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Thread started 06/02/16 3:10pm

Menes

Fentanyl dosing and respiratory failure.

Something isnt sitting right with me. Has anyone thought about how was it possible that he overdosed on Fentanyl alone? Isnt this a time released drug for over 72 hours in the patch form? So its about 10 patches dispensed at one time I heard.

It's dosed in very tiny amounts( mircrograms) because of the potency, so did he put on too many patches all at once? I dont think this is it. Isn't the hip thing now to lace it with something else for maximum effect?

He was already looking pretty gaunt at the fox . I mean ,really sucked in.

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Reply #1 posted 06/02/16 3:15pm

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Prince at 112 pounds and 63 inches was nearly a half pound overweight.

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Reply #2 posted 06/02/16 3:17pm

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suomynona said:

Prince at 112 pounds and 63 inches was nearly a half pound overweight.




http://www.npr.org/templa...=106268439
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Reply #3 posted 06/02/16 3:18pm

Menes

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Prince at 112 pounds and 63 inches was nearly a half pound overweight.

based on what? BMI?

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Reply #4 posted 06/02/16 3:19pm

endiadj

suomynona said:

Prince at 112 pounds and 63 inches was nearly a half pound overweight.



the man has always been petite. he had moments of looking a bit more muscular than usual but for the most part he was petite.
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Reply #5 posted 06/02/16 3:20pm

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Menes said:



suomynona said:


Prince at 112 pounds and 63 inches was nearly a half pound overweight.



based on what? BMI?



Obviously not based on basic common sense. Sigh..
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Reply #6 posted 06/02/16 3:24pm

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GirlBrother said:

suomynona said:

Prince at 112 pounds and 63 inches was nearly a half pound overweight.

http://www.npr.org/templa...=106268439

nod Not only is the BMI bogus, Prince wouldn't have been nearly overweight by BMI standards. He was on the light end of normal.

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Reply #7 posted 06/02/16 3:35pm

Menes

For the record, When I said "gaunt" this had nothing to do with how much he weighed at the time. His face was pinched. As I said, "Sucked in".

Can someone please explain this fentanyl dosing to me? That's what I would like to know.

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Reply #8 posted 06/02/16 3:35pm

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Fenty patch comes in a box of five. Usually prescribed according to weight and current pain thres hold. Starting dose is usually 6.25 or 12.5 mcg every 72 hrs. Patients must be careful not to place more than one patch on at one time unless ordered by MD. However some physicians will prescribe a higher dose . Patches do go as high as 100mcg which is a large amount. Based on what I have read it is possible more than one patch could have been used or the dose could have been very high ocer 100 mcg . It dies lower respirations ,if respirations are 8 or lower somebody is in trouble. Blood pressure systolic pressure lessthan 90 to 80 and diastolic pressure less than 60 fentyl will drop vital signs lower. Take into consideration if any other medications or alchol is used as well

Yes it sounds suspicious but we will never know the truth. Dead man tells no tales
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Reply #9 posted 06/02/16 3:38pm

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The Tribune reported they have not found any RX for the drug. It comes in patch, pill, powder and liquid. Street forms usually in powder or liquid.

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Reply #10 posted 06/02/16 3:45pm

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CROWNS1 said:

The Tribune reported they have not found any RX for the drug. It comes in patch, pill, powder and liquid. Street forms usually in powder or liquid.




Yes, lovelyones it's... seem like we will never know the truth and for the record P told me he was 5"2 even....

63 inches equals = is 5'3 ... but ...it's what the report says...

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Reply #11 posted 06/02/16 3:49pm

Menes

Marie54 said:

Fenty patch comes in a box of five. Usually prescribed according to weight and current pain thres hold. Starting dose is usually 6.25 or 12.5 mcg every 72 hrs. Patients must be careful not to place more than one patch on at one time unless ordered by MD. However some physicians will prescribe a higher dose . Patches do go as high as 100mcg which is a large amount. Based on what I have read it is possible more than one patch could have been used or the dose could have been very high ocer 100 mcg . It dies lower respirations ,if respirations are 8 or lower somebody is in trouble. Blood pressure systolic pressure lessthan 90 to 80 and diastolic pressure less than 60 fentyl will drop vital signs lower. Take into consideration if any other medications or alchol is used as well Yes it sounds suspicious but we will never know the truth. Dead man tells no tales

So according to the initial leaked reports, he was fouund with Percocet on his person. I am assuming he was taking Percocet at the same time? How were they able to state that Fentanyl toxicity was the cause and it was accidental? I just want to understand something here.. If you were taking fentanyl with heroin, or , percocet, and then you accidentally overdosed, do they only list the one drug, as in Fentanyl?

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Reply #12 posted 06/02/16 4:00pm

Menes

I'm going out on a limb here...This report is bullshit. There is more to this story! There is some mixing going on ...This is bullshit. Fentanyl alone? Bullshit.

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Reply #13 posted 06/02/16 4:01pm

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Menes said:

Marie54 said:

Fenty patch comes in a box of five. Usually prescribed according to weight and current pain thres hold. Starting dose is usually 6.25 or 12.5 mcg every 72 hrs. Patients must be careful not to place more than one patch on at one time unless ordered by MD. However some physicians will prescribe a higher dose . Patches do go as high as 100mcg which is a large amount. Based on what I have read it is possible more than one patch could have been used or the dose could have been very high ocer 100 mcg . It dies lower respirations ,if respirations are 8 or lower somebody is in trouble. Blood pressure systolic pressure lessthan 90 to 80 and diastolic pressure less than 60 fentyl will drop vital signs lower. Take into consideration if any other medications or alchol is used as well Yes it sounds suspicious but we will never know the truth. Dead man tells no tales

So according to the initial leaked reports, he was fouund with Percocet on his person. I am assuming he was taking Percocet at the same time? How were they able to state that Fentanyl toxicity was the cause and it was accidental? I just want to understand something here.. If you were taking fentanyl with heroin, or , percocet, and then you accidentally overdosed, do they only list the one drug, as in Fentanyl?

The leaked reports have not been confirmed nor attributed to anyone specific.

The medical examiner's report is clear. It only mentions one drug.

Maybe we should trust that, and not "leaked reports".

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Reply #14 posted 06/02/16 4:04pm

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The Tribune reported they have not found any RX for the drug. It comes in patch, pill, powder and liquid. Street forms usually in powder or liquid.




Fentanyl is not available as a pill commercially. It's available as a lollipop commercially.
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Reply #15 posted 06/02/16 4:10pm

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Fentanyl also comes in Lollypop form.
Every picture of Prince with a Lollypop is running through my head.
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Reply #16 posted 06/02/16 4:16pm

Menes

jpav said:

Menes said:

So according to the initial leaked reports, he was fouund with Percocet on his person. I am assuming he was taking Percocet at the same time? How were they able to state that Fentanyl toxicity was the cause and it was accidental? I just want to understand something here.. If you were taking fentanyl with heroin, or , percocet, and then you accidentally overdosed, do they only list the one drug, as in Fentanyl?

The leaked reports have not been confirmed nor attributed to anyone specific.

The medical examiner's report is clear. It only mentions one drug.

Maybe we should trust that, and not "leaked reports".

According to Dr. Sculenberg, he had given Prince a prescription to be filled the night before. EIther he was already taking Fentanyl and seeking a refill, or he was combining something with it.

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Reply #17 posted 06/02/16 4:18pm

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He walked within two feet of me in 2006 when I got called on the stage by one of the Twinz. Me and my best friend both said " man he is teeny"

So 5'3" 112 pounds on an almost 58- year old man is not unheard of. Some of y'all act like he was supposed to be all cut up like he was at planet fitness all year. Throw in a meatless diet and he probably was thin... But it didn't keep him from delivering a two a night concerts in two different continents.
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Reply #18 posted 06/02/16 4:22pm

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He walked within two feet of me in 2006 when I got called on the stage by one of the Twinz. Me and my best friend both said " man he is teeny" So 5'3" 112 pounds on an almost 58- year old man is not unheard of. Some of y'all act like he was supposed to be all cut up like he was at planet fitness all year. Throw in a meatless diet and he probably was thin... But it didn't keep him from delivering a two a night concerts in two different continents.

But his face looked different in 2016. It wasn't age. The foundation couldnt hide it.

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Reply #19 posted 06/02/16 4:59pm

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Menes said:



Marie54 said:


Fenty patch comes in a box of five. Usually prescribed according to weight and current pain thres hold. Starting dose is usually 6.25 or 12.5 mcg every 72 hrs. Patients must be careful not to place more than one patch on at one time unless ordered by MD. However some physicians will prescribe a higher dose . Patches do go as high as 100mcg which is a large amount. Based on what I have read it is possible more than one patch could have been used or the dose could have been very high ocer 100 mcg . It dies lower respirations ,if respirations are 8 or lower somebody is in trouble. Blood pressure systolic pressure lessthan 90 to 80 and diastolic pressure less than 60 fentyl will drop vital signs lower. Take into consideration if any other medications or alchol is used as well Yes it sounds suspicious but we will never know the truth. Dead man tells no tales

So according to the initial leaked reports, he was fouund with Percocet on his person. I am assuming he was taking Percocet at the same time? How were they able to state that Fentanyl toxicity was the cause and it was accidental? I just want to understand something here.. If you were taking fentanyl with heroin, or , percocet, and then you accidentally overdosed, do they only list the one drug, as in Fentanyl?


--- It was the media that said he had Percocet on him not police and it was not what killed.
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Reply #20 posted 06/02/16 5:10pm

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Fentanyl also comes in Lollypop form. Every picture of Prince with a Lollypop is running through my head.



These are the only "lollipops" I see.

Image result for fentanyl lollipops

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Reply #21 posted 06/02/16 5:13pm

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I'm going out on a limb here...This report is bullshit. There is more to this story! There is some mixing going on ...This is bullshit. Fentanyl alone? Bullshit.



The family should come clean. Prince was no drug addict. Prince was no Elvis and that is the picture being painted of him. If he had AIDS or cancer, then the family should say so and then it will become clear on why he had to take such strong meds. Something is very wrong with this story.
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Reply #22 posted 06/02/16 5:22pm

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It is totally possible that Prince OD'd from Fentanyl patches, multiple patches with other depressants onboard will do it. Slightly less likely, but possible he got his hands on the injectble version.

I wouldnt rule out either.
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Reply #23 posted 06/02/16 5:37pm

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derrick31 said:

Menes said:

I'm going out on a limb here...This report is bullshit. There is more to this story! There is some mixing going on ...This is bullshit. Fentanyl alone? Bullshit.

The family should come clean. Prince was no drug addict. Prince was no Elvis and that is the picture being painted of him. If he had AIDS or cancer, then the family should say so and then it will become clear on why he had to take such strong meds. Something is very wrong with this story.

I agree, people aren't stupid, most know that what they have put out there is not the whole story, and that there is more to it.

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Reply #24 posted 06/02/16 5:49pm

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1contessa said:



derrick31 said:


Menes said:

I'm going out on a limb here...This report is bullshit. There is more to this story! There is some mixing going on ...This is bullshit. Fentanyl alone? Bullshit.



The family should come clean. Prince was no drug addict. Prince was no Elvis and that is the picture being painted of him. If he had AIDS or cancer, then the family should say so and then it will become clear on why he had to take such strong meds. Something is very wrong with this story.

I agree, people aren't stupid, most know that what they have put out there is not the whole story, and that there is more to it.



You're both nuts.
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Reply #25 posted 06/02/16 5:50pm

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derrick31 said:

Menes said: The family should come clean. Prince was no drug addict. Prince was no Elvis and that is the picture being painted of him. If he had AIDS or cancer, then the family should say so and then it will become clear on why he had to take such strong meds. Something is very wrong with this story.

I agree, people aren't stupid, most know that what they have put out there is not the whole story, and that there is more to it.

They've said on the news that hundreds of people have died of that type of overdose this year. I doubt they all had AIDS or cancer, they had an addiction problem.

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Reply #26 posted 06/02/16 5:57pm

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sharonbell said:



1contessa said:




derrick31 said:


Menes said: The family should come clean. Prince was no drug addict. Prince was no Elvis and that is the picture being painted of him. If he had AIDS or cancer, then the family should say so and then it will become clear on why he had to take such strong meds. Something is very wrong with this story.

I agree, people aren't stupid, most know that what they have put out there is not the whole story, and that there is more to it.



They've said on the news that hundreds of people have died of that type of overdose this year. I doubt they all had AIDS or cancer, they had an addiction problem.


Agree with you there. Opiod tolerance is not a concept based in consipracy, just science.
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Reply #27 posted 06/02/16 6:00pm

Menes

This is truly bullshit. So i went back and listened to the Lenny Kravitz interview again and again. @ the 5:20 mark , he starts talking about the inicident on the plane... At 5: 40 he says " well ok , that was a close call". He goes on to say he has some ideas but he cant say anything when asked what was he sick with. What sort of busllshit is this? To me this says this was a pattern of something that was undeniable. He wasn't that shocked.

Hip pain and thats it? Youre going deep like that for the hip? What sort of double life is this? I knew he wasn't prancing around Walgreens looking for skittles.

Everyone already knew he was sick. Not just regular sick(flu my ass), but real sick! You're either dope sick and you've turned into a dope fiend or you got the gift that keeps on giving when it gets like that. Fentanyl my ass. I dont know about you people but I saw this face. It was not the face of the flu.

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Reply #28 posted 06/02/16 6:02pm

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CROWNS1 said:

The Tribune reported they have not found any RX for the drug. It comes in patch, pill, powder and liquid. Street forms usually in powder or liquid.

Fentanyl is not available as a pill commercially. It's available as a lollipop commercially.

"Pimp rag! Check! Tootsie Pop! Check!..."

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Reply #29 posted 06/02/16 6:02pm

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sharonbell said:



1contessa said:




derrick31 said:


Menes said: The family should come clean. Prince was no drug addict. Prince was no Elvis and that is the picture being painted of him. If he had AIDS or cancer, then the family should say so and then it will become clear on why he had to take such strong meds. Something is very wrong with this story.

I agree, people aren't stupid, most know that what they have put out there is not the whole story, and that there is more to it.



They've said on the news that hundreds of people have died of that type of overdose this year. I doubt they all had AIDS or cancer, they had an addiction problem.


No they are saying many cancer patients have died from it.It is a drug that people take when they are terminal if he did not have a terminal dieases he was trying to kill himself.
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