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Reply #90 posted 06/11/16 8:39am

NinaB

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@djThunderfunk ~ Agreed, the lack of objectivity from both camps is tiring but I'll take it over sensorship 2.
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"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #91 posted 06/11/16 8:39am

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Guitarhero said:

TO trolls, get back to your relationship with your blow up doll. tonk


lol
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #92 posted 06/11/16 12:38pm

PeteSilas

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I find that syncophants that labeled every move Prince made a "masterpiece" to be at least as annoying as the haters who haven't liked anything from the past 20 years. The lack of objectivity from both camps is tiring.

The first group blindly defended Prince even when his actions were undefendable. And let's face it, he went way beyond protecting his copyrights. More than once he used bully tactics to shut people down who were not directly responsible for bootlegs. Not cool.

The second group is just sad. If someone truly hasn't enjoyed any of the music for 2 decades, then why the hell would they torture themselves by paying attention to it? For example, I love Beck's first 4 or 5 commecial albums, but I hate all the moody, emo, whiny crap he's put out the past decade. Do I go to beck.org everyday to complain or to tell all the fans that he sucks now? No. I just don't listen to the music I don't like. When he puts out an album I listen to it once and when I don't find anything I like that's it. Maybe one day he'll put out something I like, maybe he won't. Who cares, I'll be jamming to Midnite Vultures.

Just sayin', ignore the extremists whether they be trolls or not. I'd rather extremists be allowed to spew nonsense than to see censorship in the name of keeping things civil. wink

seemed that the trolls vastly outnumbered the syncophants and they weren't vile, I mean we had one on here that I joked with I said "prince could pee right on my head and you'd defend him". She didn't even get mad. Now, the trolls were just mean and petty, those are the ones that I haven't been seeing a whole lot on here.

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Reply #93 posted 06/11/16 4:34pm

nursev

NinaB said:

nursev said:

Ive been on this site for 13 years and they have always been here. It amazes me how a person can waste so much time and energy talking about someone's work that they dont like. I mean people use to come here daily just to talk bad about Prince or those that were so obnoxious that its obvious they were probably working for Prince's camp because they couldnt be objective about anything. So I guess we had them both here along time...the trolls and the ass kissers lol

Yes. Two extreme polarities. haters & sycophants. That's exactly what kept most of my posting to GD. Wished I'd of posted more in PM&M when I heard he was on here a lot, to add to the middle ground peeps more. The smart arseness put me off too.

U just couldnt win lol it was either "I hate every damn thing Prince ever did" or "Every damn thing is a Masterpiece" lol I tried to hang in there though, but they made it real hard.

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Reply #94 posted 06/11/16 4:35pm

nursev

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When I see the trolls anywhere online, it always reminds me of a documentary I saw. They tracked down this guy, who was trolling Mothers of murdered sons in America disbelief He was from England. They chased him/shoved the camera in his face as he got off the bus in some dead stop little village. Pathetic looking he was, cowering, had nothing smart to say when they ambushed his pitiful ugly arse. Yet that waste of space made those Mothers lives across the ocean a misery. [Edited 6/11/16 0:53am]

wow he took trolldom to a new level...sad

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Reply #95 posted 06/11/16 5:53pm

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I usually tell people, "Listen, you can hate on Prince all you want, but I guarantee you that every musician you do like, regardless of whatever type of music they play, think he is the baddest mutherfucker on the planet!"
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Reply #96 posted 06/11/16 6:18pm

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PeteSilas said:

who knows? but more than likely, their own issues. Projections or their own failures, frustrations and dashed hopes. Like a comedian with hecklers, every celeb has to deal with them, most celebs are pretty out of touch with that though. Bruce Springsteen has some pretty critical fans, I really never, ever got the impression he gave much thought to them. Outside of the song My Best Was Never Good Enough, he has never really seemed to give it much thought. Why would he? he has a family, all the riches he needs, plenty of adulation and accomplishements. Prince though, from what we're hearing, did watch this site and it's not like it's such an expansive site that he wouldn't have seen the negativity. I'm just glad I was mostly positive in the things I said and if I was critical it wasn't out of any kind of insane jealousy or wierdness.

My guess as to partly what happened in recent years is the trolls drove a lot of the reasoned, reasonable fans away. I've seen tons of people posting in the past few weeks saying they haven't posted here in years because of the toxic trolls. Schoolyard bullies all over the internet wink

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Reply #97 posted 06/11/16 8:11pm

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[Snip - luv4u]

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Reply #98 posted 06/11/16 10:07pm

wayhome

I have been here since 1999.

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Reply #99 posted 06/12/16 1:46am

SoulAlive

the simple answer: ignore them

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Reply #100 posted 06/12/16 1:59am

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nursev said:



NinaB said:


nursev said:

Ive been on this site for 13 years and they have always been here. It amazes me how a person can waste so much time and energy talking about someone's work that they dont like. I mean people use to come here daily just to talk bad about Prince or those that were so obnoxious that its obvious they were probably working for Prince's camp because they couldnt be objective about anything. So I guess we had them both here along time...the trolls and the ass kissers lol



Yes. Two extreme polarities. haters & sycophants. That's exactly what kept most of my posting to GD. Wished I'd of posted more in PM&M when I heard he was on here a lot, to add to the middle ground peeps more. The smart arseness put me off too.

U just couldnt win lol it was either "I hate every damn thing Prince ever did" or "Every damn thing is a Masterpiece" lol I tried to hang in there though, but they made it real hard.


You did good wink especially all the lovely piccys biggrin
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #101 posted 06/12/16 2:05am

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nursev said:



NinaB said:


When I see the trolls anywhere online, it always reminds me of a documentary I saw. They tracked down this guy, who was trolling Mothers of murdered sons in America disbelief He was from England. They chased him/shoved the camera in his face as he got off the bus in some dead stop little village. Pathetic looking he was, cowering, had nothing smart to say when they ambushed his pitiful ugly arse. Yet that waste of space made those Mothers lives across the ocean a misery. [Edited 6/11/16 0:53am]

wow he took trolldom to a new level...sad


My goodness, the whole documentary was sooo much worse than my little break down. Rage inducing & heartbreaking all at once. He was so relentless & 'powerful' online, but when they caught up with him...the fucker ran. Looked like he was missing a chromosome. He's what I see when I come across punks online.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #102 posted 06/12/16 2:08am

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jonnymon said:

I usually tell people, "Listen, you can hate on Prince all you want, but I guarantee you that every musician you do like, regardless of whatever type of music they play, think he is the baddest mutherfucker on the planet!"

True lol
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #103 posted 06/12/16 4:18pm

AlgeriaTouchsh
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What I fear the most is an entire army of self replicating opinion shells - I told my friend Roger that we are being held in a holding pattern of infinite feedback opinion loops, and one Prince interview a year later confirmed this: "it's a feedback loop". Yes, thank you Prince for confirming this for me.

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Information as a puppet string for the internet camera enabled.

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Could do troll research with a special hat that picks up electrical activity in the brain - "here is some information we would like you to disseminate to the internet, but we are recording your brain's electrical impulses while you redivulge that information in your own unique way."

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Like a Haruki Murakami novel

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Or a towel full of poetry - youtube is a cesspit.

i wish i'd never kissed your lips, bearded lady
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Reply #104 posted 06/12/16 10:21pm

nursev

NinaB said:

nursev said:



NinaB said:


nursev said:

Ive been on this site for 13 years and they have always been here. It amazes me how a person can waste so much time and energy talking about someone's work that they dont like. I mean people use to come here daily just to talk bad about Prince or those that were so obnoxious that its obvious they were probably working for Prince's camp because they couldnt be objective about anything. So I guess we had them both here along time...the trolls and the ass kissers lol



Yes. Two extreme polarities. haters & sycophants. That's exactly what kept most of my posting to GD. Wished I'd of posted more in PM&M when I heard he was on here a lot, to add to the middle ground peeps more. The smart arseness put me off too.

U just couldnt win lol it was either "I hate every damn thing Prince ever did" or "Every damn thing is a Masterpiece" lol I tried to hang in there though, but they made it real hard.


You did good wink especially all the lovely piccys biggrin



I hope Prince liked them wink
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Reply #105 posted 06/12/16 10:23pm

nursev

NinaB said:

nursev said:



NinaB said:


When I see the trolls anywhere online, it always reminds me of a documentary I saw. They tracked down this guy, who was trolling Mothers of murdered sons in America disbelief He was from England. They chased him/shoved the camera in his face as he got off the bus in some dead stop little village. Pathetic looking he was, cowering, had nothing smart to say when they ambushed his pitiful ugly arse. Yet that waste of space made those Mothers lives across the ocean a misery. [Edited 6/11/16 0:53am]

wow he took trolldom to a new level...sad


My goodness, the whole documentary was sooo much worse than my little break down. Rage inducing & heartbreaking all at once. He was so relentless & 'powerful' online, but when they caught up with him...the fucker ran. Looked like he was missing a chromosome. He's what I see when I come across punks online.


most trolls probably look like that lol
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Reply #106 posted 06/12/16 10:24pm

nursev

jonnymon said:

I usually tell people, "Listen, you can hate on Prince all you want, but I guarantee you that every musician you do like, regardless of whatever type of music they play, think he is the baddest mutherfucker on the planet!"


indeed he was
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