I'm all ready to jump into a time machine! "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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That word sucks. admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. | |
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yes it does, since it implies acceptance. reality is mutable at the quantum level so in the world of fantasy alternate potential reality anything is possible. so, i'll take the quantum fantasy thing over closure and accepting a hole in my life where prince used to live. is that so wrong? by the way, you got any extension cords i can borrow?? | |
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It doesn't exist. It's just a very popular word that in the end is meaningless...because whatever relevant meaning that infused it's creation has been lost in it's over-use. As if it is now a mechanical step in a how-to-book to fix a piece of machinery... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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XxAxX said:
he gave a LOT. not just a constant stream of music in one form or another, but allowing us fans in to dance parties and concerts at PP After Dark. there were snacks, bottled water, and every effort made for fans' comfort. how many superstars do that? i've been realizing that for years now my favorite party destination has always been paisley park. and, it was okay to be a weird old lady dancing around in the back. i went with friends occasionally and also met people there but it was okay to be alone too. how many places are safe like that, with someone like PRINCE walking around, sparking things up? his generosity was incredible. oh. crap. here i go again Yes he did. I wish I could have experienced PP like that, But it wasn't meant to be. It was fun reading about others' experience though. | |
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XxAxX said:
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If I knew how..."Mr. Nelson" would be a reality. [Edited 6/19/16 20:42pm] | |
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Been doing a little of constructing of my own since I've been on more stable ground. [Edited 6/19/16 22:34pm] | |
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I don't think I will ever have closure, not in the way you state, but then I don't like to think of words like death, passing, and even though I am recent with posting (correction - I am RETURNED after being at sea for years followed by tragedies of my own - glad I found my way back to ORG), you'll notice I will always say something like The man IS beautiful, The man IS a genius, versus the past tense . I don't know - maybe that's denial? But I like to think that it's more that I'm accepting that he's not gone, he will never be completely gone, he's as he stated, onto the next chapter/plane of existence/afterworld, or just because I know he will be a part of me forever.
That being said, I also have gone to two fan events so far with another two coming up in June and July, I highly recommend it. There really IS something about being sorrounded by fellow Prince Friends who understand your feelings.
from Vancouver. Dance where y'are, just groove y'all.
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YES. I very much feel this way. Ever day I wish I would wake up and this would all dissolve into the fog of a distant dream. Even though I am trying to (as stated in my previous reply here) accept that he's still with us, just in another plane/afterworld etc), I still find myself brought to tears multiple times through the week. I do find sollace here at Org with all of you though. We'll get through this together! Dance where y'are, just groove y'all.
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You should check events in your area, if it's anything like Vancouver, there will still be events to attend Dance where y'are, just groove y'all.
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Aww hun, I know it's a difficult time It's definitely more upsetting than I ever imagined something like this to be. Even in comparison to MJ - my feelings of grief are infinitely heavier than the ache I felt when he left us too.
I am right there with you hun. I found myself uncharacteristically getting into youtube squabbles, defending Prince at any opportunity and then just had to stop all together because it was allowing negative/angry feelings to fester and I don't think that would be what Prince would want from any of us (even if that does poke your comment about thinking we know what he would want, which is true - how could we *really* but I suspect we like to think we know him a little, and being the type of person we know him to be, I feel like that's pretty valid).
I hope each day gets just a bit easier for you.
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All of this, is so true for me as well. Prince remains in my life every day just as you mentioned. I find I listen to each word or the inflictions in his voice more intently. I watch performances with a mixture of the initial awe of watching a genius in action, and heartache. But yes it can be easy to temporarily forget for a moment until reality jumps up and kicks me in the heart all over again
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I feel like that too, he still was a young man (in comparison). But I have heard that hip replacement pain can be unbearable. It's heartbreaking to think how many times he put on a happy/life carries on as usual expression to mask what he was really dealing with. That's hard for me to make peace with. And that he was alone. I will never ever accept that particular piece of reality. Dance where y'are, just groove y'all.
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I don't have closure either. I tell myself that his passing is just like taking a long break until we meet again. Then the party will truly continue. Its not goodbye but see you later. Like Erykah Badu says "I guess I'll see you next lifetime". We have to provide outr own closure. "Where words fail, music speaks" | |
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none at all...pain & sense of loss seems to be getting worse. | |
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purplethunder3121 said: "Closure" is an overused pop psychology phrase. There is no such thing. People deal with death in the best way they can and continue on. True... to an extent. I know from my own experience that acceptance and processing of a loss is much more difficult when it is sudden or unexpected. There is even a thing called complex or complicated grief. When you can't get answers or satisfactory answers or a chance to say goodbye, the grief process can become interrupted or stalled. Likewise if you are deeply angry or upset at some aspect around the passing, the grief itself can be even more difficult and lasting. So I think the fact that many posters not just on this thread but on the org in general are expressing trouble accepting or processing the loss is being magnified by the lack of information around his passing. In that respect alone I think it would be a great kindness if once the investigations are over, someone would answer the questions people have here, as it would help with people's healing and grief. | |
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Thank U so much for your words. They resonate with me and light up hope. I will cherish them anytime I feel lost. Stef. | |
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No closure I dont think I will ever get over it. I like to imagine he is alive thru this music. "A strong spirit transcends rules." - Prince | |
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What does "closure" even mean? That I'm not supposed to feel sad anymore? Or that all my questions have been answered? We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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LOL Exactly! I hate that word, too. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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LOL Exactly! I hate that word, too. Dammit, Genesia! I just spit my soda everywhere! Woo that lightened my heart. | |
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Genesia for President | |
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I lost my mother a year and a half ago unexpectedly 2 days after Christmas. The doctors only speculate what caused her death was a blood clot straight to her heart, but she died at home while I was down the hall in my bedroom trying to ease a migraine. I had only been in my room for 2 hours when her fiance who was watching her (she had just come home a few days before from 2 major neck surgeries) rushed down the hall to tell me she wasn't breathing. She stopped breathing in her sleep. I tried to bring her back through CPR, Medics tried in the ambulance but within 15 mins of her being at the hospital I got the words (We couldn't bring her back). I spent weeks and months trying to make sense of how it is possible that in 2 hours time she could go from being alert and talking to me to just dieing without any warning or signs! Prince's sudden unexpected passing has caused me to just put it in the same category as mom's passing. I don't understand how it can just be one min/sec they are here, next they are just gone. It still baffles me how death can happen so suddenly like that. | |
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I want answers. We deserve answers. This was no ordinary relationship between an artist and his fans. So much more. There is a level of disrespect to everything that has happened to us, but also to him. Yup, still at the angry level of grieving. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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justAmeda said: I lost my mother a year and a half ago unexpectedly 2 days after Christmas. The doctors only speculate what caused her death was a blood clot straight to her heart, but she died at home while I was down the hall in my bedroom trying to ease a migraine. I had only been in my room for 2 hours when her fiance who was watching her (she had just come home a few days before from 2 major neck surgeries) rushed down the hall to tell me she wasn't breathing. She stopped breathing in her sleep. I tried to bring her back through CPR, Medics tried in the ambulance but within 15 mins of her being at the hospital I got the words (We couldn't bring her back). I spent weeks and months trying to make sense of how it is possible that in 2 hours time she could go from being alert and talking to me to just dieing without any warning or signs! Prince's sudden unexpected passing has caused me to just put it in the same category as mom's passing. I don't understand how it can just be one min/sec they are here, next they are just gone. It still baffles me how death can happen so suddenly like that. Very sorry to hear that. To my point, u knew the COD fairly quicky. A co worker lost a friend suddenly. He had an ulcer that turned into infection in his blood. Having answers helps u process. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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I don't have closure, and I still feel awful. Had a cookout with some Prince fans last week, and it felt so good to talk freely about how much we love him and his music. But I don't have closure.
It feels callous to say, but I think I will feel a bit of closure when/if and only when/if we find out how his vault is going to be managed. Of course I'd give it all up to bring him back, but now that he's gone, all that's left is the music. If it's gonna stay under lock and key indefinitely, or disintegrate into nothingness, that is a tragedy too. | |
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and damn, like i keep saying, it helps us learn too. I got ulcers, always thought of them as a minor nuisance. I think maybe evolution made us like this to learn what not to do. I'm sure in biblical times for example, eating pork caused problems so they said god told them not to eat it. Learning is good. | |
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