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Thread started 06/23/16 11:41am

tahirih

The Black Album‏

From Acoustic Sounds

"I regret to inform you that AWAR 45793 - Prince/ The Black Album has been canceled for release by the label and is no longer available for purchase. This title has been removed from your order"

Darn it! I was so looking forward to the reissue. This was a Sept 20th release date.

I wonder what happend?

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Reply #1 posted 06/23/16 11:46am

suomynona

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See under contacts at http://press.wbr.com/prince

You could contact Yvette and ask why.

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Reply #2 posted 06/23/16 11:48am

electrodyne

This is a huge disappointment!

My LP copy was stolen back in 2011. Had been wanting to replace it for about 18 months or so, and now the prices have skyrocketed since Prince's passing.

Really hope there's just a delay and Warner Bros. comes around with this.
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Reply #3 posted 06/23/16 11:56am

TrivialPursuit

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I sorta feel this is temporary. The future holds a lot of possibilities. I don't think this is permanent.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #4 posted 06/23/16 12:01pm

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tahirih said:

From Acoustic Sounds


"I regret to inform you that AWAR 45793 - Prince/ The Black Album has been canceled for release by the label and is no longer available for purchase. This title has been removed from your order"


Darn it! I was so looking forward to the reissue. This was a Sept 20th release date.


I wonder what happend?




This is twice now the poor Black Album gets shelved. bawl bawl
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Reply #5 posted 06/23/16 12:11pm

suomynona

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TrivialPursuit said:

I sorta feel this is temporary. The future holds a lot of possibilities. I don't think this is permanent.


yeahthat Might be rights issues that need to be sorted out with the Bremer Trust, or whoever's in charge at this point. (Don't really care who it is anymore.) Can't really use horseshit like "it had cusswords and Taffy didn't like cursewords, so no on The Black Album. They'd have to pull almost everything pre-2000. They aren't going to do that. Or maybe they are. One thing we have all learned over the past few decades -- good luck on anything being predictable in Prince-land.

Do they want to continue to see The Black Album selling on ebay for hundreds of dollars -- getting none of that money -- or do they want to cash in?

Also -- I believe this release date was set prior to his passing, so he must have agreed to it's re-release. Hopefully it was a remaster. Perhaps that's why it was pulled. Rumors of Prince deleting masters with cursewords. That would have been so stupid of him, but whatever. Many of us have The Black Album already. Some of us -- many copies razz Still, I would have bought a remaster. One of my favorite records -- if not my favorite -- by him. 1999 at #1, tBA at #2.

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Reply #6 posted 06/23/16 12:15pm

NorthC

It's the Black Album, whaddaya expect?! confused It's got a reputation to uphold, ya know...
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Reply #7 posted 06/23/16 12:27pm

bobgeorge77

Thanks for posting this...I thought it was an Amazon issue....I was soooo looking forward to getting a copy on vinyl... guess I have to be patient.... smile

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Reply #8 posted 06/23/16 1:10pm

rightbluecheek

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NorthC said:

It's the Black Album, whaddaya expect?! confused It's got a reputation to uphold, ya know...

Lol, that was funny wink
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Reply #9 posted 06/23/16 2:09pm

dalboy2

Is it because a original copy of the Black album sold for a shocking $15,000. So not releasing it keeps it rare to a point, besides the 1994 versions out there.


http://www.vibe.com/2016/...for-15000/

Got Them Coins: Someone Purchased A Rare Prince Record For $15,000

Prince-Rare-Record-Black-Album
It’s pretty possible to get anything you want in the world. Some finds are pure luck like an original copy of the Declaration of Independence for $2 and others are done in a larger way, like the lucky S.O.B who bought a rare Prince album for $15,000.

Discogs, a popular hub for vinyl enthusiasts, made the announcement Friday (June 10) on their blog. The late David Bowie’s second album held the record for the highest purchase on the site for $6,826. On April 22, just two days after Prince’s passing, a fan scooped up a double 12″ copy of the shelved ’87 project, The Black Album.

Also known as The Funk Bible, the album featured songs like “Le Grind,” and “2 Nigs United 4 West Compton.” A week before it’s release, the singer decided to shelve it and 500,000 copies of the album were destroyed, Chart Attacker reports. The album wasn’t officially released until 1994 when the singer was under his contract with Warner Brothers.

Fans are able to listen to snippets on YouTube, but there’s nothing like the sweet sounds of vinyl.

Since it’s pretty much impossible to hear The Black Album on wax (unless ur a DJ who held on to your copy in the 80’s) you can get a Tidal subscription and jam out here.

I guess there’s no harm in pretending you paid a pretty penny to jam to The Purple One.
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Reply #10 posted 06/23/16 4:06pm

suomynona

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Nope. One has nothing to do with the other. Otherwise, they would've never put it out in 1994.

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Reply #11 posted 06/23/16 7:23pm

sonshine

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TrivialPursuit said:

I sorta feel this is temporary. The future holds a lot of possibilities. I don't think this is permanent.


I hope you are right. This is the only one left to find to complete my "must have" wish list.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #12 posted 06/24/16 6:36am

rob1965

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electrodyne said:

This is a huge disappointment!

My LP copy was stolen back in 2011. Had been wanting to replace it for about 18 months or so, and now the prices have skyrocketed since Prince's passing.

Really hope there's just a delay and Warner Bros. comes around with this.


Yep, that's really annoying when prices go up like that. I saw One Nite Alone offered for a thousand euros.

But I hope that a little patience will help to purchase hard-to-gets for a cheaper price in a few months when things have died down a bit.
'Liberate My Mind'
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Reply #13 posted 06/25/16 10:09am

MusicFan20Ten

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i hope this isnt temporary, because if it is reissued, it will lose its rarity and the mass audience will be able to hear it. only a limited number of people have tidal and will actually listen to it, and only hardcore prince fans will have physical copies or digital. this is an important album in prince's history to me, and one he intended to never release. an original went for $15,000!!! as soon as i saw there would be a reissue, i was so pissed becuase it would lose its rarity and meaning. personally, i think it should be the only prince album not to be re-released... in my opinion, but i hope others see why im saying this. no hate, appreciate?

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Reply #14 posted 06/25/16 10:43am

suomynona

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MusicFan20Ten said:

i hope this isnt temporary, because if it is reissued, it will lose its rarity and the mass audience will be able to hear it. only a limited number of people have tidal and will actually listen to it, and only hardcore prince fans will have physical copies or digital. this is an important album in prince's history to me, and one he intended to never release. an original went for $15,000!!! as soon as i saw there would be a reissue, i was so pissed becuase it would lose its rarity and meaning. personally, i think it should be the only prince album not to be re-released... in my opinion, but i hope others see why im saying this. no hate, appreciate?


But it was issued in 1994, for a limited time -- and it didn't the rarity/price of the 1987 originals -- at all.

Releasing a record changes nothing about the rarity and prices of the circulating 1987 copies.

It's not like the CD that sold for $15K will only be worth $10 the next day. (Same with the 1987 promo vinyl.) That's not how it works with collectors. Not of just Prince, but any artist.

Just because The Black Album would be released again in 2016 -- doesn't mean folks wouldn't spend crazy amounts to have the white, grey and peach marbled promo vinyl from 1994. And they'd have to pay the same prices -- if not more now because he's no longer with us -- for anything from 1987.

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Reply #15 posted 06/25/16 10:44am

suomynona

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dalboy2 said:

Is it because a original copy of the Black album sold for a shocking $15,000. So not releasing it keeps it rare to a point, besides the 1994 versions out there.


Not true. At all. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

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Reply #16 posted 06/25/16 1:08pm

tish9311

I found my copy of the black Album last night!!! I am a happy girl!!!!!

Beautiful, Loved and Blessed

Thank You Prince
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Reply #17 posted 06/25/16 1:52pm

KingSausage

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A) Can we edit the thread title so it's at least minimally descriptive?

B) This blows. I want The Black Album on vinyl.
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Reply #18 posted 06/25/16 1:57pm

Guitarhero

sad Was looking forward to a vinyl version.

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Reply #19 posted 06/25/16 8:50pm

ksgemini63

Guitarhero said:

sad Was looking forward to a vinyl version.


Prince absolutely did not want this out. I will look for the quote but even if I had access to vinyl I knew this was not going to happen. I will bet $ 94 is the last release as Prince wanted to forget this.
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Reply #20 posted 06/26/16 1:08pm

rob1965

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suomynona said:



MusicFan20Ten said:


i hope this isnt temporary, because if it is reissued, it will lose its rarity and the mass audience will be able to hear it. only a limited number of people have tidal and will actually listen to it, and only hardcore prince fans will have physical copies or digital. this is an important album in prince's history to me, and one he intended to never release. an original went for $15,000!!! as soon as i saw there would be a reissue, i was so pissed becuase it would lose its rarity and meaning. personally, i think it should be the only prince album not to be re-released... in my opinion, but i hope others see why im saying this. no hate, appreciate?




But it was issued in 1994, for a limited time -- and it didn't the rarity/price of the 1987 originals -- at all.

Releasing a record changes nothing about the rarity and prices of the circulating 1987 copies.

It's not like the CD that sold for $15K will only be worth $10 the next day. (Same with the 1987 promo vinyl.) That's not how it works with collectors. Not of just Prince, but any artist.

Just because The Black Album would be released again in 2016 -- doesn't mean folks wouldn't spend crazy amounts to have the white, grey and peach marbled promo vinyl from 1994. And they'd have to pay the same prices -- if not more now because he's no longer with us -- for anything from 1987.



Actually, the only true Black Album version is the vinyl from 1987.
98% of what is offered on sites like eBay is worthless copies, regardless of the price they ask. So I think that you're right that a reissue won't have any effect on the rarity of the original from 1987.
For the purists among us even the limited reissue of the 1994 cd is of no importance. They will only settle for the original 1987 vinyls and keep on paying ridiculous prices (and therefore screwing up the market for others, thank you very much). No 2016 reissue will change that.
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Reply #21 posted 06/26/16 1:21pm

darkroman

Why didn't everone buy it in 1994!

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It was everywhere, you could have even bought two!

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Reply #22 posted 06/26/16 1:28pm

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darkroman said:

Why didn't everone buy it in 1994!

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It was everywhere, you could have even bought two!

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wink


Absolutely. I remember back in '94 just thumbing through the CD racks at the local store and seeing it there. No advertising about it. It wasn't even on a new release display. Just buried in the endless CD bins. Bizarre for such a fabled release. eek

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Reply #23 posted 06/26/16 1:37pm

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injuredpinky said:

darkroman said:

Why didn't everone buy it in 1994!

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It was everywhere, you could have even bought two!

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wink


Absolutely. I remember back in '94 just thumbing through the CD racks at the local store and seeing it there. No advertising about it. It wasn't even on a new release display. Just buried in the endless CD bins. Bizarre for such a fabled release. eek

It was advertised and promoted. Yes it wasn't a major release, it was one step closer to getting out of his contract for him at the time, so he wasn't going to promote it - but there was promotion done, even if it was scant.

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As for why didn't everyone buy it in 1994, well we have fans here who weren't even born then, so...

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Reply #24 posted 06/26/16 3:12pm

suomynona

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NouveauDance said:

injuredpinky said:


Absolutely. I remember back in '94 just thumbing through the CD racks at the local store and seeing it there. No advertising about it. It wasn't even on a new release display. Just buried in the endless CD bins. Bizarre for such a fabled release. eek

It was advertised and promoted. Yes it wasn't a major release, it was one step closer to getting out of his contract for him at the time, so he wasn't going to promote it - but there was promotion done, even if it was scant.

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As for why didn't everyone buy it in 1994, well we have fans here who weren't even born then, so...


True. I have the framed poster about 20 feet from me on the wall.

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Reply #25 posted 06/26/16 3:23pm

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The CD was easy to get in '94, but in the U.S., the vinyl was import only. I never saw it in a store.

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Reply #26 posted 06/26/16 4:12pm

injuredpinky

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suomynona said:

NouveauDance said:

It was advertised and promoted. Yes it wasn't a major release, it was one step closer to getting out of his contract for him at the time, so he wasn't going to promote it - but there was promotion done, even if it was scant.

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As for why didn't everyone buy it in 1994, well we have fans here who weren't even born then, so...


True. I have the framed poster about 20 feet from me on the wall.


I'm glad to hear there was some advertising. At Rock Records in downtown Chicago (which was a pretty big store back in the day, but now long gone) there was no promo for it at all. I used to stop in there every "new release Tuesday". I'd always thumb through the Prince section as well, and that was how I found it. I can even recall a period when they had the 1-800-NewFunk CDs on the new release wall displays. Don't ever recall seeing anything for TBA though.


The poster sounds cool. Would you be willing to post a pic of it?

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