OperatingThetan said:

XxAxX said:

sure. and next time you seek treatment for medical condition or a substance abuse issue let's make sure the public can access your treatment notes and details of your inpatient care. you won't mind, will you? TMZ obviously bribed medical personnel in moline to divulge details of prince's condition that were protected under law. that stinks like the pile it is. NO ONE should have even known his plane landed for the save shot, let alone why. ever.

[Edited 6/24/16 14:36pm]

It is was possible to OD on spite and negativity Bart would've been dead years ago.

BartVanHemelen said:

but ,but but,, the story here is no0t if they broke the law, the story was , was it true taht it was an OD on teh plane..Further that doctor d guy was the only one who said anything about fentynal he day he passed

lwr001 said:

lwr001 said:

but ,but but,, the story here is no0t if they broke the law, the story was , was it true taht it was an OD on teh plane..Further that doctor d guy was the only one who said anything about fentynal he day he passed

this thread is about TMZ and their misreporting of the *story*.

and along the way we discussed the FACT that this *story* should not have been reported, AT ALL.

TMZ clearly snooped around the hospital in moline, either during prince's stay or thereafter.

TMZ managed to invade Prince's privacy and we know this, as they published details of his illness and treatment that are protected under law.

the specific laws violated were those under HIPAA, and others

so by obvious deduction we know that TMZ did a wrong thing BY BEING IN THE GENERAL AREA OF THE HOSPITAL, SNOOPING AROUND, AND REPORTING THE STORY.

TMZ's actions were morally and legally wrong, and attacked a man who was vulnerable, seeking treatment for a private issue.

there is nothing okay about what they did. and following prince to the walgreen's and snapping his photo, ..... ultimate tacky. relentlessly hunting down a wounded animal and profiting on his suffering.

FUCK TMZ. really.

[Edited 6/25/16 14:38pm]

lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said:

but ,but but,, the story here is no0t if they broke the law, the story was , was it true taht it was an OD on teh plane..Further that doctor d guy was the only one who said anything about fentynal he day he passed

--- They were wrong about him demanding a private room and leaving after a few hours. They may be lying about a lot of other stuff and just not getting called on. The Dr.D story was from a British tabloid and they admit they make up stuff. In addition, that guy said he also sold Prince 10 other drugs for over 20 years do you believe he worked at his pace while being high for 20 years?

Exactly. And the almighty TMZ did NOT say a damn thing about fentanyl until AFTER the ME report. All they said was opiates/percocet.

TMZ has been wrong on a number of stories in the past not just Prince stories.

I want to know where reinfeld is and what happened to his posts?

TMZ wasl eading the way with a drug addicted Prince death but no information about hip injuries/surgeries. I wonder why?

Another thing TMZ knew something was wrong with Prince prior to the plane landing because how would they know or get tipped off that he was landing in Moline,Illiniois? Chicago or Atlanta I could see but Moline?

It's sad that jouralism ethics has been thrown out the window in the age of instant information.

BartVanHemelen said:

XxAxX said:

honestly, i thnk the story might have ended differently if prince hadn't been dedicated to putting on a show of good health in his last few days.

when he said 'wait a few days before you waste any prayers', i think that was his way of saying 'i OD'd, youre going to read about it soon, and i don't deserve your prayers'.

which to me means that he was preoccupied about being in the media spotlight, and it affected what he chose to do following the emergency plane landing.

maybe if prince had lived in a world where paparazzi stalkers were legally forbidden and punishable by law, he would have quietly found the help he needed sooner. i don't know.

but i believe he was aware that paparazzi were stalking him, during his first recovery and even as he was dying. this pisses me off. big time.

someone needs to turn it around on these paparazzholes and make each of their personal lives a living hell just to demonstrate the point.

are you coming out of the hospital crying because you've been diagnosed with a nasty cancer? could you turn your face this way so our photog can get the tear tracks on your face? thanks.

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Oh please, how much was P featured on TMZ before all this? Don't pretend it's their fault he was in denial -- that was his default way of handling bad shit.

Why are you even posting?

Another thing about the TMZ story...

The story specificaly said 'Prince's team' made the decision, not necesarily Prince himself. I remember that because c'mon, Prince had no 'team' in the sense most big celebs do, so I was wondering who they were referencing as 'Prince's team'. The only people on the plane were Prince, Kirk and Judith, right? So that leads me to wonder if Funky Baldhead made the 'no private room, fux this' call, which if you think about it might make a lot of sense if you are the security guy in that situation. Especially if he knew Prince was on illegal opiates and they had a private stash of them mugs hidden up at Paisley. 'Get him back to Minneapolis, let our Dr. Feelgood handle things on the downlow.' Just speculation of course...

Was Judith actually seen at the Atlanta shows? Anyone there in person and saw her or has seen any pics of her there at the shows?

funksterr said:

Another thing about the TMZ story...

The story specificaly said 'Prince's team' made the decision, not necesarily Prince himself. I remember that because c'mon, Prince had no 'team' in the sense most big celebs do, so I was wondering who they were referencing as 'Prince's team'. The only people on the plane were Prince, Kirk and Judith, right? So that leads me to wonder if Funky Baldhead made the 'no private room, fux this' call, which if you think about it might make a lot of sense if you are the security guy in that situation. Especially if he knew Prince was on illegal opiates and they had a private stash of them mugs hidden up at Paisley. 'Get him back to Minneapolis, let our Dr. Feelgood handle things on the downlow.' Just speculation of course...

But Prince didn't actually leave the hospital for lack of private room. Prince stayed over night.

OperatingThetan said:

XxAxX said:

sure. and next time you seek treatment for medical condition or a substance abuse issue let's make sure the public can access your treatment notes and details of your inpatient care. you won't mind, will you? TMZ obviously bribed medical personnel in moline to divulge details of prince's condition that were protected under law. that stinks like the pile it is. NO ONE should have even known his plane landed for the save shot, let alone why. ever.

[Edited 6/24/16 14:36pm]

If it was possible to OD on spite and negativity Bart would've been dead years ago. [Edited 6/25/16 8:31am]

<- Bart

[Edited 6/26/16 8:23am]

if you really think thjat being revived at 3Am and being back in the air by 1030Am the same day was not against medical advice then you are delusional....So, i woudl say he was probably still in ER or ICU and maybe hos room request was denied...Youa ll will do anything to not put Prince at fault for his own demise

Further, in regard to privacy, this is what happens when you are a Superstar and your plane makes an emergency decent from 45000 feet in 17 min with the report of an unresponsive male on board...BTW, ATC voice traffic between cockpit and controllers are free at all times for all to hear,,

TMZ got the main facts right IMO. Prince should have been dead that morning. I don't care if they stayed or there was no private room, his next destination should have been some type of hospital in Minnesota UNLESS there was an underlying illness for which there was no hope of recovery. I don't care how private he was and how much everyone's paycheck depended upon him. If he wasn't terminally ill, someone should have intervened that Friday. The addict should NOT be in control.

I can't think of any hospitals that have anything other than private rooms. Do hospitals still have semi private or ward rooms? I thought those went away a very long time ago. At least where I live there are only private rooms....so I'm not buying that Prince said that. And if by some slim chance it is true (which I don't believe)...well, I couldn't blame him. I wouldn't have stayed either if I couldn't have a private room.

does it really matter why he left or that he left ; whatever the reason , the price to ne paid for said decision was tooo much,,his ego got in the way,

well, imo it's still a shame TMZ got so many of the details wrong. like, the TRUE reason that prince stopped over in moline that night on the way home from his concert was not for medical treatment at ALL, but rather because it was after the moline, IL midnight launch of the brand spanking new dairy queen ice cream flavor "Captain Chocolate Crunch".

now whether or not the conspiracy theorists are correct insofar as prince WAS actually irradiated in dairy queen's special (secret, and somewhat controversial) "Vitamin Chamber" in the back of the store?

well, yeah. my guess is, he likely DID undergo the youth-extending radiation therapy offered to only a few select DQ customers (The Gold Level, which by the way, is what that entire album is about). this explains why he had been rocking a 'fro in recent months, due to the rapid hair growth which accompanies said treatments.

a lot of people have commented on prince's youthful good looks, even up to his alleged 'passing'. i think if more people went to DQ more often and figured out how to decode the secret menu, they would be able to understand exactly where prince has been coming from for so long.

now, let's take this to the presses, shall we???

[Edited 6/26/16 16:21pm]

you realize that you're debating a difference of a few hours, right? The TMZ story said they wanted to keep him 24 hours and he instead left over the private room issue.

According to Judith Hill, the ambulance left to take him to the hospital at 1:35am and his flight left at 10:57 am. You have to add in travel time, teh time it takes to check out of the hospital, the time it takes to file a flight plan and actually be cleared for take off. That's really not enough time at a hospital to be anywhere other than the emergency room.

I'm not crazy about some of the reporting these tabliod sites do, but it seems to be jumping to conclusions to assume they were totally wrong here. They clearly broke the drug OD being the reason for the landing. I remember that headline hit me as hard as the news that he died. And it's pretty reasonable to think the doctors at any hospital would want to admit a drug overdose patient for 24 hours, something that clearly did not happen.

alandail said:

you realize that you're debating a difference of a few hours, right? The TMZ story said they wanted to keep him 24 hours and he instead left over the private room issue.

According to Judith Hill, the ambulance left to take him to the hospital at 1:35am and his flight left at 10:57 am. You have to add in travel time, teh time it takes to check out of the hospital, the time it takes to file a flight plan and actually be cleared for take off. That's really not enough time at a hospital to be anywhere other than the emergency room.

I'm not crazy about some of the reporting these tabliod sites do, but it seems to be jumping to conclusions to assume they were totally wrong here. They clearly broke the drug OD being the reason for the landing. I remember that headline hit me as hard as the news that he died. And it's pretty reasonable to think the doctors at any hospital would want to admit a drug overdose patient for 24 hours, something that clearly did not happen.

When did the OP or anybody else say that TMZ were totally wrong?

Are we reaing the same thread titled, "TMZ was wrong about ONE aspect of the Moline story".

People are caping for TMZ as if they are personally offended or have some personal investment in protecting their reputation. The ferocity and vemon of the TMZ defenders is very odd.

The fact remains that there was absolutely NO benefit to anyone just because TMZ had some of the facts a few days earlier than other media.

It didnt affect the outcome one damned bit so at the end of the day TMZ's "scoop" is meaningless.

babynoz said:

alandail said:

you realize that you're debating a difference of a few hours, right? The TMZ story said they wanted to keep him 24 hours and he instead left over the private room issue.

According to Judith Hill, the ambulance left to take him to the hospital at 1:35am and his flight left at 10:57 am. You have to add in travel time, teh time it takes to check out of the hospital, the time it takes to file a flight plan and actually be cleared for take off. That's really not enough time at a hospital to be anywhere other than the emergency room.

I'm not crazy about some of the reporting these tabliod sites do, but it seems to be jumping to conclusions to assume they were totally wrong here. They clearly broke the drug OD being the reason for the landing. I remember that headline hit me as hard as the news that he died. And it's pretty reasonable to think the doctors at any hospital would want to admit a drug overdose patient for 24 hours, something that clearly did not happen.

When did the OP or anybody else say that TMZ were totally wrong?

Are we reaing the same thread titled, "TMZ was wrong about ONE aspect of the Moline story".

The number of hours isn't the important part, the important part is that he left the hospital when they wanted him to stay because he couldn't get a private room. All Judith Hill said is he left the hospital in the morning and his flgiht left at 10:57 am. It doesn't even say what time he got to the hospital, what time he was first seen by a doctor, or what time he decided to leave. I do know it takes time to travel there, time to get processed once you get there, time to get processed when you leave, time to travel back to the airport.

They sure were right about a lot to be quibbling over the reason their source gave for leaving.

alandail said:

babynoz said:

When did the OP or anybody else say that TMZ were totally wrong?

Are we reaing the same thread titled, "TMZ was wrong about ONE aspect of the Moline story".

The number of hours isn't the important part, the important part is that he left the hospital when they wanted him to stay because he couldn't get a private room. All Judith Hill said is he left the hospital in the morning and his flgiht left at 10:57 am. It doesn't even say what time he got to the hospital, what time he was first seen by a doctor, or what time he decided to leave. I do know it takes time to travel there, time to get processed once you get there, time to get processed when you leave, time to travel back to the airport.

That wasn't my question. You said people were assuming they were totally wrong when no one said any such thing.

All the OP said is they were wrong about ONE aspect of the story.

babynoz said:

Askani said:

They sure were right about a lot to be quibbling over the reason their source gave for leaving.

That isn't the point either. My point is that people seem to care more about who is "right" than they actually give a crap about Prince.

Again, I want somebody to explain to me exactly why it is sooo important which media outlet got the scoop "first", since it didn't change the outcome one damn bit?


Are people that desperate for bragging rights?

ZombieKitten said:

babynoz said:

People are caping for TMZ as if they are personally offended or have some personal investment in protecting their reputation. The ferocity and vemon of the TMZ defenders is very odd.

The fact remains that there was absolutely NO benefit to anyone just because TMZ had some of the facts a few days earlier than other media.

It didnt affect the outcome one damned bit so at the end of the day TMZ's "scoop" is meaningless.

He's still dead either way

Thank you! Somebody gets it.

I am appalled that people seem to want bragging rights or something just because they had info a day or two before other media.

[Edited 6/26/16 16:47pm]

babynoz said:

Askani said:

They sure were right about a lot to be quibbling over the reason their source gave for leaving.

That isn't the point either. My point is that people seem to care more about who is "right" than they actually give a crap about Prince.

Again, I want somebody to explain to me exactly why it is sooo important which media outlet got the scoop "first", since it didn't change the outcome one damn bit?


Are people that desperate for bragging rights?

My point is that there are a lot of people aiming their ire at TMZ because they broke so many aspects of this story accurately.

Because Prince died.

Which is pointless, because they have actually been pretty spot-on in their reporting of his death and the facts surrounding it.

Why so angry at TMZ? They didn't kill him.