leecaldon said:

nursev said:

Regardless of BMI 112 is thin.

It's not a like-for-comparison but an ex-girlfriend was 5'3" and weighed 112. She's slim, in good shape and has curves - in no way underweight.

Men have about 50% more muscle mass than women...so that is like your gf weighing 60 or 70lbs.

112 looked very thin on Prince. I think he was usually around 10-20lbs heavier - again muscle weighs a lot.

jesme1999 said:

simm0061 said:

My sister works in a MN hospital and says she's never seen that prescribed. It is usually administered at the hospital, usually when someone is terminal. She said it is used for "conscious sedation" in hospitals. And a pain specialist would only prescribe that if the paitent was terminal...and even then, not likely.

Some one is probably going to go to jail on this one. Probably why that MN Dr was fired...

I know many people who go to pain management And are prescribes Fentanyl patches plus Pills My 83 yr old ex mother in law is one of them . Its used alot for severe chronic pain .

I doubt it is prescibed often to non-terminal patients. But there are a lot of sh*tty drs out there I suppose...

nursev said:

So sad right now don't feel it matters how he died I just wish he was still with us.

mailaccount63 said:

jesme1999 said:

simm0061 said:

My sister works in a MN hospital and says she's never seen that prescribed. It is usually administered at the hospital, usually when someone is terminal. She said it is used for "conscious sedation" in hospitals. And a pain specialist would only prescribe that if the paitent was terminal...and even then, not likely.

Some one is probably going to go to jail on this one. Probably why that MN Dr was fired...

I know many people who go to pain management And are prescribes Fentanyl patches plus Pills My 83 yr old ex mother in law is one of them . Its used alot for severe chronic pain .

From my understanding, Prince didn't have a Fentanyl patch, he injected it. I don't think it's normal for a patient to inject. Correct me if I'm wrong.

CROWNS1 said:

limoncello said:

Fury said:

The clothing description matches the picture that TMZ was pushing. Prince didn't strike me as the type to walk around the house in all black basic clothing

What else would you expect him to be wearing in his own home at 3:00 in the morning? Gold lamé and 4-inch heels?

nursev said:

1contessa said:

laurarichardson said:

1contessa said: ---- Are people with AIDS traveling internationally, playing 2 -4 hour concerts, going to jazz shows and riding around on bikes? I am not saying it is not possible but you do realize are hard that is to believe? You also have disclose that you have Hiv or AIDS to your partners. How would he have kept that quiet.

Do you honestly think that everyone who has HIV or AIDS disclose it to their partners or people they just hook up with? That's very naive.

ya, even if they are required by law, they don't. Arthur Ashe, a good man by all accounts, lied about it to get into Africa. People are people and are ultimately about their own self-preservation.

mont0372 said:

Try as we might, we can't stop someone from their own death time any more than their birth time.

Agree that there was a wake up call the week before that did not get heeded, probably for many reasons.

There is a vertical and horizontal scar on his side and thigh visible in his 20's. Maybe an old injury or ?, may never know. Along with everything else, Prince was an athlete in sports and onstage and even without heels athletes have injuries.

Doesn't change our LOVE 4 HIM one bit as many others have said.

laurarichardson said:

nursev said:

leecaldon said:

It's not a like-for-comparison but an ex-girlfriend was 5'3" and weighed 112. She's slim, in good shape and has curves - in no way underweight.

112 is cool if you have proper nutrition to go along with that and obviously Prince didn't.

Isn't there a difference according to sex, body frame and age? I don't think people can compare a man to their girlfriends.

Not you, but so many people went off in the wrong direction when I mentioned weight.

What I was actually wondering is about the dosage of medication relative to his weight? Is is true that a dosage for a smaller person would differ from a big person?

mont0372 said:

jesme1999 said:

simm0061 said: I know many people who go to pain management And are prescribes Fentanyl patches plus Pills My 83 yr old ex mother in law is one of them . Its used alot for severe chronic pain .

From my understanding, Prince didn't have a Fentanyl patch, he injected it. I don't think it's normal for a patient to inject. Correct me if I'm wrong.

And your understanding is based on...?

Genesia said:

Fury said:

The clothing description matches the picture that TMZ was pushing. Prince didn't strike me as the type to walk around the house in all black basic clothing

What else would you expect him to be wearing in his own home at 3:00 in the morning? Gold lamé and 4-inch heels?

I always like to think he would make use of old clothes, Like I do around the house. I have visions of Prince doing the dishes in his mack and briefs or maybe the yellow assless pants.

jesme1999 said:

jesme1999 said:

nursev said:

Fentanyl is a narcotic, it is controlled and counted by nurses due to it being highly abused. One patch is strong enough to last for days. I've only seen it prescribed for chronic pain, cancer, etc issues where a patient can't get proper pain relief from other medications. As a nurse there is no way in hell Im giving Fentanyl and Percocet together...recipe for disaster.

Totally agree and yet money hungry pain management Doctors do it all the time i was floored When my 83 yr old mother in law was prescribed The patches and norco Even more floored that my ex hubs was Getting them from her and Cutting them open and eating the gel .

Damn, this is an epidemic. I think it should be a crime to prescribe that stuff to an elderly person without responsible oversight. Norco I knew nothing about until a young relative of mine became addicted to it. When I was told this, I said what the hell is Norco?!! Apparently, people sniff it and smoke it. :-oIt makes me sad that sources for addiction are more diverse and plentiful than when I was young. That was bad enough. Fortunately, after many tries at rehabilitation, he got serious about his sobriety and he is now successful in his life...and working the 12 steps every day. There IS life beyond prescription opiod dependence.

[Edited 6/2/16 14:51pm]

SquirrelMeat said:

Genesia said:

What else would you expect him to be wearing in his own home at 3:00 in the morning? Gold lamé and 4-inch heels?

I always like to think he would make use of old clothes, Like I do around the house. I have visions of Prince doing the dishes in his mack and briefs or maybe the yellow assless pants.

At least the report settled one question for all time - he was wearing underwear.

babynoz said:

GGlow said:

Why did the lady on CNN at the Medical Examiners office have to state it like "This is the new Heroine?" I don't like that! Goodness. Prince was in severe hip pain! He just took too many pills! Geee I miss him.

http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn&sr=watchHPbutton

because they are doing their best to make him look like an addict. there is so much wrong with this whole thing I can't even stand it. well, i need to not say anything else.

nursev said:

babynoz said:

Isn't there a difference according to sex, body frame and age? I don't think people can compare a man to their girlfriends.

Not you, but so many people went off in the wrong direction when I mentioned weight.

What I was actually wondering is about the dosage of medication relative to his weight? Is is true that a dosage for a smaller person would differ from a big person?

all true and most medications are prescribed according to gender, weight and height. I think that one of these doctors didn't know the other had prescribed something else....poor Prince caught in between and took em.

Thanks. I truly believe it was accidental.

nursev said:

babynoz said:

Isn't there a difference according to sex, body frame and age? I don't think people can compare a man to their girlfriends.

Not you, but so many people went off in the wrong direction when I mentioned weight.

What I was actually wondering is about the dosage of medication relative to his weight? Is is true that a dosage for a smaller person would differ from a big person?

all true and most medications are prescribed according to gender, weight and height. I think that one of these doctors didn't know the other had prescribed something else....poor Prince caught in between and took em.

Smaller sized people have a lower tolerance for everything, not just alcohol.

purplethunder3121 said:

jesme1999 said:

nursev said: Totally agree and yet money hungry pain management Doctors do it all the time i was floored When my 83 yr old mother in law was prescribed The patches and norco Even more floored that my ex hubs was Getting them from her and Cutting them open and eating the gel .

Damn, this is an epidemic. I think it should be a crime to prescribe that stuff to an elderly person without responsible oversight. Norco I knew nothing about until a young relative of mine became addicted to it. When I was told this, I said what the hell is Norco?!! Apparently, people sniff it and smoke it. :-oIt makes me sad that sources for addiction are more diverse and plentiful than when I was young. That was bad enough. Fortunately, after many tries at rehabilitation, he got serious about his sobriety and he is now successful in his life...and working the 12 steps every day. There IS life beyond prescription opiod dependence.

[Edited 6/2/16 14:51pm]

it is, they say it's bad here in seattle, i wouldn't know, i go the other way when people fuck around with anything. I still wonder how it could happen to someone as self-aware and intelligent as Prince. Ironically, both he and MJ were anti drug when they were young, well, at least they didn't die at 27.

nursev said:

I would love to hear from the doctor we have hear on this if only ya'll hadn't scared him or her away with that damn petition thread

He's on the update thread. I asked him a question.

BanishedBrian said: