username00 said:

Hopefully we will all find out about the truth in due time. Until then, Prince is who you've known him to be before this past March. If he didn't share something with us directly via songs, interviews, social media, etc...., then it's questionable, moreso after March and April, with reports floading left and right with he said/she said... [Edited 6/5/16 23:20pm]

Or just take of your "pretty" glasses and realise that everyone, no matter their achievements and status, is still human.

morningsong said:

It may be worth noting that not everything Prince said in song was true. He sang about his Dad blowing his head off with a shotgun and also about fucking his sister.

Arunas said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Gorkerina said:

username00 said:

morningsong said:

I get what you're saying but to be honest something in this statement is making me feel extremely uncomfortable.
[Edited 6/5/16 23:22pm]

Everything surrounding his passing is extremely uncomfortable he was definitely right to say the same in 1995 about getting the accurate information about him directly from him.

username00 said:

username00 said:

Arunas said:

Or just take of your "pretty" glasses and realise that everyone, no matter their achievements and status, is still human.

"...(continued) and deserves to be treated as such, humanely. Those who have gone before us deserve nothing but the truth being told as it relates to them, in a respectful and dignified way. If that's wearing "pretty" glasses, then so be it.

What are you people so worked up about? The man was in pain, he took medicine. We got our tox results, apprarently he was in more pain than we thought, so he took a bit too much this time.

We've seen lots of reports prior and after the results, everyone is doing their jobs, whether they are good or bad its what the tabloids do. And why would you even care whats said about him? Prince didn't care while he was alive and sure as hell he didn't care whats going to happen after his passing. Get over it.

With Prince's habit for misleading with his comments (outright lying at times), I'd say believe nothing - ESPECIALLY what Prince himself said.

username00 said:

Hopefully we will all find out about the truth in due time. Until then, Prince is who you've known him to be before this past March. If he didn't share something with us directly via songs, interviews, social media, etc...., then it's questionable, moreso after March and April, with reports floading left and right with he said/she said... [Edited 6/5/16 23:20pm]

Prince lied a lot.

I generally just believe what resonates with me and makes sense. I loved his music and I can't even pretend to have known him, regardless of what the media or Prince himself said. His music hit my core, and that is what matters to me. As long as he wasn't a pedophile/murderer/whatever, none of the rest matters to me. He was human. Humans make mistakes, humans get diseases (not saying he had a disease), humans suffer with pain and most humans will always try to project a better picture of themselves than what goes on inside. Prince was in the public eye and every 'flaw' was going to be dissected and disseminated. Imagine how awful that would be for anyone, let alone someone that so desperately craved privacy. Anyway, what I believe is that Prince needed help, but chose to hide his issues instead of getting the help he needed (because there are cameras everywhere.).

morningsong said:

username00 said:

morningsong said:

I get what you're saying but to be honest something in this statement is making me feel extremely uncomfortable. [Edited 6/5/16 23:22pm]

Everything surrounding his passing is extremely uncomfortable he was definitely right to say the same in 1995 about getting the accurate information about him directly from him.

Idk. in a 1990 Prince interview he said he did not fire Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, he never retracted that statement. He said 'It was Morris band'

username00 said:

username00 said:

Hopefully we will all find out about the truth in due time. Until then, Prince is who you've known him to be before this past March. If he didn't share something with us directly via songs, interviews, social media, etc...., then it's questionable, moreso after March and April, with reports floading left and right with he said/she said...

You're living in an illusion. Remove your purple tinted glasses, and focus.

We have found out a lot of truths.

We knew well before he died that Prince needed hip surgery, or was suffering from something in that area. (When's the last time you saw him do the splits?) That's the truth.

He died in late April, so I'm not sure if the March reference. Did he just not existed for 6 weeks?

A lot of his songs were fictional stories. Do you think he was having a holiday by himself when he wrote "Another Lonely Christmas", and lamented that in a b-side track? So again, if you rely 100% of the music for the truth, you live in an altered state. Doesn't mean Prince was a liar - it means that not every song is a based on a true story. That's the truth.

Science doesn't lie. How he died wasn't hard to figure out once the samples were taken. It was just a waiting game. Prince's toxicology (who else sings that word like "Musicology" or has at least once - fess up) is true. Fentanyl overdose killed him. That's the truth.

How he got all those drugs, and further investigation is still ongoing, and that will reveal more truth.

All these other lollipops and their conjecture, or romantizing his death ("his body just broke down", "he knew he was going to die; he was trying to tell us something") is sickening to me, and disrespectful.

The truth is harsh sometimes, but it will set you free. Free from hallucination and delusion, guessing, conspiracy, and supposition. You can't play the slot machines, and expect to win at Blackjack.

username00 said:

Prince's story belongs to Prince; it was for him to tell it as he saw fit. He publicly urged us not to not repeat the same mistakes that he made, which tells a lot on the man himself and his ability to evolve in a positive way. He wasn't the same, and he was getting even better with time as a person. At times we've all lied in the past/present, and we've all said the truth too. I choose to believe what he said to be his true reality in recent years (esp. 2015 onwards). This kind of respect too, he deserves.

You do know that Prince has no say now. His narrative is in the hands of those he's left behind. And there's a whole lot hands involved right now. The whole he was evolving is questionable in light of what he was honestly dealing with. If it comforts you to believe whatever than so be it, but the whole pedestal thing is getting disturbing and I don't believe respectful.

NME: What about drugs? Do you take drugs?

: I am interested in all experiences.

There it is, from the horse's mouth. He wasn't completely averse to using drugs, back in 1995. Only he knows how frequently or infrequently he used them throughout the years.

http://princetext.tripod....nme95.html

morningsong said:

TheEnglishGent said:

sumtymes said:

morningsong said:

You do know that Prince has no say now. His narrative is in the hands of those he's left behind. And there's a whole lot hands involved right now. The whole he was evolving is questionable in light of what he was honestly dealing with. If it comforts you to believe whatever than so be it, but the whole pedestal thing is getting disturbing and I don't believe respectful.

His legacy is partially in our hands and he does deserve respect I agree he was evolving to be a better person not perfect but better and although many of us still miss the ultra sexy and ultra daring side of ourman he had mellowed and matured like fine wine Hats off and much respect given

What I said must have not been understandable at all. I think he deserves respect the way he has shown how he wants to be shown respect. I personally think putting him up in a overly gloifying way is not respectful to him.

TheEnglishGent said:

also about fucking his sister.

.......uuummmmmm you sure?

TheEnglishGent said:

It may be worth noting that not everything Prince said in song was true. He sang about his Dad blowing his head off with a shotgun and also about fucking his sister.

Even in interviews that he gave, he wasn't always truthful, said what he wanted us to believe, whether true or not. I think he just wanted things to look his version of perfect.

keenly said:

username00 said:

Hopefully we will all find out about the truth in due time. Until then, Prince is who you've known him to be before this past March. If he didn't share something with us directly via songs, interviews, social media, etc...., then it's questionable, moreso after March and April, with reports floading left and right with he said/she said... [Edited 6/5/16 23:20pm]

Prince lied a lot.

That does about sum things up.

Though, to be fair, I think a lot of statements were tailored to the interviewer (Prince worked hard at entertaining reporters, if you really think about it). A lot of other things he said were just his way of dismissing things he didn't care about much at a particular moment, and turning attention toward whatever he was promoting.