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Thread started 06/06/16 12:51pm

soladeo1

Black Sweat should have been a bigger hit...

Just watched the video after a couple years... Fun song, hot video... I think this was really Prince's last real swing for Top 40 Singles relevance but yet it didn't do too well, from what I recall.
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Reply #1 posted 06/06/16 12:57pm

jdcxc

I agree, but I can never predict hits. It's a unique unknown formula. I thought AOA was going to be a commercial comeback of sorts.

The bottom line is that the crappy pop music market is controlled by a few large companies selling products to young people.
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Reply #2 posted 06/06/16 1:31pm

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It's a hit on my personal chart, that's really all that matters right? What it means to the individual and not the masses.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #3 posted 06/06/16 1:34pm

CROWNS1

Love this song.

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Reply #4 posted 06/06/16 1:35pm

Guitarhero

Love the song and video.

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Reply #5 posted 06/06/16 1:45pm

Identity

The awkward lyric about inducing someone to ''scream like a White lady" on the count of three baffled many people. I dug it, however. razz

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Reply #6 posted 06/06/16 1:47pm

all7even

I didn't appreciate this song until last year
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Reply #7 posted 06/06/16 1:58pm

nonames

Something (his divorce, I guess) happened just before the launch of 3121 which haulted all the promotion. I remember someone posting a list of all the things which were lined up before the album was out, but after the (excellent) SNL performance nothing happened for weeks. I think both the album and the song could have done a lot better if he had tried a bit harder, but I guess life got in the way..

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Reply #8 posted 06/06/16 2:08pm

mtlfan

nonames said:

Something (his divorce, I guess) happened just before the launch of 3121 which haulted all the promotion. I remember someone posting a list of all the things which were lined up before the album was out, but after the (excellent) SNL performance nothing happened for weeks. I think both the album and the song could have done a lot better if he had tried a bit harder, but I guess life got in the way..

If I remember correctly, he didn't play this song (the lead single from 3121) on SNL or American Idol, maybe because he was trying to sell the album instead of the song. As for the "scream like a white lady" bit, I thought that was the best lyric, but although whites love jamming to black music, sometimes a song like "Say It Loud (I'm Black and I'm Proud)," where the song is explicitly about being black, makes it hard for whites - the racial subgroup with the most buying power - to identify. Which doesn't remotely explain why "Black Sweat" did better on the pop chart than the R&B chart - I really do think this has more to do with youth than race. Case in point: it went to #2 in Canada (?)

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Reply #9 posted 06/06/16 2:08pm

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It was on 106 & Park for a while. So the young crowd was digging it.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Reply #10 posted 06/06/16 2:10pm

mtlfan

And as I wrote before, this song went over better than everything else he played in his sampler set at Muzique in March - it connected with a mixed-age, mixed-race crowd. I'd say it was the high-pitched synth that stopped it from being a bigger hit, but it was the synth hook everyone seemed to love.

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Reply #11 posted 06/06/16 2:17pm

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I love this song !!! This is the video and song that sealed the deal with me for Prince. I was only a casual fan up until then (was big into Madonna prior) but the instant I saw that video I was hooked - and obsessed ever since. The song and video are smooth and funky and his expressions are wonderful. This song holds a special place in my heart (as does he, even if my heart feels broken right now)

Thank you Prince for every note you left behind 💜
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Reply #12 posted 06/06/16 2:18pm

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the beat was SICK

i think maybe the song got repetitive after the first verse/chorus and doesnt ever 'build' for lack of a better word?

but yes, WTF happened after 3121 came out.. FURY was on fire on SNL... Lolita was a little 'off' for me on AI.. but he didnt really promote this one well.

I mean, I thought Black Sweat and Fury were going to be HUGE

and Fury pretty much disappeared after SNL

WTF?!

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Reply #13 posted 06/06/16 2:51pm

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It's hard to describe the feeling I get listening to Black Sweat. The musical setting is ultra-cold and minimalist, those synth lines and those beats should be the opposite of warmth and make you think of a clinical, steely place, but somehow with the vocals and all the touches, it becomes a hot sexy song...

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Reply #14 posted 06/06/16 2:55pm

SPYZFAN1

VH-1 Soul used to play this video a lot. This was one of the last hittin', ol' school P "funk" joints I loved by him.

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Reply #15 posted 06/06/16 3:07pm

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soladeo1 said:

Just watched the video after a couple years... Fun song, hot video... I think this was really Prince's last real swing for Top 40 Singles relevance but yet it didn't do too well, from what I recall.


I've always hated that song. Most of 3121 was beneath Prince's talent as a songwriter and musician. Black Sweat was just too "easy" and sounded like every manufactured modern song that Prince spoke out against for years. It felt like lazy writing considering Prince's talent.
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Reply #16 posted 06/06/16 4:19pm

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That song came out when I was in middle school. My mum gifted me the album in purple wrapping paper the day it came out as she did every P album. I ran upstairs and saw it on my bed. I listened to the first few tracks and this song came on. I WAS HOOKED. Me and two more of my friends used to scream this song in the gym while we were running. LOL Such great memories. We had a local music station called IMC back then and they played it EVERY morning. It was the first thing I watched before catching the bus. Still love it. So funky!!! I flipped when I found out the girl in the video was Yoruba. His expressions in the video... Priceless
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Reply #17 posted 06/06/16 4:27pm

Adorecream

I agreeable, irresistable pop hook, lusty sexualised lyrix and a cool video to boot. This was Kiss reloaded, a perfect song and where did it get like number 90 or something. I mean its a million time better than the shit hop and white boy douche bag rock groups like Maroon 5 and One Republic dominating the charts then along with the skanky Shakira type ho singers.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #18 posted 06/06/16 4:31pm

HeavenMustBNea
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Adorecream said:

I agreeable, irresistable pop hook, lusty sexualised lyrix and a cool video to boot. This was Kiss reloaded, a perfect song and where did it get like number 90 or something. I mean its a million time better than the shit hop and white boy douche bag rock groups like Maroon 5 and One Republic dominating the charts then along with the skanky Shakira type ho singers.




But, how do you really feel? lol
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Reply #19 posted 06/06/16 5:02pm

Junglehop

What are you guys talking about?!

3121 went to No. 1 in the US! …in fact it was the only Prince album ever to debut at number one on the Billboard charts.

I always recall it being his big comeback album of the 2000s era, building on the momentum generated by the Musicology album.

Sure, Black Sweat oddly showed no momentum on the charts but 2006 was a weird time for 'singles'… people weren't buying CD singles anymore and digital sales didn't have the numbers they do now.

…maybe the album went to No. 1 on the strength of Black Sweat anyway?

No doubt it is a KILLER track!
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Reply #20 posted 06/06/16 5:09pm

homesquid

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Agreed. One of his best tracks post 1993. Neither Prince nor record company pushed it at radio. It was like they just left it up to the video to make it a hit. When he left WB the hits stopped. He had such a huge success with TMBGITW he thought he could do it himself. There are a couple dozen Prince songs that should have charted. Had "The One You Wanna See" been released in the 80s/early 90s it would have been Top 10.

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Reply #21 posted 06/06/16 5:13pm

mtlfan

HeavenMustBNear said:

That song came out when I was in middle school. My mum gifted me the album in purple wrapping paper the day it came out as she did every P album. I ran upstairs and saw it on my bed. I listened to the first few tracks and this song came on. I WAS HOOKED. Me and two more of my friends used to scream this song in the gym while we were running. LOL Such great memories. We had a local music station called IMC back then and they played it EVERY morning. It was the first thing I watched before catching the bus. Still love it. So funky!!! I flipped when I found out the girl in the video was Yoruba. His expressions in the video... Priceless

You have a cool mom.

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Reply #22 posted 06/06/16 5:41pm

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Guitarhero said:


Love the song and video.



I have the video bookmarked. I probably watch it once a day because it makes me feel better when I start to get bummed-out about the whole 'situation'. The part (from this GIF) makes me laugh every time!
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Reply #23 posted 06/06/16 7:49pm

HeavenMustBNea
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mtlfan said:



HeavenMustBNear said:


That song came out when I was in middle school. My mum gifted me the album in purple wrapping paper the day it came out as she did every P album. I ran upstairs and saw it on my bed. I listened to the first few tracks and this song came on. I WAS HOOKED. Me and two more of my friends used to scream this song in the gym while we were running. LOL Such great memories. We had a local music station called IMC back then and they played it EVERY morning. It was the first thing I watched before catching the bus. Still love it. So funky!!! I flipped when I found out the girl in the video was Yoruba. His expressions in the video... Priceless

You have a cool mom.



Thanks! I sure do
cool I was bummed when I didn't get that golden ticket though... Dang!!! I'm still hurt ova that mad lol
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Reply #24 posted 06/06/16 7:57pm

Adore27

I found this video on YouTube the other day. I forgot how much I loved it. I've watched it a ton the past couple days. He's darn hot in it, too.
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Reply #25 posted 06/06/16 8:04pm

DarlingKris

This is one of my favorite Prince songs/videos. This was the video that made me realize how sexy he was and made my 16 year old hormones go crazy

Forever In My Life, forever in my heart. I love you Prince Rogers Nelson heart
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Reply #26 posted 06/06/16 8:15pm

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Guitarhero said:


Love the song and video.


smile much needed especially today sad
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Reply #27 posted 06/06/16 8:51pm

PurpleDiamonds
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I always loved that song...and many others that never get any radio play time....
IMHO ...Still think who ever controls the music (crap) that does get played on the radio is still not happy with the WB dispute.
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Reply #28 posted 06/07/16 12:07am

RODSERLING

In fact BLACKSWEAT went to #1 in the USA with 11.000 physical copies sold.

It sold so much because Prince didn’t want it to be released on I tunes. At that time, physical sales were very low but still counted on BB hot 100.

But BLACKSWEAT wasn’t on the top 75 airplay, so it couldn’t chart more than one week on the top 100.

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Reply #29 posted 06/07/16 5:41am

carlluv

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It should have been a hit, but when was the last time a Prince record got played on top 40 radio. back in 93 with tmbgitw.
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