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Thread started 06/03/16 5:11pm

ecnirp0421

Pop Life....we all need a thrill

Was Prince trying 2 tell something? Those lyrics r very ironic?
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Reply #1 posted 06/03/16 5:15pm

smoothcriminal
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The Prince of the 80's was a very different man compared to the Prince of the 2010's...

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Reply #2 posted 06/03/16 5:51pm

PeteSilas

ecnirp0421 said:

Was Prince trying 2 tell something? Those lyrics r very ironic?

different interpretations of the song but I know that one thing he was saying was that not everyone can be the star, a fact he mentioned again in the RS interview about the Time's breakup and how Jesse Johnson wanted to be the big cheese but didn't have the charisma of Morris. He also alluded to their drug habits at the time "whatcha puttin' in your nose, is that where all their money goes?" Morris had a bad coke habit that derailed his career and everyone blamed Prince at the time when it was most likely a lot of other issues. He's right about what he says though, if you look at things objectively, not everyone can be on top. that fact causes a lot of problems because everyone is trying to act like the guy on top. causes problems in the workplace, problems in society as people commit crimes trying to be more than what they are, all ideas fed to them since birth, the American Dream is really a lie for most people. Yet, we have a nation of privileged and entitled people, even our homeless think they are owed money, owed pity, owed a home. Prince was pretty deep and on target much of the time.

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Reply #3 posted 06/03/16 6:18pm

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What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???

Yes, yes he was. He was talking about drugs, and the downfall of them. Half of the song is about Morris Day's cocaine addiction.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #4 posted 06/03/16 7:56pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???


Way too many folks around here need to be repeatedly fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap

COMMON SENSE, PEOPLE! C'MON!

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Reply #5 posted 06/03/16 7:59pm

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suomynona said:

TrivialPursuit said:

What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???


Way too many folks around here need to be repeatedly fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap

COMMON SENSE, PEOPLE! C'MON!


I mean, in "Letitgo" he says "Better off dead if I couldn't be alone". That was how many years ago? Was he "telling us something" then?? Yeesh.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #6 posted 06/03/16 8:05pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

suomynona said:


Way too many folks around here need to be repeatedly fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap fishslap

COMMON SENSE, PEOPLE! C'MON!


I mean, in "Letitgo" he says "Better off dead if I couldn't be alone". That was how many years ago? Was he "telling us something" then?? Yeesh.


We need an entire thread of ALL of the dumbass theories for his lyrics, so we don't have to see ten new ones every day.

I mean, we all know he died because Tony M shitty rapped Prince to death. And Prince predicted it in DEAD ON IT. Folks read it in the Daily Mail and Carrot Top even said it on TMZ.

How is there not a :smh: emoticon?
You know, Elvis is still alive. He killed Prince because of "Face Down." fishslap

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Reply #7 posted 06/03/16 8:39pm

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suomynona said:

You know, Elvis is still alive. He killed Prince because of "Face Down." fishslap


Michael Jackson produced it, and that's Whitney's vocal sample.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #8 posted 06/03/16 8:42pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???

Yes, yes he was. He was talking about drugs, and the downfall of them. Half of the song is about Morris Day's cocaine addiction.

Well, I know what Prince was trying to tell me in 1985 and it wasn't about death and dying. wink

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #9 posted 06/03/16 8:45pm

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I think Prince was trying to tell us something in just about every song he sang.

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Reply #10 posted 06/04/16 12:32am

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TrivialPursuit said:

What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???

Yes, yes he was. He was talking about drugs, and the downfall of them. Half of the song is about Morris Day's cocaine addiction.



wait hold up...Morris was an addict?
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Reply #11 posted 06/04/16 12:54am

PeteSilas

nursev said:

TrivialPursuit said:

What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???

Yes, yes he was. He was talking about drugs, and the downfall of them. Half of the song is about Morris Day's cocaine addiction.

wait hold up...Morris was an addict?

ya, he had a bad coke habit, as for the rest of the time, i wouldn't know. But Morris had problems with coke, in the book Poplife, Pepe Willie was quoted saying that he Morris couldn't even pay his rent at one point.

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Reply #12 posted 06/04/16 12:55am

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ecnirp0421 said:

Was Prince trying 2 tell something? Those lyrics r very ironic?

don't worry ecnirp, I believe artists are in touch with the metaphysical and that they do tell us things, even across decades. Elvis told his whole story before his career even properly started with the brillaint "Mystery Train".

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Reply #13 posted 06/04/16 12:56am

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nursev said:

TrivialPursuit said:

What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???

Yes, yes he was. He was talking about drugs, and the downfall of them. Half of the song is about Morris Day's cocaine addiction.

wait hold up...Morris was an addict?

Oh yeah, he had a big coke habit back in the day. He and Vanity used to snort it together.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #14 posted 06/04/16 1:14am

nursev

PeteSilas said:



nursev said:


TrivialPursuit said:

What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???

Yes, yes he was. He was talking about drugs, and the downfall of them. Half of the song is about Morris Day's cocaine addiction.



wait hold up...Morris was an addict?

ya, he had a bad coke habit, as for the rest of the time, i wouldn't know. But Morris had problems with coke, in the book Poplife, Pepe Willie was quoted saying that he Morris couldn't even pay his rent at one point.


wow...so the rabbit hole goes deep. that's serious when u can't pay rent eek
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Reply #15 posted 06/04/16 1:15am

nursev

purplethunder3121 said:



nursev said:


TrivialPursuit said:

What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???

Yes, yes he was. He was talking about drugs, and the downfall of them. Half of the song is about Morris Day's cocaine addiction.



wait hold up...Morris was an addict?

Oh yeah, he had a big coke habit back in the day. He and Vanity used to snort it together.



my goodness...so almost all of em were on it...sad.
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Reply #16 posted 06/04/16 6:22am

ecnirp0421

PeteSilas said:



ecnirp0421 said:


Was Prince trying 2 tell something? Those lyrics r very ironic?

different interpretations of the song but I know that one thing he was saying was that not everyone can be the star, a fact he mentioned again in the RS interview about the Time's breakup and how Jesse Johnson wanted to be the big cheese but didn't have the charisma of Morris. He also alluded to their drug habits at the time "whatcha puttin' in your nose, is that where all their money goes?" Morris had a bad coke 73rdhabit that derailed his career and everyone blamed Prince at the time when it was most likely a lot of other issues. He's right about what he says though, if you look at things objectively, not everyone can be on top. that fact causes a lot of problems because everyone is trying to act like the guy on top. causes problems in the workplace, problems in society as people commit crimes trying to be more than what they are, all ideas fed to them since birth, the American Dream is really a lie for most people. Yet, we have a nation of privileged and entitled people, even our homeless think they are owed money, owed pity, owed a home. Prince was pretty deep and on target much of the time.

wow! I never knew that. It makes a lot of since.
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Reply #17 posted 06/04/16 6:38am

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nursev said:

purplethunder3121 said:



nursev said:


TrivialPursuit said:

What the heck is it with all the "was he trying to tell us something?" IN 1985???

Yes, yes he was. He was talking about drugs, and the downfall of them. Half of the song is about Morris Day's cocaine addiction.



wait hold up...Morris was an addict?

Oh yeah, he had a big coke habit back in the day. He and Vanity used to snort it together.



my goodness...so almost all of em were on it...sad.

I was the mid 80's. I think the whole country was on it.
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Reply #18 posted 06/04/16 7:39am

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BobGeorge909 said:

nursev said:
my goodness...so almost all of em were on it...sad.
I was the mid 80's. I think the whole country was on it.

Well, not the whole country... But, there was a national epidemic. I lived in Florida at the time and coke was everywhere. I even saw people snort it before work.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #19 posted 06/04/16 7:47am

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Folks, Prince foretold nothing with his lyrics, I will never understand the psychology behind forcing these lyrics to actually mean something, as if we would all feel better if he knew this was going to happen. He did NOT know this was going to happen, he did not foretell anything in his lyrics, any correlation is mere coincidence. Prince I am sure was as shocked as the rest of us that he left this world so early.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #20 posted 06/04/16 7:53am

Camille2016

There was a thread the other day asking us how Prince's music will be perceived in 100 or 200 years from now...

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...it looks like folks are already laying the path for him to become the future's Nostradamus.

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Prince was a musician. A talented musician. I firmly believe he was a genius.

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He was not a fortune teller.

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The conspiracy stuff is weirding me out.

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Reply #21 posted 06/04/16 7:59am

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Camille2016 said:

There was a thread the other day asking us how Prince's music will be perceived in 100 or 200 years from now...

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...it looks like folks are already laying the path for him to become the future's Nostradamus.

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Prince was a musician. A talented musician. I firmly believe he was a genius.

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He was not a fortune teller.

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The conspiracy stuff is weirding me out.

It was bound to happen... confused

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #22 posted 06/04/16 11:38am

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purplethunder3121 said:



BobGeorge909 said:


nursev said:
my goodness...so almost all of em were on it...sad.

I was the mid 80's. I think the whole country was on it.

Well, not the whole country... But, there was a national epidemic. I lived in Florida at the time and coke was everywhere. I even saw people snort it before work.


Ur right. I was exaggerating. But yes, there was a huge explosion or it in the 80's. Not everyone was on it, but I was seeing it's highest per capita use since...well...since forever.
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Reply #23 posted 06/04/16 2:56pm

TrivialPursuit

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nursev said:


wow...so the rabbit hole goes deep. that's serious when u can't pay rent eek


Ergo the lyrics:

What you putting in your nose?
Is that where all your money goes (is that where your money goes)
The river of addiction flows
You think it's hot, but there won't be no water
When the fire blows
Dig it


He also references (although I dont know if this verse is about Morris):

Is the poverty bringing you down?
Is the mailman jerking you 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?

So yeah, anti-drug song.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #24 posted 06/04/16 5:46pm

PeteSilas

TrivialPursuit said:

nursev said:


wow...so the rabbit hole goes deep. that's serious when u can't pay rent eek


Ergo the lyrics:

What you putting in your nose?
Is that where all your money goes (is that where your money goes)
The river of addiction flows
You think it's hot, but there won't be no water
When the fire blows
Dig it


He also references (although I dont know if this verse is about Morris):

Is the poverty bringing you down?
Is the mailman jerking you 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?

So yeah, anti-drug song.

some people thought the whole song was one of condescension, I don't agree. I don't think he was gloating over the fact that he was onee of the lucky ones. I believe the song is patently about how people are never happy and satisfied with what they have, they always feel like they deserve more.

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Reply #25 posted 06/06/16 4:16pm

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PeteSilas said:

TrivialPursuit said:

So yeah, anti-drug song.

some people thought the whole song was one of condescension, I don't agree. I don't think he was gloating over the fact that he was onee of the lucky ones. I believe the song is patently about how people are never happy and satisfied with what they have, they always feel like they deserve more.

Yes,i agree.

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