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Reply #30 posted 06/20/16 9:24pm

migmigmig

Thanks for stopping by.

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That insight about him spending all his time in the studio partially to simply pass the time, because he was too famous to have any semblance of life outside the walls of PP... I know this is true of many famous people, but it still struck me as very sad. That isolation (which he coveted, apparently, as much as it was foisted upon him) was so damning to him, in so many ways.

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Reply #31 posted 06/20/16 9:34pm

nursev

3121Live said:

Ian Boxill here. As requested by one of your board mates i will answer a few questions.


As far as the tapes destroyed, These were songs that were recorded prior to 2001 I believe, so they are songs prior to me working with him. I was told this by some of the guys that were working at Paisley at the time. I am not sure which masters were destroyed but I believe some were released songs like Sexy MF and other songs that were explicit and had cursing on them. Hope that helps.

Having been in the vault with him on many occasions there are still a lot of tapes in there that seemed to be unreleased music. He would always have me look for songs there and it would take me a while to go through all the tapes because it’s in no particular order. Whatever is still in the vault will be released eventually I am 100% sure.

Nice of U 2 answer. Thanks. Wow the masters to Sexy MF destroyed eek

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Reply #32 posted 06/20/16 9:42pm

3121Live

nursev said:

3121Live said:

Ian Boxill here. As requested by one of your board mates i will answer a few questions.


As far as the tapes destroyed, These were songs that were recorded prior to 2001 I believe, so they are songs prior to me working with him. I was told this by some of the guys that were working at Paisley at the time. I am not sure which masters were destroyed but I believe some were released songs like Sexy MF and other songs that were explicit and had cursing on them. Hope that helps.

Having been in the vault with him on many occasions there are still a lot of tapes in there that seemed to be unreleased music. He would always have me look for songs there and it would take me a while to go through all the tapes because it’s in no particular order. Whatever is still in the vault will be released eventually I am 100% sure.

Nice of U 2 answer. Thanks. Wow the masters to Sexy MF destroyed eek

Whatever was in his possesion was destroyed, I assume that would have been the multitrack. Hopefully the master 2 track is in the hands of WB still.

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Reply #33 posted 06/20/16 9:45pm

nursev

3121Live said:

nursev said:

Nice of U 2 answer. Thanks. Wow the masters to Sexy MF destroyed eek

Whatever was in his possesion was destroyed, I assume that would have been the multitrack. Hopefully the master 2 track is in the hands of WB still.

Still very sad to hear that he destroyed some of his work. Thank U for sharing with us. Any other fan stories or just intersting stories about him?

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Reply #34 posted 06/20/16 10:07pm

3121Live

nursev said:

3121Live said:

Whatever was in his possesion was destroyed, I assume that would have been the multitrack. Hopefully the master 2 track is in the hands of WB still.

Still very sad to hear that he destroyed some of his work. Thank U for sharing with us. Any other fan stories or just intersting stories about him?

I have so many I don't even know where to be begin. Out of respect I probably will only share a few at some point.

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Reply #35 posted 06/20/16 10:11pm

nursev

3121Live said:

nursev said:

Still very sad to hear that he destroyed some of his work. Thank U for sharing with us. Any other fan stories or just intersting stories about him?

I have so many I don't even know where to be begin. Out of respect I probably will only share a few at some point.

I would love to hear them and we understand. Feel free to share whenever you like and thank you for talking with us.

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Reply #36 posted 06/20/16 10:35pm

jstar69

well i guess extraloveable (original full version) was definitely destroyed

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Reply #37 posted 06/20/16 10:39pm

ACharmed1

3121Live said:

nursev said:

Nice of U 2 answer. Thanks. Wow the masters to Sexy MF destroyed eek

Whatever was in his possesion was destroyed, I assume that would have been the multitrack. Hopefully the master 2 track is in the hands of WB still.

eek I have to wonder about the Black album. Thank U for confirming that Ian and sorry for Ur loss.

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Reply #38 posted 06/20/16 11:22pm

anudha

One other time, this one fan was camping out for weeks and hunting wild animals for food in the forested area behind Paisley Park! I think she was using a bow and arrow to hunt, no lie. Absolute madness. Always seemed like his crazier fans were women too.

I just can't. This had me rolling evey time I would read it. I'm in tears. The lengths some would go to. No wonder Prince talked about fans vs fanatics. He knew some first hand.

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Reply #39 posted 06/20/16 11:49pm

3121Live

anudha said:

One other time, this one fan was camping out for weeks and hunting wild animals for food in the forested area behind Paisley Park! I think she was using a bow and arrow to hunt, no lie. Absolute madness. Always seemed like his crazier fans were women too.

I just can't. This had me rolling evey time I would read it. I'm in tears. The lengths some would go to. No wonder Prince talked about fans vs fanatics. He knew some first hand.

Obvioulsy some fans had some mental health issues. You are never quite sure when someone could turn violent. I am so glad i didn't have to do security for him!!

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Reply #40 posted 06/21/16 5:03am

Kara

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3121Live said:



nursev said:




3121Live said:


Ian Boxill here. As requested by one of your board mates i will answer a few questions.



As far as the tapes destroyed, These were songs that were recorded prior to 2001 I believe, so they are songs prior to me working with him. I was told this by some of the guys that were working at Paisley at the time. I am not sure which masters were destroyed but I believe some were released songs like Sexy MF and other songs that were explicit and had cursing on them. Hope that helps.



Having been in the vault with him on many occasions there are still a lot of tapes in there that seemed to be unreleased music. He would always have me look for songs there and it would take me a while to go through all the tapes because it’s in no particular order. Whatever is still in the vault will be released eventually I am 100% sure.


Nice of U 2 answer. Thanks. Wow the masters to Sexy MF destroyed eek



Whatever was in his possesion was destroyed, I assume that would have been the multitrack. Hopefully the master 2 track is in the hands of WB still.


sigh Thanks for the info!
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Reply #41 posted 06/21/16 7:30am

injuredpinky

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3121Live said:

Ian Boxill here. As requested by one of your board mates i will answer a few questions.



As far as the tapes destroyed, These were songs that were recorded prior to 2001 I believe, so they are songs prior to me working with him. I was told this by some of the guys that were working at Paisley at the time. I am not sure which masters were destroyed but I believe some were released songs like Sexy MF and other songs that were explicit and had cursing on them. Hope that helps.



Having been in the vault with him on many occasions there are still a lot of tapes in there that seemed to be unreleased music. He would always have me look for songs there and it would take me a while to go through all the tapes because it’s in no particular order. Whatever is still in the vault will be released eventually I am 100% sure.



Thank you Ian for speaking with us!

At least with the released songs, WB could have backups. For any songs that were never submitted to the record companies, I imagine those would be gone forever. Such a shame.
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Reply #42 posted 06/21/16 11:16am

1Sasha

injuredpinky said:

3121Live said:

Ian Boxill here. As requested by one of your board mates i will answer a few questions.


As far as the tapes destroyed, These were songs that were recorded prior to 2001 I believe, so they are songs prior to me working with him. I was told this by some of the guys that were working at Paisley at the time. I am not sure which masters were destroyed but I believe some were released songs like Sexy MF and other songs that were explicit and had cursing on them. Hope that helps.

Having been in the vault with him on many occasions there are still a lot of tapes in there that seemed to be unreleased music. He would always have me look for songs there and it would take me a while to go through all the tapes because it’s in no particular order. Whatever is still in the vault will be released eventually I am 100% sure.
Thank you Ian for speaking with us! At least with the released songs, WB could have backups. For any songs that were never submitted to the record companies, I imagine those would be gone forever. Such a shame.

I read at one time that the vault had been subject to water damage over the years. This in turn damaged items stored within. Any truth to this? Thank you.

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Reply #43 posted 06/21/16 12:09pm

SchlomoThaHomo

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Great read! The bit about the hunting fan is priceless! I remember the veiled lady. I never spoke to her, but she certainly stuck out.

I think a lot of us feared that Prince might destroy recordings he deemed inappropriate, and I guess this is a confirmation. I wonder if it's part of why remasters never came. sad

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #44 posted 06/22/16 10:26am

bfunk

I would assume that WB has safety copies of at least released material.

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Reply #45 posted 06/26/16 10:20pm

bfunk

jstar69 said:

well i guess extraloveable (original full version) was definitely destroyed

http://www.vibe.com/featured/hitnrun-phase-two-an-oral-history-of-princes-last-studio-album/

Justin Stanley (Studio engineer, drummer, producer and husband of alternative soul singer Nikka Costa.): “Xtraloveable” was an old school, classic Prince track that dated back to the ‘80s. Prince would sometimes pull tapes out of the Vault (The Purple One’s mythical heavily secured library rumored to contain thousands of unreleased songs, videos and concert footage). He would bring them in and put them in the tape machine. Until the end, Prince was still using analog tape. He would only go to Pro Tools at the end of a session. He used the tapes to get him inspired. He was always reinventing and taking inspiration from those tapes in the Vault.

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Reply #46 posted 06/26/16 11:51pm

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"Prince had the most bizarre fans. One used to show up at functions dressed from head to toe in a white garment. I can’t even call it a dress. She would have a veil on and I believed she changed her name to Princess Rodgers Nelson. Madness! "

Ha ha, we were talking to her at the 2001 Celebration at Paisley Park. Sghe said she came from a commune in Hawaii where everyone was free and could be nude.

She would do ballet twirls during his perfomrances, and I remember she sort of danced a collapse to the floor when he sang his last set at either the finale for "Purple Rain" or " Anna Stesia"

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Reply #47 posted 06/28/16 4:28am

CalhounSq

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just WOW about the chick in the veil!! eek

heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #48 posted 06/28/16 11:29am

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3121Live said:

Ian Boxill here. As requested by one of your board mates i will answer a few questions.


As far as the tapes destroyed, These were songs that were recorded prior to 2001 I believe, so they are songs prior to me working with him. I was told this by some of the guys that were working at Paisley at the time. I am not sure which masters were destroyed but I believe some were released songs like Sexy MF and other songs that were explicit and had cursing on them. Hope that helps.

Having been in the vault with him on many occasions there are still a lot of tapes in there that seemed to be unreleased music. He would always have me look for songs there and it would take me a while to go through all the tapes because it’s in no particular order. Whatever is still in the vault will be released eventually I am 100% sure.

Thanks for the reply, Ian! That was such a great interview on Huffington, btw!

In my heart, I know you're somewhere laughing in the purple rain...
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