That's a great comparison, LBrent! Thank you...

Uhope said:

Listen to his music....

One of the things he said in Act of God

We are so tired

We'ree through with it

There never was no Hell or Boogeyman either!

If you see him look..

He's in your mirror

Call it an act of god!

It was one of the most powerful spiritual statements he made. Although he was a JW...I believe he still had common sense and very spirituality like thoughts...in a sense I feel he was mostly spiritual than religious. I think he believed in God and Jehovah because of Earth like belonging, but in his real mind, he always followed his spirit.

paisleypark4 said:

LBrent said:

Bunsterdk said:

LBrent said:

Wow.

So, the idea is to ask a question, know that the answer is based on P's apparent free choice to believe in biblical doctrines as taught by JWs, hate the fact that P apparently chose to freely believe in biblical doctrines as taught by JWs, ignore the answer to the original question as provided by a JW, ignore the subsequent offer to investigate the answer to the question at the source of the organization that P apparently freely chose to get his personal understanding of the biblical doctrines as taught by JWs from simply because it's not YOUR choice to believe what JWs believe?

Um. Ok.

So, going by that rule of thumb, if the topic was "What was Prince's favorite ice cream?" And someone said pistachio, but because you hate pistachio ice cream due to your parents forcing you to eat it and some coworker's kid dying from an allergic reaction to pistachio ice cream you refuse to accept that Prince, in fact, adored pistachio ice cream so much that he wrote a song about it. Huh.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but how odd to be that invested in other's freely chosen beliefs...Interesting.

Fade much? Just sayin. Lol

Yup, you nailed it, LBrent, thanks!

trc1 said:

The truth according to P is God. "The Cross". " Colonized Mind". For those that find the Bible hard to read - Proverbs is a start. Yes. I do read/study daily. Why the violence? The apple opened eyes. Separation began journey to redemption. Now redeemed. Read what you can. P called it knowledge. Just saying.

Bunsterdk said:

paisleypark4 said:

Listen to his music....

One of the things he said in Act of God

We are so tired

We'ree through with it

There never was no Hell or Boogeyman either!

If you see him look..

He's in your mirror

Call it an act of god!

It was one of the most powerful spiritual statements he made. Although he was a JW...I believe he still had common sense and very spirituality like thoughts...in a sense I feel he was mostly spiritual than religious. I think he believed in God and Jehovah because of Earth like belonging, but in his real mind, he always followed his spirit.

Actually, as a JW he didn't believe in Hell. The devil, yes, definitely. I think he was talking about the need for humans to take responsibility for what happens because of their actions instead of blaming it on God. Someone said he had been trying to take the cd back because he had "gone off" on one of the tracks. I've suspected it was Act of God and maybe you found it here. He would have believed in the devil, and I'm thinking he may have thought of something else when recording this and realised it would be heard as if he said the devil (bogeyman) doesn't exist. Dunno, just a thought.

I can respect that too

Mumio said:

trc1 said:

The truth according to P is God. "The Cross". " Colonized Mind". For those that find the Bible hard to read - Proverbs is a start. Yes. I do read/study daily. Why the violence? The apple opened eyes. Separation began journey to redemption. Now redeemed. Read what you can. P called it knowledge. Just saying.

I'd like to think that in recent years, Prince broadened his spiritual views beyond the confines of denominational religion... Not abandoning his faith, but expanding it...if you get my drift.

ksgemini63 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Mumio said:

I'd like to think that in recent years, Prince broadened his spiritual views beyond the confines of denominational religion... Not abandoning his faith, but expanding it...if you get my drift.

He believed in the Creator in whatever form the Creator chose to take. That's my take anyway....

mimi1956 said:

sonshine said:

morningsong said: I wonder specifically what version or edition of the bible he read? I've tried reading the Bible many times in the past but I always give up soon after. I've never read anything that was more confusing in my life. I don't consider myself stupid but most of it is quite difficult to follow/understand. And there are so many different interpretations of it who is to know which is the most "correct"??

My problem with trying to read it is it is also quite violent

A large chunk of it is talking about the experiences of a people. So where you read 'violent' it is/was/is a part of life. If we read about the Roman Empire, there was violence. If we read about the Japanese history there was violence, if we read about Navajo/Dine history there was violence etc

There are many 'books' that focus on spiritual truths and wisdom and others dealing with 'their history' and no one can avoid violence in this life/world. It doesn't take away from any spirituality.

the Truth according to Prince can be slippery

Prince mixed up a lot of beliefs in his JW connections including Egyptology and his own equations.
When you read about how he talked about his relationship/divorcing of Mayte it definately reads like the Matrix, that he always referenced.

Prince questioned a lot of stuff. Sometimes it seemed like too much

Prince said cool things like in 1985 'We had to do a lot of bike riding nude to stir things up'
Now if they actually did or it was a symbolism, it worked, I understand it without needing to know the truth of that.

In 2009/10 when refered to as a black artist. He reaches out and puts his arm next to the reporter who noted she was actually darker than he was and says 'Am I?'
What Prince actually believes inside vs outside concerning race, when he does something like this I don't need to know, because I like he can do/say something to make people question what the 'truth' is.

and then there are other places where he seems extremely slippery.

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

the Truth according to Prince can be slippery

Prince mixed up a lot of beliefs in his JW connections including Egyptology and his own equations.
When you read about how he talked about his relationship/divorcing of Mayte it definately reads like the Matrix, that he always referenced.

Prince questioned a lot of stuff. Sometimes it seemed like too much

Prince said cool things like in 1985 'We had to do a lot of bike riding nude to stir things up'
Now if they actually did or it was a symbolism, it worked, I understand it without needing to know the truth of that.

In 2009/10 when refered to as a black artist. He reaches out and puts his arm next to the reporter who noted she was actually darker than he was and says 'Am I?'
What Prince actually believes inside vs outside concerning race, when he does something like this I don't need to know, because I like he can do/say something to make people question what the 'truth' is.

and then there are other places where he seems extremely slippery.

Agree with you.

Mumio said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I'd like to think that in recent years, Prince broadened his spiritual views beyond the confines of denominational religion... Not abandoning his faith, but expanding it...if you get my drift.

He believed in the Creator in whatever form the Creator chose to take. That's my take anyway....

I'll post the quote, but in a 1998/99 interview, he said 'in a past life he was a creator'

And your post caused me to remember he also believes in reincarnation. So another level of Prince's truth.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Mumio said:

He believed in the Creator in whatever form the Creator chose to take. That's my take anyway....

I'll post the quote, but in a 1998/99 interview, he said 'in a past life he was a creator'

And your post caused me to remember he also believes in reincarnation. So another level of Prince's truth.

Interesting....thanks for the info!

OldFriends4Sale said:

LBrent said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I'll post the quote, but in a 1998/99 interview, he said 'in a past life he was a creator'

And your post caused me to remember he also believes in reincarnation. So another level of Prince's truth.

Agreed. But I think there are people, fans and nonfans, who became disenchanted and bitter before at the end they suddenly realized that for all that he challenged people to change and be aware and he tried to find his own truth, he was still just an imperfect human. He was searching and trying to "get it right" and juggle all the balls and sometimes he dropped them. But at least was open to finding whatever he felt compelled to search for. He wasn't perfect by a long shot, but at least he tried. And was damned sexy and entertaining as he did it, too. [Edited 7/14/16 9:13am]

Yes, his journey was interesting, sometimes and some period I just pulled back from reading stuff because I just wasn't getting it. So in order not to judge him, I became hands off. But all in all it was interesting.

I still love going Uptown to sit on a bench in Paisley Park, watch the people bike riding nude to Erotic City on Alphabet St

OldFriends4Sale said:

LBrent said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes, his journey was interesting, sometimes and some period I just pulled back from reading stuff because I just wasn't getting it. So in order not to judge him, I became hands off. But all in all it was interesting.

I still love going Uptown to sit on a bench in Paisley Park, watch the people bike riding nude to Erotic City on Alphabet St

Chiiiiile...Have you not seen me post about being frustrated and wanting to bop upside the back of his big ol' head??? Honey, please. Sometimes, I just can't with P.

lol

ksgemini63 said:

ksgemini63 said:

For an alternative view of hell, http://time.com/3207274/5...p+Stories)

Based on scholarship by Anabaptist. Many Biblical scholars have a more expansive view of hell, believing it to be a condition of the mind here in our earthly lives which result from cutting ourselves off from the spirit. A condition which can be overcome at any moment.

[Edited 7/15/16 4:02am]

allmusicfan123 said:

For an alternative view of hell, http://time.com/3207274/5...p+Stories)

Based on scholarship by Anabaptist. Many Biblical scholars have a more expansive view of hell, believing it to be a condition of the mind here in our earthly lives which result from cutting ourselves off from the spirit. A condition which can be overcome at any moment.

Putting down another's faith by calling it false is NOT cool imo. It's disrespectful. Each person needs to decide for him/herself.