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Reply #90 posted 06/19/16 7:00pm

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XxAxX said:

purplethunder3121 said:

In time, we all must find a way. But, hopefully, that means finding a way to continue making Prince's music still meaningful to us as we continue on this journey through life...


yes, of course. the message, not the man. we focused so much of our scrutiny on "prince" the guy, but we should never forget he was always pointing up, lifting our eyes to something else. i do understand.


still though, the gravity well thing. i think we do the man a disservice if we don't give that a shot... someone should petition the estate for the right to use Paisley Park to conduct a time travel rescue... hmmm smile sigh








I'm all ready to jump into a time machine! smile

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Reply #91 posted 06/19/16 7:01pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

XxAxX said:


yes, of course. the message, not the man. we focused so much of our scrutiny on "prince" the guy, but we should never forget he was always pointing up, lifting our eyes to something else. i do understand.


still though, the gravity well thing. i think we do the man a disservice if we don't give that a shot... someone should petition the estate for the right to use Paisley Park to conduct a time travel rescue... hmmm smile sigh








I'm all ready to jump into a time machine! smile


see? forget closure! biggrin

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Reply #92 posted 06/19/16 7:03pm

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XxAxX said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I'm all ready to jump into a time machine! smile


see? forget closure! biggrin

That word sucks.

admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart.
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Reply #93 posted 06/19/16 7:11pm

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mimi1956 said:

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see? forget closure! biggrin

That word sucks.

yes it does, since it implies acceptance. reality is mutable at the quantum level so in the world of fantasy alternate potential reality anything is possible. so, i'll take the quantum fantasy thing over closure and accepting a hole in my life where prince used to live. is that so wrong? by the way, you got any extension cords i can borrow??

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Reply #94 posted 06/19/16 7:18pm

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mimi1956 said:

XxAxX said:


see? forget closure! biggrin

That word sucks.

It doesn't exist. It's just a very popular word that in the end is meaningless...because whatever relevant meaning that infused it's creation has been lost in it's over-use. As if it is now a mechanical step in a how-to-book to fix a piece of machinery...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #95 posted 06/19/16 7:21pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

mimi1956 said:

That word sucks.

It doesn't exist. It's just a very popular word that in the end is meaningless...because whatever relevant meaning that infused it's creation has been lost in it's over-use. As if it is now a mechanical step in a how-to-book to fix a piece of machinery...


yes! i say we should work our way backwards through the stages of grief and arrive at a clear sense of denial/extreme faith in potential alternate reality and time travel rescues. who knows? if we dream hard enough tomorrow we might wake up in a world where prince still exists. closure. ha

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Reply #96 posted 06/19/16 8:32pm

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XxAxX said:



morningsong said:


XxAxX said:


lol :HUG: yes it is. and even though he never spoke to me i'm still missing dude rose thanks for understanding.



Nah, he might of had a few million others, no true one-on-one time but hardly one-sided, he gave something (which is why we're in the place and time) we gave something. There was a relatonship, one that quite a few people put a lot of time and energy (not to mention money) into. I just noted it's almost that same feeling, not quite but in that same vicinity. You can reason why you should just be happy with however it stands, but you still have that irrational need of at least knowing why it came to an end, even if the answer would hurt, you almost can't help yourself pondering on it. Even at times acting on it.

he gave a LOT. not just a constant stream of music in one form or another, but allowing us fans in to dance parties and concerts at PP After Dark. there were snacks, bottled water, and every effort made for fans' comfort. how many superstars do that? i've been realizing that for years now my favorite party destination has always been paisley park. and, it was okay to be a weird old lady dancing around in the back. i went with friends occasionally and also met people there but it was okay to be alone too. how many places are safe like that, with someone like PRINCE walking around, sparking things up? his generosity was incredible. oh. crap. here i go again bawl



Yes he did. I wish I could have experienced PP like that, But it wasn't meant to be. It was fun reading about others' experience though.
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Reply #97 posted 06/19/16 8:41pm

morningsong

XxAxX said:



purplethunder3121 said:




XxAxX said:




tell me about it. a gravity well requires two black holes, and i'll i've got is two big, spinning magnets. still, i think if the magnets are concentrated and powerful enough, it will work. i had to siphon power from everyone in the neighborhood and the vibrations from the energy field are too much for my condo. i figure, if i could set up inside the sound stage room at paisley park i could create a field big enough to envelop the entire facility, which should permit me to 'walk through' 'time' and warn prince.

anyway, if that doesn't work i believe i will possibly, just maybe, eventually come around to an acceptance of his passing. neutral smile sigh



In time, we all must find a way. But, hopefully, that means finding a way to continue making Prince's music still meaningful to us as we continue on this journey through life...




yes, of course. the message, not the man. we focused so much of our scrutiny on "prince" the guy, but we should never forget he was always pointing up, lifting our eyes to something else. i do understand.



still though, the gravity well thing. i think we do the man a disservice if we don't give that a shot... someone should petition the estate for the right to use Paisley Park to conduct a time travel rescue... hmmm smile sigh



. Nelson" would be a r
















biggrin If I knew how..."Mr. Nelson" would be a reality.
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Reply #98 posted 06/19/16 9:04pm

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morningsong said:

XxAxX said:


yes, of course. the message, not the man. we focused so much of our scrutiny on "prince" the guy, but we should never forget he was always pointing up, lifting our eyes to something else. i do understand.


still though, the gravity well thing. i think we do the man a disservice if we don't give that a shot... someone should petition the estate for the right to use Paisley Park to conduct a time travel rescue... hmmm smile sigh

. Nelson" would be a r








biggrin If I knew how..."Mr. Nelson" would be a reality. [Edited 6/19/16 20:42pm]


join me. nod fantasy ain't so bad. dip in a toe, the water's warm...

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Reply #99 posted 06/19/16 9:42pm

morningsong

XxAxX said:



morningsong said:


XxAxX said:



yes, of course. the message, not the man. we focused so much of our scrutiny on "prince" the guy, but we should never forget he was always pointing up, lifting our eyes to something else. i do understand.



still though, the gravity well thing. i think we do the man a disservice if we don't give that a shot... someone should petition the estate for the right to use Paisley Park to conduct a time travel rescue... hmmm smile sigh




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biggrin If I knew how..."Mr. Nelson" would be a reality. [Edited 6/19/16 20:42pm]


join me. nod fantasy ain't so bad. dip in a toe, the water's warm...




Been doing a little of constructing of my own since I've been on more stable ground.
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Reply #100 posted 06/19/16 10:19pm

ForeverPaisley

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Do you feel that you have closure from Prince's death yet? I don't. Maybe if I attend some type of Prince party or memorial in the future where I can mourn and/or celebrate with others, I will get it out of my system.

I don't think I will ever have closure, not in the way you state, but then I don't like to think of words like death, passing, and even though I am recent with posting (correction - I am RETURNED after being at sea for years followed by tragedies of my own - glad I found my way back to ORG), you'll notice I will always say something like The man IS beautiful, The man IS a genius, versus the past tense . I don't know - maybe that's denial? But I like to think that it's more that I'm accepting that he's not gone, he will never be completely gone, he's as he stated, onto the next chapter/plane of existence/afterworld, or just because I know he will be a part of me forever.

That being said, I also have gone to two fan events so far with another two coming up in June and July, I highly recommend it. There really IS something about being sorrounded by fellow Prince Friends who understand your feelings.

hug heart from Vancouver.

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Reply #101 posted 06/19/16 10:21pm

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sonshine said:

Not really. I still find myself wishing it were a bad dream, wondering why can't this all just be a big mistake. The grief is a bit better, but I'm nowhere close to accepting what has happened. In my definition acceptance = closure. So no, I'm not there yet.

YES. I very much feel this way. Ever day I wish I would wake up and this would all dissolve into the fog of a distant dream. Even though I am trying to (as stated in my previous reply here) accept that he's still with us, just in another plane/afterworld etc), I still find myself brought to tears multiple times through the week. I do find sollace here at Org with all of you though. We'll get through this together! grouphug

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Reply #102 posted 06/19/16 10:22pm

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sharonbell said:

XxAxX said:

I'm not looking for answers, although I do think we don't know everything, but then again, we're not his family. I guess I felt that although I did not know him personally, he had a way of making feel connected to him spiritually and through his music. When he passed, you felt someone you were connected to just left, and it happened so quickly. As I said, it would have been better if I would have gone to one of the Prince parties where they honored him.

You should check events in your area, if it's anything like Vancouver, there will still be events to attend smile

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Reply #103 posted 06/19/16 10:29pm

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No I don't have any closure and I probably never will. It is just so frustrating reading different stuff online and listening to what people are saying. Even on you tube the comments people make just upset me even more. Everyone wants to act like they knew him personally and what he would want. I'm just still in shock and I can't believe this is really happening. I just want it to be not true. I would give anything for this to not be true. I think that's my problem. I can't have closure because I refuse to accept it. I'm sad all the time. #LoveU4EverMyPrince💜💜💜

hug Aww hun, I know it's a difficult time sad It's definitely more upsetting than I ever imagined something like this to be. Even in comparison to MJ - my feelings of grief are infinitely heavier than the ache I felt when he left us too.

I am right there with you hun. I found myself uncharacteristically getting into youtube squabbles, defending Prince at any opportunity and then just had to stop all together because it was allowing negative/angry feelings to fester and I don't think that would be what Prince would want from any of us (even if that does poke your comment about thinking we know what he would want, which is true - how could we *really* but I suspect we like to think we know him a little, and being the type of person we know him to be, I feel like that's pretty valid).

I hope each day gets just a bit easier for you. grouphug

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Reply #104 posted 06/19/16 10:34pm

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I think that closure will be hard to come by. Even though in my logical mind I know he is gone, when I listen to his music or watch his performances online, it doesn't seem real. Here is a man so full of life and light, it just doesn't make sense that he isn't here. Because my day to day "interactions" with Prince haven't changed, it is easy to put the truth aside for a minute. But then it hits you in the gut all over again. But I don't know that I want closure. I don't want to move on from him. I don't want him to just be a memory.

All of this, is so true for me as well. Prince remains in my life every day just as you mentioned. I find I listen to each word or the inflictions in his voice more intently. I watch performances with a mixture of the initial awe of watching a genius in action, and heartache. But yes it can be easy to temporarily forget for a moment until reality jumps up and kicks me in the heart all over again sigh bawl

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Reply #105 posted 06/19/16 10:40pm

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endiadj said:
what answers are ya'll waiting for? he's dead and you know how/why he died. maybe ya'll are waiting for something that doesn't exist.
I'm not really looking for answers. I know more than enough already. Or at least enough. I don't need more private or personal details. I guess I'm spending more time than I should be just trying to find peace, trying to find something that will make me feel better, that will help me accept what's happened. Because I'm not one of those people who thinks it was his time, or who finds relief in the fact he isn't in pain anymore. He didn't have to die for that to happen. I believe he had a lot more living to do and I'm certain he thought so too.

hug cry I feel like that too, he still was a young man (in comparison). But I have heard that hip replacement pain can be unbearable. It's heartbreaking to think how many times he put on a happy/life carries on as usual expression to mask what he was really dealing with. That's hard for me to make peace with. And that he was alone. I will never ever accept that particular piece of reality. bawl

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Reply #106 posted 06/21/16 12:13am

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I don't have closure either.

I tell myself that his passing is just like taking a long break until we meet again. Then the party will truly continue. Its not goodbye but see you later. Like Erykah Badu says "I guess I'll see you next lifetime". We have to provide outr own closure.

"Where words fail, music speaks"
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Reply #107 posted 06/21/16 4:34am

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none at all...pain & sense of loss seems to be getting worse.

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Reply #108 posted 06/21/16 5:07am

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"Closure" is an overused pop psychology phrase. There is no such thing. People deal with death in the best way they can and continue on.



True... to an extent. I know from my own experience that acceptance and processing of a loss is much more difficult when it is sudden or unexpected. There is even a thing called complex or complicated grief. When you can't get answers or satisfactory answers or a chance to say goodbye, the grief process can become interrupted or stalled. Likewise if you are deeply angry or upset at some aspect around the passing, the grief itself can be even more difficult and lasting. So I think the fact that many posters not just on this thread but on the org in general are expressing trouble accepting or processing the loss is being magnified by the lack of information around his passing. In that respect alone I think it would be a great kindness if once the investigations are over, someone would answer the questions people have here, as it would help with people's healing and grief.
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Reply #109 posted 06/21/16 5:33am

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starrlight said:

I don't have closure either.

I tell myself that his passing is just like taking a long break until we meet again. Then the party will truly continue. Its not goodbye but see you later. Like Erykah Badu says "I guess I'll see you next lifetime". We have to provide outr own closure.

Thank U so much for your words. They resonate with me and light up hope. I will cherish them anytime I feel lost.

Stef.

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Reply #110 posted 06/21/16 12:13pm

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No closure I dont think I will ever get over it. I like to imagine he is alive thru this music.
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Reply #111 posted 06/21/16 12:32pm

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What does "closure" even mean? That I'm not supposed to feel sad anymore? Or that all my questions have been answered?

I hate psycho-babbly terms like that. You want an example of closure? A zipper is a closure. A button is a closure.

The questions will never be answered until we go where Prince has gone - if then. All we can do until that time is accept his death and celebrate his life.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #112 posted 06/21/16 12:48pm

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Genesia said:

What does "closure" even mean? That I'm not supposed to feel sad anymore? Or that all my questions have been answered?

I hate psycho-babbly terms like that. You want an example of closure? A zipper is a closure. A button is a closure.

The questions will never be answered until we go where Prince has gone - if then. All we can do until that time is accept his death and celebrate his life.

LOL Exactly! I hate that word, too.

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Reply #113 posted 06/21/16 1:11pm

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purplethunder3121 said:



Genesia said:


What does "closure" even mean? That I'm not supposed to feel sad anymore? Or that all my questions have been answered?

I hate psycho-babbly terms like that. You want an example of closure? A zipper is a closure. A button is a closure.

The questions will never be answered until we go where Prince has gone - if then. All we can do until that time is accept his death and celebrate his life.



LOL Exactly! I hate that word, too.




Dammit, Genesia! I just spit my soda everywhere!


Woo that lightened my heart.
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Reply #114 posted 06/21/16 1:18pm

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Genesia for President headbang bananadance bow bow bow love

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Reply #115 posted 06/21/16 2:20pm

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I lost my mother a year and a half ago unexpectedly 2 days after Christmas. The doctors only speculate what caused her death was a blood clot straight to her heart, but she died at home while I was down the hall in my bedroom trying to ease a migraine. I had only been in my room for 2 hours when her fiance who was watching her (she had just come home a few days before from 2 major neck surgeries) rushed down the hall to tell me she wasn't breathing. She stopped breathing in her sleep. I tried to bring her back through CPR, Medics tried in the ambulance but within 15 mins of her being at the hospital I got the words (We couldn't bring her back). I spent weeks and months trying to make sense of how it is possible that in 2 hours time she could go from being alert and talking to me to just dieing without any warning or signs! Prince's sudden unexpected passing has caused me to just put it in the same category as mom's passing. I don't understand how it can just be one min/sec they are here, next they are just gone. It still baffles me how death can happen so suddenly like that.

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Reply #116 posted 06/21/16 2:28pm

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I want answers. We deserve answers. This was no ordinary relationship between an artist and his fans. So much more.

There is a level of disrespect to everything that has happened to us, but also to him.

Yup, still at the angry level of grieving.
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #117 posted 06/21/16 2:32pm

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I lost my mother a year and a half ago unexpectedly 2 days after Christmas. The doctors only speculate what caused her death was a blood clot straight to her heart, but she died at home while I was down the hall in my bedroom trying to ease a migraine. I had only been in my room for 2 hours when her fiance who was watching her (she had just come home a few days before from 2 major neck surgeries) rushed down the hall to tell me she wasn't breathing. She stopped breathing in her sleep. I tried to bring her back through CPR, Medics tried in the ambulance but within 15 mins of her being at the hospital I got the words (We couldn't bring her back). I spent weeks and months trying to make sense of how it is possible that in 2 hours time she could go from being alert and talking to me to just dieing without any warning or signs! Prince's sudden unexpected passing has caused me to just put it in the same category as mom's passing. I don't understand how it can just be one min/sec they are here, next they are just gone. It still baffles me how death can happen so suddenly like that.



Very sorry to hear that.

To my point, u knew the COD fairly quicky. A co worker lost a friend suddenly. He had an ulcer that turned into infection in his blood. Having answers helps u process.
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #118 posted 06/21/16 2:36pm

IRockThere4IAm

I don't have closure, and I still feel awful. Had a cookout with some Prince fans last week, and it felt so good to talk freely about how much we love him and his music. But I don't have closure.

It feels callous to say, but I think I will feel a bit of closure when/if and only when/if we find out how his vault is going to be managed. Of course I'd give it all up to bring him back, but now that he's gone, all that's left is the music. If it's gonna stay under lock and key indefinitely, or disintegrate into nothingness, that is a tragedy too.

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Reply #119 posted 06/21/16 2:41pm

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Revolution said:

justAmeda said:

I lost my mother a year and a half ago unexpectedly 2 days after Christmas. The doctors only speculate what caused her death was a blood clot straight to her heart, but she died at home while I was down the hall in my bedroom trying to ease a migraine. I had only been in my room for 2 hours when her fiance who was watching her (she had just come home a few days before from 2 major neck surgeries) rushed down the hall to tell me she wasn't breathing. She stopped breathing in her sleep. I tried to bring her back through CPR, Medics tried in the ambulance but within 15 mins of her being at the hospital I got the words (We couldn't bring her back). I spent weeks and months trying to make sense of how it is possible that in 2 hours time she could go from being alert and talking to me to just dieing without any warning or signs! Prince's sudden unexpected passing has caused me to just put it in the same category as mom's passing. I don't understand how it can just be one min/sec they are here, next they are just gone. It still baffles me how death can happen so suddenly like that.

Very sorry to hear that. To my point, u knew the COD fairly quicky. A co worker lost a friend suddenly. He had an ulcer that turned into infection in his blood. Having answers helps u process.

and damn, like i keep saying, it helps us learn too. I got ulcers, always thought of them as a minor nuisance. I think maybe evolution made us like this to learn what not to do. I'm sure in biblical times for example, eating pork caused problems so they said god told them not to eat it. Learning is good.

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