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Thread started 07/09/16 4:16am

udo

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Prince abuse of medication

How certain are we that mr Prince was in pain?

How cretain are we that he was using 'stuff' out of necessity versus out of recreational perspective?

I do not need your opinions, I am looking for facts.

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Do we know when and why the supposed hip operation was performed?

What was actually done?

What did this resolve?

Did this impact his use of medication?

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Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #1 posted 07/09/16 4:27am

Genesia

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You couldn't have posted on one of the million other threads or stickies on this subject?
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Reply #2 posted 07/09/16 4:29am

kapo74

No one ever heard of Prince being in pain and/or using meds until TMZ said so.

The autopsy results described a scar on one of his hips, but no further details are known.
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Reply #3 posted 07/09/16 4:39am

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"We" are certain of very little.
"We" speculate all bloody day tho.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #4 posted 07/09/16 4:39am

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udo said:

How certain are we that mr Prince was in pain?


How cretain are we that he was using 'stuff' out of necessity versus out of recreational perspective?


I do not need your opinions, I am looking for facts.


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Do we know when and why the supposed hip operation was performed?


What was actually done?


What did this resolve?


Did this impact his use of medication?


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-- Billy Sparks who worked for Prince told Tom Joyner on his radio show that Prince had hip surgery not replacement surgery. I posted the audio of the interview on the board a few weeks ago. We also know from the medical examiner report that he had scars on both his legs. I am sure more information is going to come out if a criminal investigation actually leads to a trial.
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Reply #5 posted 07/09/16 5:21am

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who could possibly know that other than Prince, and he wasn't exactly known for being consistent. L

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Reply #6 posted 07/09/16 5:34am

sunset3121

laurarichardson said:

udo said:

How certain are we that mr Prince was in pain?

How cretain are we that he was using 'stuff' out of necessity versus out of recreational perspective?

I do not need your opinions, I am looking for facts.

.

Do we know when and why the supposed hip operation was performed?

What was actually done?

What did this resolve?

Did this impact his use of medication?

.

-- Billy Sparks who worked for Prince told Tom Joyner on his radio show that Prince had hip surgery not replacement surgery. I posted the audio of the interview on the board a few weeks ago. We also know from the medical examiner report that he had scars on both his legs. I am sure more information is going to come out if a criminal investigation actually leads to a trial.

The scars were left hip and right lower leg.

We are certain of nothing else.

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Reply #7 posted 07/09/16 5:48am

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kapo74 said:

No one ever heard of Prince being in pain and/or using meds until TMZ said so. The autopsy results described a scar on one of his hips, but no further details are known.


Nonsense.

We knew Prince had hip problems FOR YEARS.

Somebody very recently posted a thread from 2009 where we were all discussing it back then.

Here's an article from 2005 about the same thing. Eleven years ago.

"Over the years he has battered his body so much that his joints, especially his hips, are causing him a lot of discomfort."

The singer has been told that only a full hip replacement will alleviate the pain and ensure he can keep dancing.

"Over time his condition will get worse and he'll have to have the surgery," another source told the magazine. "He's causing more damage by continuing to walk."

Prince, a Jehovah's Witness, is thought to be against having surgery because the religion does not allow blood transfusions.

He has been prescribed antiinflammatory drugs to help him cope with the condition.



Nobody knew about Prince being in pain or on meds? Are you for real?





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Reply #8 posted 07/09/16 5:53am

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oh great and my thread on the commercial genius release of Diamond & Pearls was locked..cheers Luv4u!! confused

BTW..OP..wtf?!

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Reply #9 posted 07/09/16 6:26am

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NinaB said:

"We" are certain of very little.
"We" speculate all bloody day tho.

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Reply #10 posted 07/09/16 6:40am

udo

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Genesia said:

You couldn't have posted on one of the million other threads or stickies on this subject?

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Nope. this (seriously intended) discussion would have drowned even more.

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So if the scars indicate operations: what issues did they resolve and why did he still use medication (read: painkiller-type stuff)?

When approximately where the operations performed?

(then we know the issues became too much and we know after what time the issues should have been less)

Because there was no statement that the opiods were obtained in a normal (legal) manner yet, I gues that something is wrong in this area. (How hard is it to pull out the administration of adoctor, an apothecary to indicate that for mr Prince someone picked up medication X or Y at date Z?)

So does this still confirm the path from `normal` opioids to this more heavy opioid?

I mean; he has been operated on and still uses this stuff for terminal patients?!

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #11 posted 07/09/16 6:52am

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Reply #12 posted 07/09/16 6:55am

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Militant said:



kapo74 said:


No one ever heard of Prince being in pain and/or using meds until TMZ said so. The autopsy results described a scar on one of his hips, but no further details are known.



Nonsense.

We knew Prince had hip problems FOR YEARS.



Somebody very recently posted a thread from 2009 where we were all discussing it back then.

Here's an article from 2005 about the same thing. Eleven years ago.



"Over the years he has battered his body so much that his joints, especially his hips, are causing him a lot of discomfort."


The singer has been told that only a full hip replacement will alleviate the pain and ensure he can keep dancing.


"Over time his condition will get worse and he'll have to have the surgery," another source told the magazine. "He's causing more damage by continuing to walk."


Prince, a Jehovah's Witness, is thought to be against having surgery because the religion does not allow blood transfusions.


He has been prescribed antiinflammatory drugs to help him cope with the condition.





Nobody knew about Prince being in pain or on meds? Are you for real?








I saw this, but who was this quote attributed to at the time. Prince himself never uttered a word publicly about having severe pain and no one in any of his bands have said anything about Prince being in constant pain. It's hard to say what was going on with Prince because he was still performing at a high level. If he was in pain, it was hard to tell. The guy was doing three hour main shows and two hour after shows regularly and never winced once during those shows. Even if he was on pain meds, we as the viewing public would have had to notice something and we didn't.
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Reply #13 posted 07/09/16 7:12am

kapo74

Militant said:



kapo74 said:


No one ever heard of Prince being in pain and/or using meds until TMZ said so. The autopsy results described a scar on one of his hips, but no further details are known.



Nonsense.

We knew Prince had hip problems FOR YEARS.



Somebody very recently posted a thread from 2009 where we were all discussing it back then.

Here's an article from 2005 about the same thing. Eleven years ago.



"Over the years he has battered his body so much that his joints, especially his hips, are causing him a lot of discomfort."


The singer has been told that only a full hip replacement will alleviate the pain and ensure he can keep dancing.


"Over time his condition will get worse and he'll have to have the surgery," another source told the magazine. "He's causing more damage by continuing to walk."


Prince, a Jehovah's Witness, is thought to be against having surgery because the religion does not allow blood transfusions.


He has been prescribed antiinflammatory drugs to help him cope with the condition.





Nobody knew about Prince being in pain or on meds? Are you for real?








More for real than you. Your reply says nothing about Prince being in pain or him using meds. So, there... This is exactly the reason this thread was started.
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Reply #14 posted 07/09/16 7:41am

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CalhounSq said:

NinaB said:

"We" are certain of very little.
"We" speculate all bloody day tho.

lol

err headache fuse
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Reply #15 posted 07/09/16 7:45am

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It's very simple: if Prince had not been in pain, then he would not have taken the medication in the first place. Period. lock

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Reply #16 posted 07/09/16 8:21am

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purplethunder3121 said:

It's very simple: if Prince had not been in pain, then he would not have taken the medication in the first place. Period. lock

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Then how did he get to use the stuff that he died from?

As if he did not get proper education abou these medications along all these years.

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So that is why I ams asking what the hip operation(s) fixed.

Because then we can understand he used the opioids for pain or for other reasons.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #17 posted 07/09/16 8:27am

kapo74

udo said:



purplethunder3121 said:


It's very simple: if Prince had not been in pain, then he would not have taken the medication in the first place. Period. lock



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Then how did he get to use the stuff that he died from?


As if he did not get proper education abou these medications along all these years.


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So that is why I ams asking what the hip operation(s) fixed.


Because then we can understand he used the opioids for pain or for other reasons.




Agreed. We just don't know anything. Every info out there is speculation. Anyways, it doesn't matter anymore. Maybe you'd be better off dropping the subject, Udo. I get your point, but it is just asking the way to nowhere.
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Reply #18 posted 07/09/16 8:30am

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Reply #19 posted 07/09/16 8:34am

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sonshine said:

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Reply #20 posted 07/09/16 8:44am

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purplethunder3121 said:

It's very simple: if Prince had not been in pain, then he would not have taken the medication in the first place. Period. lock



That's not true. Plenty of people abuse pain meds daily and they do not suffer from any pain at all.
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Reply #21 posted 07/09/16 8:46am

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Post here on the sticky http://prince.org/msg/7/427047

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