First off I want to know how (although I get the feeling Susannah let him hear it), second will the public get a chance to hear it, and third there's no need to boast about it like that. [Edited 6/8/16 21:08pm]
So apparently Questlove got to hear 'Wally' http://twitter.com/questl...1366948864 First off I want to know how (although I get the feeling Susannah let him hear it), second will the public get a chance to hear it, and third there's no need to boast about it like that.
1. Nope. That's not how. 2. That's up to the estate/trust. If the heirs want $$$, then yes. Unless they release stuff in alphabetical order. Then no, most fans will never hear it. 3. He's not boasting. He's just being a fan of Prince. Just like every single day on this website when someone hears a new unreleased song for the first time. (See today's "Empty Room" thread.) Fans get excited and want to share. 4. Looks like Princevault needs to update this: http://www.princevault.co...itle=Wally .
Okay, it's likely he heard it some other way but I thought Prince wrote that about her so I figured he gave it to her, but then again Prince wouldn't do that lol. Either way, I wonder how it sounds? Is it as great as it was made out to be? [Edited 6/8/16 21:15pm]
Okay, it's likely he heard it some other way but I thought Prince wrote that about her so I figured he gave it to her, but then again Prince wouldn't do that lol. Either way, I wonder how it sounds? Is it as great as it was made out to be?
"Wally" was destroyed. He put it together, then added shit to it that shouldn't have been in it, wrecking it. Then told Susan Rogers to hit record and erase it. She wouldn't do it, so he did. It was re-recorded the next day for posterity and the vault, but even if that version is great, the original will never be heard, nor will the emotion in it. Not to that extent.
For me, it's one of the most raw and intense stories I've ever heard about Prince.
how on earth did he hears something that was destroyed? I don't believe it, maybe he heard a re-recorded version which wouldn't be the real version in any case.
Okay, it's likely he heard it some other way but I thought Prince wrote that about her so I figured he gave it to her, but then again Prince wouldn't do that lol. Either way, I wonder how it sounds? Is it as great as it was made out to be?
"Wally" was destroyed. He put it together, then added shit to it that shouldn't have been in it, wrecking it. Then told Susan Rogers to hit record and erase it. She wouldn't do it, so he did. It was re-recorded the next day for posterity and the vault, but even if that version is great, the original will never be heard, nor will the emotion in it. Not to that extent.
For me, it's one of the most raw and intense stories I've ever heard about Prince.
I too figured he heard the re-recorded version and not the original version. Either way the curiosity is still there.
Okay, it's likely he heard it some other way but I thought Prince wrote that about her so I figured he gave it to her, but then again Prince wouldn't do that lol. Either way, I wonder how it sounds? Is it as great as it was made out to be?
"Wally" was destroyed. He put it together, then added shit to it that shouldn't have been in it, wrecking it. Then told Susan Rogers to hit record and erase it. She wouldn't do it, so he did. It was re-recorded the next day for posterity and the vault, but even if that version is great, the original will never be heard, nor will the emotion in it. Not to that extent.
For me, it's one of the most raw and intense stories I've ever heard about Prince.
ya, won't be the same. Bruce Springsteen tried in vain to rerecord the badly recorded Nebraska tracks in the sterile confines of a real studio, he couldn't get the same feel that he got out of the home recorded tracks. Best they could do in the studio was add a couple overdubs.
Wow. just the fact that an actual version still exists is great news. i dont care if it isnt THE version. clearly he realized that it was a bad idea to have deleted it. or he stll needed to get some things off his chest.
"Where you are now is in a place that does not require time." - Rest In Power, PRINCE
"Wally" was destroyed. He put it together, then added shit to it that shouldn't have been in it, wrecking it. Then told Susan Rogers to hit record and erase it. She wouldn't do it, so he did. It was re-recorded the next day for posterity and the vault, but even if that version is great, the original will never be heard, nor will the emotion in it. Not to that extent.
For me, it's one of the most raw and intense stories I've ever heard about Prince.
I too figured he heard the re-recorded version and not the original version. Either way the curiosity is still there.
"Wally" was destroyed. He put it together, then added shit to it that shouldn't have been in it, wrecking it. Then told Susan Rogers to hit record and erase it. She wouldn't do it, so he did. It was re-recorded the next day for posterity and the vault, but even if that version is great, the original will never be heard, nor will the emotion in it. Not to that extent.
For me, it's one of the most raw and intense stories I've ever heard about Prince.
ya, won't be the same. Bruce Springsteen tried in vain to rerecord the badly recorded Nebraska tracks in the sterile confines of a real studio, he couldn't get the same feel that he got out of the home recorded tracks. Best they could do in the studio was add a couple overdubs.
Hence why nothing sounds like "Dirty Mind." Imagine if he had re-recorded that in say, the same sessions as 1999: The New Master. Good times.
Okay, it's likely he heard it some other way but I thought Prince wrote that about her so I figured he gave it to her, but then again Prince wouldn't do that lol. Either way, I wonder how it sounds? Is it as great as it was made out to be?
"Wally" was destroyed. He put it together, then added shit to it that shouldn't have been in it, wrecking it. Then told Susan Rogers to hit record and erase it. She wouldn't do it, so he did. It was re-recorded the next day for posterity and the vault, but even if that version is great, the original will never be heard, nor will the emotion in it. Not to that extent.
For me, it's one of the most raw and intense stories I've ever heard about Prince.
That just completely upends that story for me.
It's like if I started singing "Burn" while destroying all of my ex's texts, emails, chat client conversations, voicemail messages, mix cds with liner notes and then took care to physically destroy the actual hard drives.
And then five minutes later Siri says it's all in the "cloud" because of auto backups.
...Wait, would Prince have ever had a Prince specific cloud server?
Questlove heard the re-recorded version. But still - it's about the song in general at this point. The raw emotion of the day of the original is moot. Now, it's about the lyrics, the song itself, production, etc.
I want to know what the lyrics said. Because supposedly it was "the mist honest thing he had ever written" . Apparently he was saying he was being a pathetic manipulative person in the song. Prince like any other grown man in the occasion looked in the mirror and in this song expressed the truth about himself that he was a normal human being. We all do this in the occasion l, his outlet though was just music & the truth got recorded. But yes I wanna know hat he said because we never was allowed to see the real man, the imperfect man.
...because we never were allowed to see... the imperfect man.
Oh... I don't know about that.
Lol I'm not talking about those kinda imperfections. As I said before supposedly this song was showing himself as a jerk & manipulating people around him. Prince tried to always show his best side. Just once I would like to listen to the real person, not just the product.
I want to know what the lyrics said. Because supposedly it was "the mist honest thing he had ever written" . Apparently he was saying he was being a pathetic manipulative person in the song. Prince like any other grown man in the occasion looked in the mirror and in this song expressed the truth about himself that he was a normal human being. We all do this in the occasion l, his outlet though was just music & the truth got recorded. But yes I wanna know hat he said because we never was allowed to see the real man, the imperfect man.
Never heard wally but I have heard Prince hurt and vulnerable, when it's more than a device used for a song, it's devestating. Avalanche, Way Back Home and I Love You But I don't Trust You Anymore. all amongst my top Prince faves and all songs where he more or less drops any attempts to hide himself behind anything else. I'm sure he had his reasons for being so elusive in much of his work as in "The question of u" 'shall I become naked? no image at all?" I'm sure it was a protective thing but...the potency of when all bets were off and whatever he was feeling was so powerful that it made him abandon all that, some of his very best stuff. So, i can only assume Wally was from that same cloth.
I want to know what the lyrics said. Because supposedly it was "the mist honest thing he had ever written" . Apparently he was saying he was being a pathetic manipulative person in the song. Prince like any other grown man in the occasion looked in the mirror and in this song expressed the truth about himself that he was a normal human being. We all do this in the occasion l, his outlet though was just music & the truth got recorded. But yes I wanna know hat he said because we never was allowed to see the real man, the imperfect man.
Never heard wally but I have heard Prince hurt and vulnerable, when it's more than a device used for a song, it's devestating. Avalanche, Way Back Home and I Love You But I don't Trust You Anymore. all amongst my top Prince faves and all songs where he more or less drops any attempts to hide himself behind anything else. I'm sure he had his reasons for being so elusive in much of his work as in "The question of u" 'shall I become naked? no image at all?" I'm sure it was a protective thing but...the potency of when all bets were off and whatever he was feeling was so powerful that it made him abandon all that, some of his very best stuff. So, i can only assume Wally was from that same cloth.
Exactly. Which is why so little of the last 20 years captured the passion of the first ten. It happens. People get older. When you stay in the studio and record non-stop, tour non-stop, and don't live your life the way you did before you were so famous that you couldn't walk down the street-- don't allow yourself to be hurt -- stop allowing others to say no -- it becomes difficult to write about things that drip with passion. Hate. Love. Longing. Loss. Anger. Fear. There wasn't a lot of that in his music for a very long time. It came out mostly in the live performances. But not a lot on record. Once everyone wants you, wants to be you, you don't have to chase. You are no longer writing songs like "Something In The Water Does Not Compute."
I'm talking specifically songs like:
Listen to "Dark" from Stars & Bars. Don't know what got into him in that performance -- but again -- nothing like it on record in decades. Not that the music released during that time period isn't worthy of listening to. Just saying that folks are missing out when they say 20Ten is their favorite record. Or "Future Love Song" is their favorite song.
There was nothing like the Prince that would let him be vulnerable that way -- even if only briefly -- before screaming, or allowing the guitar to scream repeatedly for him. Just my two cents. .
I want to know what the lyrics said. Because supposedly it was "the mist honest thing he had ever written" . Apparently he was saying he was being a pathetic manipulative person in the song. Prince like any other grown man in the occasion looked in the mirror and in this song expressed the truth about himself that he was a normal human being. We all do this in the occasion l, his outlet though was just music & the truth got recorded. But yes I wanna know hat he said because we never was allowed to see the real man, the imperfect man.
Never heard wally but I have heard Prince hurt and vulnerable, when it's more than a device used for a song, it's devestating. Avalanche, Way Back Home and I Love You But I don't Trust You Anymore. all amongst my top Prince faves and all songs where he more or less drops any attempts to hide himself behind anything else. I'm sure he had his reasons for being so elusive in much of his work as in "The question of u" 'shall I become naked? no image at all?" I'm sure it was a protective thing but...the potency of when all bets were off and whatever he was feeling was so powerful that it made him abandon all that, some of his very best stuff. So, i can only assume Wally was from that same cloth.
Exactly. Which is why so little of the last 20 years captured the passion of the first ten. It happens. People get older. When you stay in the studio and record non-stop, tour non-stop, and don't live your life the way you did before you were so famous that you couldn't walk down the street-- don't allow yourself to be hurt -- stop allowing others to say no -- it becomes difficult to write about things that drip with passion. Hate. Love. Longing. Loss. Anger. Fear. There wasn't a lot of that in his music for a very long time. It came out mostly in the live performances. But not a lot on record. Once everyone wants you, wants to be you, you don't have to chase. You are no longer writing songs like "Something In The Water Does Not Compute."
I'm talking specifically songs like:
Listen to "Dark" from Stars & Bars. Don't know what got into him in that performance -- but again -- nothing like it on record in decades. Not that the music released during that time period isn't worthy of listening to. Just saying that folks are missing out when they say 20Ten is their favorite record. Or "Future Love Song" is their favorite song.
There was nothing like the Prince that would let him be vulnerable that way -- even if only briefly -- before screaming, or allowing the guitar to scream repeatedly for him. Just my two cents. .
[Edited 6/8/16 22:51pm]
I was on board with everything you said until you started ragging on Future Soul Song, which IMO, is one of his deepest cuts from any era. That song is a completely ethereal sonic experience!
So the original was detroyed and he re-recorded it and we now have Wally Reloaded, so what, at least we potentially will be able to hear the song someday, that's good enough for me.
If Quest didn't want people to ask, he should have never mentioned it. The (don't ask) cracks me up.
[Edited 6/9/16 4:45am]
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