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Reply #60 posted 07/07/16 8:31am

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purplethunder3121 said:

mimi1956 said:

Have you ever been married? 'Nuf said. lol

razz lol Sometimes no relationship is better than one that doesn't work.

^ this.

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Reply #61 posted 07/07/16 8:32am

Genesia

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Blakbear said:

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Yeah, because a grown man in his 50s, who was always independent, needs to be taken care of and told what to do smh.
Yup. He was really a tall 5 year old, di'intcha kno? I think I have been saying this for weeks but some people are convinced that Prince was incapable of independent thought outside of music. A really insulting thought, isn't it? I mean I appreciate the sentiment of wanting to care for him, however, I also know how irritating it can be to be smothered by people who think you're a functional idiot, and I would straight arm NOPE THE FUCK out of people who tried it. True story, I ended a relationship before marriage because the guy acted like these folks. Oh hay I am an adult, stop treating me like an idiot. In general, who the hell even knows what being married to Prince was like. He could have been hell on wheels, for all we know. I keep going back to the photographer who said "Prince is a lot -- sometimes I wanted to get away!" I'm paraphrasing here because I don't have her vid in front of me, but it sounded like she sometimes wanted to wring hus pretty neck. lol


I cannot let this opportunity go by...

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Reply #62 posted 07/07/16 9:01am

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I don't feel bad that he was single -- I'm single myself (and over 40!) and I'm fine with it. Plenty of people are perfectly happy being single.

It does get me down a little when I think about how much he was struggling, because that kind of struggle is never happy. Whatever led to a situation where he ODed twice in a week, once fatally, was not pleasant -- if it involved addication/dependency, or physical pain (or emotional pain). Anyone who's in situation where they're taking enough drugs to kill them is really struggling with something. And that's sad to me.

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Reply #63 posted 07/07/16 9:01am

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Genesia said:



Blakbear said:


avajane said:
Yeah, because a grown man in his 50s, who was always independent, needs to be taken care of and told what to do smh.

Yup. He was really a tall 5 year old, di'intcha kno? I think I have been saying this for weeks but some people are convinced that Prince was incapable of independent thought outside of music. A really insulting thought, isn't it? I mean I appreciate the sentiment of wanting to care for him, however, I also know how irritating it can be to be smothered by people who think you're a functional idiot, and I would straight arm NOPE THE FUCK out of people who tried it. True story, I ended a relationship before marriage because the guy acted like these folks. Oh hay I am an adult, stop treating me like an idiot. In general, who the hell even knows what being married to Prince was like. He could have been hell on wheels, for all we know. I keep going back to the photographer who said "Prince is a lot -- sometimes I wanted to get away!" I'm paraphrasing here because I don't have her vid in front of me, but it sounded like she sometimes wanted to wring hus pretty neck. lol


I cannot let this opportunity go by...



You found me out: I am a Nopetopus. biggrin
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Reply #64 posted 07/07/16 9:02am

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Blakbear said:

Genesia said:


I cannot let this opportunity go by...

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You found me out: I am a Nopetopus. biggrin


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Reply #65 posted 07/07/16 9:25am

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Me too, Gen. Me, too. But back to the original intent of the post....

Do you think Prince might have been fulfilled by all the platonic relationships he seemed to have? Or maybe he just realized he wasn't in a good place to try a romantic relationship again and wanted to maybe straighten himself up?

People do sometimes realize they just aren't capable of it and let it go for awhile. I mean I would LOVE a romantic relationship but I'm not even a particularly good friend right now, so romance is out of the question for the time being. I gotta straighten me out before I attach another to the roller coaster, you know?
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Reply #66 posted 07/07/16 9:48am

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Me too, Gen. Me, too. But back to the original intent of the post.... Do you think Prince might have been fulfilled by all the platonic relationships he seemed to have? Or maybe he just realized he wasn't in a good place to try a romantic relationship again and wanted to maybe straighten himself up? People do sometimes realize they just aren't capable of it and let it go for awhile. I mean I would LOVE a romantic relationship but I'm not even a particularly good friend right now, so romance is out of the question for the time being. I gotta straighten me out before I attach another to the roller coaster, you know?


Oh, I think there were so many things going on with him. The pain of having been burned - and the prospect of it happening again. ("I don't want to give you my love, cuz I don't want to lose my mind.") Getting older and feeling that he had to hide it to maintain his image. ("I'm probably past my expiration date, but still I adore you.") Reconciling his carnal self with the teachings of his religion. ("So many things we can do in the New World. I can be your future lover, you can be my future girl.")

Mostly, I think all he went through as a child - abandonment, isolation - just made it really hard for him to form deep, lasting relationships. I think he wanted to - but that everything had to fulfill the patterns that were established in his formative years. People leaving him (even in a figurative sense) - or him pushing them until they did.

Given all that, he might have decided that it was just best to hold people at arm's length, in general. It sounds like he had personal relationships with a number of people (mostly women), but that there was a line he just didn't cross, anymore.

Of course, this is all speculation. I didn't know him, so there's a strong possibility that what I've just written is pure bullshit. lol

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Reply #67 posted 07/07/16 10:01am

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Gen, I can tell you I still give dudes the Nopetopus treatment, because men have not proven to be stable influences in my life, with two exceptions, my uncles. And it takes people a very long time to gain any real trust from me. Not to say Prince had the same thought patterns as me ( biggrin wouldn't that be funny, because you cannot pay me to wear heels lace or makeup), but perhaps he did have a rather challenging time with relationships because of his childhood. It's one of those things. Either you accept that it's up to you to get past it or you don't. I dunno. I have never spoken to him so I can't begin to judge what hid emotional state might have been at any given time. Some of his actions were pure jerk, sometimes he seemed really sweet.


Like any human biggrin
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Reply #68 posted 07/07/16 10:51am

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I've been feeling in the last few days like Prince didn't have a deep love after his 2nd wife, and as though he was really happy with her and hurt when she left. I don't put a lot of stocks in psychics but I did hear one that seemed spot on, meaning my instincts picked up that she was right, that he is happier where he is now and had been lonely, and that he hadn't had a deep love in a long, long time. On the other hand I realized today how much he LIVED. He lived a great, fulfilling life that was SO interesting. So I guess that's a very good thing. Looking at pics and listening to his music it seems he really dug his 2nd wife. I hope he didn't close his heart after that, or maybe he just didn't find another great love afterwards - or maybe he did?

I have had some of the same feelings as well. I have been looking at videos and listening to his music non-stop. So much so that I have forgotten that he is gone and it hits me really hard when I'm reminded that he is no longer with us. In looking at past pics, interviews, videos it just seems like he was his most happiest when he was with Mayte. He was okay during the second marriage but I didnt see the same lightness of spirit in him. Reviewing the last couple of years he just didnt seem the same. He seemed as if there were a weight on his shoulders that you don't sense 7,8,10 years ago. I have one question, though: In anyone's opinion here: was his deepening, deeper commitment to the JH religion a hindrance or a help? I don't know the philosophy or beliefs of the JH religion but this is the second musician (MJ 1st) that was deep in this faith and succumbed to a heartbreaking death. In the earlier days of his passing I found myself just screaming out that I wished that he had been deep in the faith of the Baptist, Presbyterian, heck even Scientology 'cause at least Tom Cruise is alive--alive and batshit crazy but alive! I can't get past this. It's like a scab being torn off every other day. I want to stop listening to the music to get away from it but I seek it out everyday to keep him close and "alive".

"Tell me you wanta get with...The Pretty Man!"
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Reply #69 posted 07/07/16 12:51pm

benni

Regarding this quote from the Rolling Stone interview:


"On a possibly related note, Prince says he's unsure if he'll marry again. "That's another thing that's up to God," he says. "It's all magnetism anyway – something would pull me into its gravity, and I wouldn't be able to get out from it.""


I read this as him saying that it's all up to God, the way in which it will happen is that he will be pulled into it, that it is inevitable at that point. Not that it is something he wants to avoid, but rather when he meets the right person, he wouldn't be able to avoid it even if he wanted to because the experience of it would pull him along with it and he'd go. I mean, really, there is no other way to read this quote.


And I have been divorced twice and am currently alone (by choice). I could date if I wanted to, could be in another relationship, but at this point, I'm perfectly content to just allow things to occur naturally if they occur. In other words, I'm not out actively seeking a relationship. I honestly think this is where Prince was in his life. He'd done the marriage thing twice, both times it failed, he'd had other relationships that, obviously, didn't last. At some point, you just stop and think that you are going to put it all into God's hands and whatever happens, happens. I'm in total agreement with the quote I posted, the next time is up to God, and the only way it will happen is if it pulls me into its gravity, that I can't get out of it, it just naturally occurs and it is strong, healthy, and good. Yes, I experience moments of loneliness, but we can be lonely in a room full of people, in a relationship, surrounded by people we love. Yes, sometimes I wonder how things could be different, but realize it does no good thinking like that because the reality is exactly what is in this moment. I think Prince knew all of that, too, and chose to be alone at this time, but kept himself open to the possibility of a relationship in the future. That is something you can't regret if you do for the right reasons, and I think he chose to be alone during these last few years for the right reasons. So I don't begrudge him that choice, nor do I feel bad about it for him. If he'd wanted to "see" someone, he could have easily had his pick of women, but he knew it wanted to be something that pulled him in deeply and didn't let him go, not something that was forced into place.


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