cardinal said:

purplepoppy said:

Let's use the real words to explain the words. They are in the article.

purplepoppy said:

sonshine said:

anangellooksdown said:

I've been feeling in the last few days like Prince didn't have a deep love after his 2nd wife, and as though he was really happy with her and hurt when she left. On the other hand I realized today how much he LIVED. He lived a great, fulfilling life that was SO interesting. So I guess that's a very good thing.

I'm sure it did sting a little being the one dumped since Prince was the one doing the dumping up until then. He seemed happy but she did the research and put a lot of effort into being everything he wanted or needed in a woman at that point in his life. It was all a facade tho and I would like to believe he figured her out eventually. The story I heard was that he had basically quit communicating with her so she felt she had no choice but to get out. I'm glad that relationship failed if it was as all a fake from the beginning. And my son reminded me this morning when I was feeling particularly sad about prince's passing that yes it's sad he left too soon but he put more into and got more out of his years on earth than most anyone else could do it twice the amount of time.

To the bolded, I know right!!!

wizardtelly said:

I really don't feel too bad about Prince's last years or his life, outside of the great possibility that he may have been in tremendous pain. Prince had a monumental life, lots of triumphs, he had gifts and he made the most of them and he had the thing he loved more than anything, his music. I don't think any woman could have compared to his love for music and like Prince's dad said, women are a distraction for a musician. As a musician, I understand why Prince didn't want to be bothere when he was working, but the average person thinks that's some kind of deviance. Lot's of talented musicians who don't even do it anymore because they got involved with some woman. Would a woman understand that they have to come in second? Some would, some wouldn't. I don't know how bad to feel really because we know so little about his last years. I feel bad that something was wrong though, of course, and I miss him, seems like more every day.

wizardtelly said:

cardinal said:

as stalkery as that sounds, it is hard to imagine prince hanging around the break room enough to see her "reading" her bible. i could maybe seeing him stop by once in a while for a snack or to say hi to folks, but obviously, she did something to get his attention. and i agree, he seemed to be quite happy during that time. like he was happy to be just another married guy. if she really did stalk him before breaking his heart, that is beyond despicable. anyone with a brain would know a relationship starting like that is not going to last.

I think the words stalker and stalk gets used too loosely. One can argue that Mayte's parents were stalkers because their vendetta was to show Prince her dancing. So one could actually argue that Manuela and Mayte were cut from the same cloth. There's a difference, for me at least, but I understand. Stalker is very negative. That's like me saying that we are a bunch of stalker because none of us know or knew Prince but could recite to you his life, his relationships, and so on without hesitation.. And if we were to hesitate? It would be because we are conducting research, and have good ways to find it with our sources. It's not stalking, it's called being interested, infatuated. To be honest, I didn't necessarily find Manuela to be poor taste, I think the show Hollywood Ex's was poor taste, and that reflected on Mayte. Manuela speaking about her children was not insensitive, it was indicative of the friendship that Mayte has with her. Being on such a show in general is very poor taste. To be on a show called "Hollywood Exs" is pitiful. These are all women who arguably got their names from their ex husbands, and if they made the name for their selves, they're still using their ex husbands to refer to their importance in life. It's a poor taste show, but tv is for fun and insight and entertainment so I try not to judge them. That being said though, I bracket Mayte and Manuela the same. Except, Mayte was lucky enough to be in the public eye in a way that showcases her as a princess and trophy more often. (Whether from her dancing or acting etc) Manuela was a completely different person, and to be quite frank? We don't know much about her, which is why I always find the Mayte vs Manuela bias very sad and strange. Mayte says that Ex's show served as therapy for her, which is indicative of a lot and very sad. I'm glad it served as help but it is just a shame she never actually sought real help, that would help, outside of that show. Having Prince fans become obsessed and support you, is not help. That's artificial comfort from people encouraging a fake reality. The eternal love stuff embedded on her social media is very troubling, because I see a woman deserving of love and true guidance. Loving Prince forever isn't a bad thing, but she's been milking off of his name for years now. At any random moment, she'd do something attention seeking like "Prince's underwear! Look" and that's a shame. Manuela on the other hand, she didn't publicly do much, if anything at all. She just moved along, as the opportunist she was. I mean that with no disrespect either. Mayte is equally an opportunist. Both with reason. Let's also remember Mayte and her parents were Prince fans, they thrusted her onto him. I am sure he loved them and they him, at the time, but it was long lost maybe. He never publicly reflected on any of them and I think that's due to true moving on.

ya, stalking definitely gets overused. if no one 'stalked' anyone, the species would be dead in a hundred years. Also, i think us fans get possesive of our man, just like Elvis' fans don't have much love for Priscilla, we don't for his wives. I've heard negative things about Manuela but you gotta figure, there are going to be women going through great lengths to get a man like Prince. I don't understand why she would be a fan, get a job or whatever, and try to get a fake marriage out of Prince, maybe she thought he'd be different, like most relationships that don't work out. Behind close doors, Prince may have had serious mental health issues we aren't privy to. The only other thing I'll say about his choice of women, they just never seemed very bright and in that way, he just seemed like he wanted a trophy, like a lot of men, not someone he could really have interesting conversations with. Vanity, Mayte both seemed pretty dingy to me. Manuela? only saw pics of her. But men usually don't deviate from their tastes.

PeteSilas said:

anangellooksdown said:

I cannot find the RS article online. It's gone. Anyone have a link? What year was it from?

The article is called "A Final Visit with Prince: Rolling Stone's Lost Cover Story". It is still online at rollingstone.com and was from 2014. The reason why it was "lost" is explained at the beginning. They did the interview but couldn't get a photo shoot so "the whole thing falls through". After he died they printed it because he didn't have to sign off on it anymore. Great read although I found Brian Hiatt to be smarmy at times.

Astasheiks said:

sonshine said:

anangellooksdown said: I'm sure it did sting a little being the one dumped since Prince was the one doing the dumping up until then. He seemed happy but she did the research and put a lot of effort into being everything he wanted or needed in a woman at that point in his life. It was all a facade tho and I would like to believe he figured her out eventually. The story I heard was that he had basically quit communicating with her so she felt she had no choice but to get out. I'm glad that relationship failed if it was as all a fake from the beginning. And my son reminded me this morning when I was feeling particularly sad about prince's passing that yes it's sad he left too soon but he put more into and got more out of his years on earth than most anyone else could do it twice the amount of time.

To the bolded, I know right!!!

I always wonder had she not been so bold and distracted Prince while he was still grieving, if he would have turned to the one woman who loved him...Mayte.

They had 10 years of growth and a child. He adored her and she him. I think women like Mani give the rest of us a bad name. I don't like her. She is a homewrecker.

I do however, commend her charitiable contributions that I am sure was initially funded by P.

Mayte had to make it on her own. She's a strong woman and I feel she is grieving beyond words. I wish they would have found their way together again.

The man was a womanizer. He sought out and groomed young girls to become his lover once they reached 18 (we hope he waited). He married women half his age...of course that didn't work. I doubt that he was cut from a cloth that would allow him to be happy with just one woman. In many ways he seemed to lack boundries, obsessively working on his music, obsessively chasing women. I think he was probably happier single. IMO

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PeteSilas said:

wizardtelly said:

a woman in a duke ellington documentary (a guy Miles Davis compared Prince to) once said that all his women made the fatal mistake of thinking that they were "the one" and she went on to say that "there was no such animal" that his music was the one. Same for Prince and any true artist really.

wizardtelly said:

anangellooksdown said:

BillieBalloon said:

anangellooksdown said:

Wizardtelly, Who is the special lady you speak of? And I cannot find the RS article online. It's gone. Anyone have a link? What year was it from?

Do you think if Prince was deeply in love he would have spent the last and worst week of his life alone, agitated and suffering? NO.

If he was deeply in love, I don't think it would have been the last week of his life. He wouldn't have been alone and that person would have made him see a Dr. before it got to this. And I mean a real love, a real persn, not these many "muses" that we keep reading about. Somebody with substance and strength.

mimi1956 said:

avajane said:

haha, what we wouldn't do to have him get on our nerves one more time. come back prince and chew out youtube and keep Morris from using the Time name.

avajane said:

anangellooksdown said:

And you believe this why?

Because if psychics were real, then they would have contacted Prince and told him he was going to die. They would have stopped what happened in Orlando.

If you're talking to someone and they start talking about how they believe even 0.00000001% of the horseshit that comes out of the mouths of psychics, run.

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CROWNS1 said:

The man was a womanizer. He sought out and groomed young girls to become his lover once they reached 18 (we hope he waited). He married women half his age...of course that didn't work. I doubt that he was cut from a cloth that would allow him to be happy with just one woman. In many ways he seemed to lack boundries, obsessively working on his music, obsessively chasing women. I think he was probably happier single. IMO

Yes, I think he was pretty happy single too in the end - you get in your 50s and get pretty settled in your own groove if you are single and you dont have to be with someone (marriage mate or lover) to be happy - you have to enjoy what you do, and he did - he loved his music and creativity, that is where his happiness trully was.

I get tired when people think you have to be "with someone" to be trully happy, I can say from past experience the lonliest feeling on earth is being with someone who is not right for you - that is the much more painful that being with nobody at all.........

Agree GollyGirl - All The Way Baby.

SUO -

What is up with shutting down every thread? Getting OLD! - for real

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I think as an artist being alone fuels the creativity, the time alone gives you deep thought without distractions, leaves you to fill your time with what you want to do .. music.. songwriting, reflection, its a free and open road, to then have someone to be responsible for, their happiness, their intrests etc.. just squash the process,and becomes an intrusion to what you know , plus he was concentrating on his religion, im sure the heath issues were a concern and he was trying to figure that out, im sad he had noone but at age 57 to find the RIGHT EXACT ONE in a small pool of women who wants you and you want as well, with all the baggage, (good baggage of course, stardom,jw etc.. to find that just perfect , incredible piece of the puzzle for him may have been next to impossible. You learn to live alone and get quite used to it , start to love it ..to have someone invade your space, time and lifestyle sometimes isent what you want or need.