shine a light in your eye and look what happens. BIOLOGY!

sonshine said:

Ok I'm gonna clairfy something here, because it seems what I said is being lost in translation on an internet forum like this. I do not nor have I ever thought addicts are evil, "vile", bad or whatever term someone wants to use to demonize someone with such an affliction. I think the reason addiction is such a taboo subject is because there are SOME that no matter what, they WANT to be addicts and THAT is the reason it gives all addicts a hard time getting help and coming to terms with it. Is it wrong? Sure, but because it isn't the pleasantville way of looking at life people suffer in silence. Something I noticed very quickly on here is ppl have a way of glossing over certain comments or repeated things said til it's beating a dead horse. I debated for a while weather to even come on here because Prince didn't like being talked about but I wanted to try to feel better. I was selfish. Instead, while some understood what I was saying, others are starting what feels like a picket line, which I've noticed happens A LOT on any subject on here. I get it, we all came here for the love of a man who touched us in so many ways we can't repay him and now he's gone. It's hurts. Unimaginably so. As P so often said U'll never change some ppls point of view and what they think is more so a reflection of themself. I'm a lover not a fighter. Atleast not a fighter in the sense I have to keep reiterating what I said to clairfy something before. Peace and love to ALL. As for me I'll go back to listening to Prince to cope by myself.

ACharmed1 said:

Ok I'm gonna clairfy something here, because it seems what I said is being lost in translation on an internet forum like this. I do not nor have I ever thought addicts are evil, "vile", bad or whatever term someone wants to use to demonize someone with such an affliction. I think the reason addiction is such a taboo subject is because there are SOME that no matter what, they WANT to be addicts and THAT is the reason it gives all addicts a hard time getting help and coming to terms with it. Is it wrong? Sure, but because it isn't the pleasantville way of looking at life people suffer in silence. Something I noticed very quickly on here is ppl have a way of glossing over certain comments or repeated things said til it's beating a dead horse. I debated for a while weather to even come on here because Prince didn't like being talked about but I wanted to try to feel better. I was selfish. Instead, while some understood what I was saying, others are starting what feels like a picket line, which I've noticed happens A LOT on any subject on here. I get it, we all came here for the love of a man who touched us in so many ways we can't repay him and now he's gone. It's hurts. Unimaginably so. As P so often said U'll never change some ppls point of view and what they think is more so a reflection of themself. I'm a lover not a fighter. Atleast not a fighter in the sense I have to keep reiterating what I said to clairfy something before. Peace and love to ALL. As for me I'll go back to listening to Prince to cope by myself.

I happen to agree with you. I have seen people repeat their theories multiple times on multiple threads like we didn't see it the first dozen times. At some point it becomes less about Prince and more about trying to force their POV down everybody's throat and getting miffed when we don't marvel at their brilliance.

Bottom line is we are all working with the same scarce amount of information and therefore no one person's speculation is any more valid than yours is so don't let them get to you.

DMarieP said:

ACharmed1 said:

Hi to all, I'm new posting here but since P's passing found a strange comfort in the posts and family that's here. Thank U all, U've made me smile many times and brought a bit of clairty which is what I hope to do now. This "article" and I use that term loosely has done it for me I can't take anymore.

The term of addiction IMHO needs to stop with P. Dependency I can accept and understand. I have a lot of experience with the pain medications P was KNOWN to take. My mom has cancer, and many other issues, my dad has cancer, I have multiple health issues in which I have to take said meds. In addition I'm also a photographer, I've covered many live acts been around many artists and this notion that it's all there in his pupils is insane.

Go to the eye Dr what's 1 of the 1st things done? Shine a light in Ur eye to pin pupils. What do you see in his eyes in those photos? A light. The kind of lights used in photos shoots are harsh on eyes Ur eyes pin period. Same on stage, many performers I know wear sunglasses to block the stage lights/flash from cameras. If Ur around lights that intense long enough yeah, U'll wear sunglasses often.

Another thing about this article this person is an admitted addict. Sucking a fentanyl patch is addict behaviour. Having a Dr. that prescribes fentanyl for migraines and fibromyalgia is extremely suspect. That med is not easily given out. I get migraines too and never have I had a Dr. give me fentanyl for the pain.

I think it's important to remember that no matter what has been said this may have been P's first and only dose. No matter what though, it all comes down to chronic pain. I suffer from chronic pain as well and I've been in so much pain there have been times I literally prayed to God to take my life and give it to someone in need. When you hurt just to breathe and life holds very little pleasure or joy U lose hope, no matter how much of a fighter U are.

I wish ppl would start realising he took pain medication to control pain. That's it. Not an addict. It breaks my heart that this man who gave the world his all, took all kinds of hell for various things in his life is now being turned into some street urchin type pill popper and being made into a poster child for the drug epidemic in death. It's sickening.

I'm not a Dr., only a person who has had to use these meds, and NO I'm not an addict. Dependant on them to function on a daily basis at times? Yes, and there is no shame in that. As I said I only hope to offer some comfort to someone reading this, and hopefully some insight or understanding I can't stand P being ravaged like this. Sorry for the long post.

I agree 100%. Take a look at his performances even after he stopped jumping off of risers & doing splits. Hell, he was in pain and still busting his a** on stage for a long time. He was a consumate artist and couldn't not perform. I can't even imagine the pain he was in for so long. That pain became unbearable even with meds. You can't perform, vocalize, create, etc... getting high. The fentanyl was about pain and pain management.

Whitney Houston is just one example how chronic, hardcore drug dependancy and abuse ruined her God-given instrument and robbed her of the ability to perform on stage and in the studio.

so what..doesnt change what he gave us ..

luvsexy4all said:

so what..doesnt change what he gave us ..

I think you missed my point. I am agreeing that prolonged drug dependancy likely robs someone of the ability to create and perform music as prolifically as Prince, his gift and the rich musical legacy he shared with us. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

interesting article but there is a visible flash or bright light source reflecting off his eye in all three pics?

CROWNS1 said:

Interesting read. I've noticed the pupils in alot of photos too.

The pictures used in the articles are well lit... that means someone was literally shining a light in Princes eyes causing his pupils to constrict. That is not evidence of addiction. It's evidence there was someone "handling the lighting".

The final picture his pupils look perfectly normal, but the writer claims they're tiny. Which is frankly idiotic.

Clearly Prince was taking something, but I fail to see how posting PR shots and speculating about them helps anyone (with the exception of the blogger trying to drive traffic to their site).

CherryMoon57 said:

morningsong said:

Noodled24 said:

CROWNS1 said:

Interesting read. I've noticed the pupils in alot of photos too.

The pictures used in the articles are well lit... that means someone was literally shining a light in Princes eyes causing his pupils to constrict. That is not evidence of addiction. It's evidence there was someone "handling the lighting".

The final picture his pupils look perfectly normal, but the writer claims they're tiny. Which is frankly idiotic.

Clearly Prince was taking something, but I fail to see how posting PR shots and speculating about them helps anyone (with the exception of the blogger trying to drive traffic to their site).

Ring-ding....correct answer!

I thought I was the only one who thought his eyes looked perfectly normal in the last photo.

I am sooo over the flood of armchair analysts exploding across the innerwebs.

Dimitri10 said:

Bunsterdk said:

angel22 said: Exactly! This is the vibe I get too from the last 1-2 years. And I can't shake it either.

I noticed when he appeared on Arsenio Hall in 2014 something was wrong, he came out looking as if it was his last, then in person at the Australian shows it was the same, i'll never forget his face as he walked up to the crowd.

I've said this before. I think one of the things was he had gotten to a point in his life where maybe he regreted not having children and grandchildren in his life. A few years ago maybe it wasn't an issue, but he was getting close to 60. I believe a part of him wanted them, but it just wasn't in him to be a family man. He had a broken home at an early age. Family was foreign to him.

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Tresha68 said:

TurnItUp said:

NOBODY CAN MAKE HIM DO ANYTHING! He had to want to do it himself! We all wanted him to get better, he had to want to get better too. Plus I'm still not going with hip pain being the only pain he was dealing with.

I think he was terminally ill. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and the pain can be debilitating. I take Vicoprofen as needed for the past 10 years. This is not an addiction or a dependency, it is needed to literally function. If P was taking it every day, it would be the norm, HOWEVER without it he would have not been able to function.

My brother was an addict, he quit when he hit rock bottom. No one could help him. NO ONE. He has been clean and sober for 14 years. He never looked like P did in the end. Which makes me believe he did have an underlying issue, not just opiates. Perhaps he took his own life? Perhaps it was accidental, we will probably never know.

I would hope that his family releases the truth if he was gravely ill. No one is demeaning him. Addiction is an illness. Period. No one is above it.

I think his pain ran deeper than we imagine. Mentally and physically. He was greatly flawed and hurt a lot of people. That pain catches up with you later in life. Sometimes it is harder to bear than physical pain.

I wish him peace.

I think he was too Tresha68. I don't want to say the word again. I just know it can attack even the healthiest people. It doesn't pick and choose.

Baduizm said:

luvsexy4all said:

so what..doesnt change what he gave us ..

I think you missed my point. I am agreeing that prolonged drug dependancy likely robs someone of the ability to create and perform music as prolifically as Prince, his gift and the rich musical legacy he shared with us. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

if u think drug use would hinder his abilities ..u r wrong