tracyface said:

destinyc1 said:

eye'm wondering now how even lived through that plane ride?This is very bad.We need 2 be honest with ourselves right now.Someone should of been there 2 help him. F MUSIC THIS WAS ABOUT HIS LIFE.He didn't have 2 die.2 me he was enabled 2 death We have ALL got 2 wake up 2 this and stop looking 4 excuses.Come on 112 lbs not normal folks,not normal.

eye agree whole heartedly destinyc1. This is a tragedy a very uncessary tragedy. Now, eye am not blaming Friends, family, coworkers as he was a grown man responsible 4 his own decisions and action. However, eye cant help but think the those around let it way too far without real intervention.

THANK YOU! That's what is lost in the process of grief among sensible and delusional fans. Prince dealt with his health problems the best way he knew how that would allow him to keep traveling to play concerts on the Piano & Microphone Tour, produce a second 3RDEYEGIRL album, produce an instrumental funk album around Kirk Johnson, MONONEON and Adrian Crutchfield and write his autobiography. He was a grown man who was fiercely independent for all of his life that manifested into 4 decades of awe-inspiring music, daring image changes and innovation in business. Only thing about an intervention, is that because Prince was their boss, if employees did setup an intervention, if he threatened to fire them, there goes the help. Prince would have to make the decision for himself to seek long term medical care for a few months-that means not thinking about music, but focusing on managing his chronic pain using other means.

I never took Prince for a boxers kinda dude, more of a lace thong or commando (at least around the crib) kinda guy.

appleseed said:

bashraka said:

tracyface said:

eye agree whole heartedly destinyc1. This is a tragedy a very uncessary tragedy. Now, eye am not blaming Friends, family, coworkers as he was a grown man responsible 4 his own decisions and action. However, eye cant help but think the those around let it way too far without real intervention.

THANK YOU! That's what is lost in the process of grief among sensible and delusional fans. Prince dealt with his health problems the best way he knew how that would allow him to keep traveling to play concerts on the Piano & Microphone Tour, produce a second 3RDEYEGIRL album, produce an instrumental funk album around Kirk Johnson, MONONEON and Adrian Crutchfield and write his autobiography. He was a grown man who was fiercely independent for all of his life that manifested into 4 decades of awe-inspiring music, daring image changes and innovation in business. Only thing about an intervention, is that because Prince was their boss, if employees did setup an intervention, if he threatened to fire them, there goes the help. Prince would have to make the decision for himself to seek long term medical care for a few months-that means not thinking about music, but focusing on managing his chronic pain using other means.

How can we hear or purchase this Funk Album that you speakest about???

computerblue77 said:

???????

computerblue77 said:

You do know this video is private??? Like mimi1956 is questioning also.

EchoChild said:

These two articles have been pointed out in the "BREAKING NEWS.." thread, and I thought that they should also be posted here (the two threads seem to be reaching similar conclusions):

"Prince Died of Fentanyl Overdose" by Ann M. Gault * June, 2, 2016
http://www.practicalpainm...l-overdose

"Fentanyl Patches Overused in Vulnerable Populations" by Thomas G. Ciccone * May 6, 2016
http://www.practicalpainm...opulations

fyi

destinyc1 said:

jillybean said:

Is this real? He weighed 112 lbs. Oh, this is heartbreaking all over again.

YES...And many of us on here kept saying he looked bad and thin.

112 lbs seems low to many people, but remember he was 5'2 and ate very healthy, and probably sweated off all his daily calories and then some up on stage and rehearsal, etc. I am also 5'2 and at one point was 112 lbs and I promise you, I was not too skinny. I was just right...plus I had boobs (pretty decent sized ones, at that) LOL. I was in no way too thin, and I didn't get a lot of exercise or eat super healthy. Plus if he was feeling ill for the last couple weeks, he might have dropped a few lbs as well. 112 to me for Prince doesnt seem crazy. For a man, I know that is low, but he was so tiny. I saw him up close in concert in Vegas at the 3121 concert and he turned to the side and I was so shocked how slim he was. And small. This was in 2007. Until you see him up close, you dont realize how tiny he really was. I do agree he looked a little older in the last year or so. I noticed more in his face. But then again, he was approaching 60. God I miss that man!

Also, can someone tell me how to add the signature quote at the end of my posts? This is my first post! Been lurking for years, but never posted. :-0

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thequeenofthekings said:

destinyc1 said:

YES...And many of us on here kept saying he looked bad and thin.

112 lbs seems low to many people, but remember he was 5'2 and ate very healthy, and probably sweated off all his daily calories and then some up on stage and rehearsal, etc. I am also 5'2 and at one point was 112 lbs and I promise you, I was not too skinny. I was just right...plus I had boobs (pretty decent sized ones, at that) LOL. I was in no way too thin, and I didn't get a lot of exercise or eat super healthy. Plus if he was feeling ill for the last couple weeks, he might have dropped a few lbs as well. 112 to me for Prince doesnt seem crazy. For a man, I know that is low, but he was so tiny. I saw him up close in concert in Vegas at the 3121 concert and he turned to the side and I was so shocked how slim he was. And small. This was in 2007. Until you see him up close, you dont realize how tiny he really was. I do agree he looked a little older in the last year or so. I noticed more in his face. But then again, he was approaching 60. God I miss that man!

Also, can someone tell me how to add the signature quote at the end of my posts? This is my first post! Been lurking for years, but never posted. :-0

[Edited 6/27/16 8:54am]

People don't realize his proportions were small and slim this whole time in terms of weight. Check this chart.

https://www.rush.edu/heal...thy-weight

All of the comments I have read have been excellent. I now choose to go to the light and remember Prince for the man and music he was. I believe he would prefer that we dwell on his good works and not the way he died. Prince lived and breathed music, his life had no room for anything else and he has left us a vault of music to keep his legacy alive. Rejoyce in his going home because one day we will meet again. Blessings to all.

ou812Ewokadoodle said:

All of the comments I have read have been excellent. I now choose to go to the light and remember Prince for the man and music he was. I believe he would prefer that we dwell on his good works and not the way he died. Prince lived and breathed music, his life had no room for anything else and he has left us a vault of music to keep his legacy alive. Rejoyce in his going home because one day we will meet again. Blessings to all.

Good Point... I have nonstop Prince on rotation at work (of course) and Lavaux just came on. Maaaaaybe that's where he went? Maybe he slipped out and just went "home" to live in Lavaux... Chillin', sippin' some wine? Maybe he's writing his will there to send back home and chuckling about all this nonsense? One can dream. We have 2 more days to see if anything in "June" meant anything about "this" June. That song made me think, maybe in June, something will be revealed and will make more sense.... (lyrics also below). YOU NEVER KNOW...

Lavaux

Take me to the vineyards of Lavaux
Wanna see the mountains where the waters flow
Life back home depresses me, just another form of slavery
The cost of freedom is anything but free

I don't care if they are covered with snow
I don't care if the road is narrow, if it is I'll know
It was always meant to be, still in love I must believe
Whatever path I choose will lead me home
Lead me home, Lavaux

Take me to the streets of Portugal
That might be my destiny to see the waterfall
Tears or rain, they're all the same
The only way to win this game
To let everybody play and share the ball

There ain't nobody got no chains on me
I'm flying higher than any mountain, deeper than any sea
A paradox is box's key, I'm the why in mystery
You're gonna unlock the secrets if you please

Come take me to an assembly in New York
To speak of the brand new everlasting wonder war
To win or lose is so absurd
And the only casualty is the word, the word

Revolution time has come today
'Cause it took a black face to see the same decay
Like the chocolate of Vavey, in the sun they'll melt away
As for me, I'll laugh and go to the mountains where the waters flow
Back to the vineyards of Lavaux

Lavaux
Lavaux
Lavaux
Lavaux

Take me to the vineyards of Lavaux
Wanna see the mountains where the waters flow
Life back home depresses me, just another form of slavery

JUNE

ufoclub said:

thequeenofthekings said:

112 lbs seems low to many people, but remember he was 5'2 and ate very healthy, and probably sweated off all his daily calories and then some up on stage and rehearsal, etc. I am also 5'2 and at one point was 112 lbs and I promise you, I was not too skinny. I was just right...plus I had boobs (pretty decent sized ones, at that) LOL. I was in no way too thin, and I didn't get a lot of exercise or eat super healthy. Plus if he was feeling ill for the last couple weeks, he might have dropped a few lbs as well. 112 to me for Prince doesnt seem crazy. For a man, I know that is low, but he was so tiny. I saw him up close in concert in Vegas at the 3121 concert and he turned to the side and I was so shocked how slim he was. And small. This was in 2007. Until you see him up close, you dont realize how tiny he really was. I do agree he looked a little older in the last year or so. I noticed more in his face. But then again, he was approaching 60. God I miss that man!

Also, can someone tell me how to add the signature quote at the end of my posts? This is my first post! Been lurking for years, but never posted. :-0

[Edited 6/27/16 8:54am]

People don't realize his proportions were small and slim this whole time in terms of weight. Check this chart.

https://www.rush.edu/heal...thy-weight

I stood face to face with Prince in '06.... he was about 120lbs at the time and filled out quite nicely. Although he was still small he looked damn good. The reason is that muscle weighs more than fat.

He does not look healthy at 112lbs no matter what any chart says, I trust my eyeballs. There was a time in the nineties when he was too skinny as well.

Actually I stood face to boobs with him because I'm 5'8.

babynoz said:

ufoclub said:

People don't realize his proportions were small and slim this whole time in terms of weight. Check this chart.

https://www.rush.edu/heal...thy-weight

I stood face to face with Prince in '06.... he was about 120lbs at the time and filled out quite nicely. Although he was still small he looked damn good. The reason is that muscle weighs more than fat.

He does not look healthy at 112lbs no matter what any chart says, I trust my eyeballs. There was a time in the nineties when he was too skinny as well.

Actually I stood face to boobs with him because I'm 5'8.

How did you know he was about 120lbs?

Trusting their eyeballs made people believe the world was flat!

I found another chart: http://www.healthchecksys...tchart.htm

ufoclub said:

babynoz said:

I stood face to face with Prince in '06.... he was about 120lbs at the time and filled out quite nicely. Although he was still small he looked damn good. The reason is that muscle weighs more than fat.

He does not look healthy at 112lbs no matter what any chart says, I trust my eyeballs. There was a time in the nineties when he was too skinny as well.

Actually I stood face to boobs with him because I'm 5'8.

How did you know he was about 120lbs?

Trusting their eyeballs made people believe the world was flat!

I found another chart: http://www.healthchecksys...tchart.htm

Stupid response, obviously that was an estimate....that is why I said "about".

What I do know is that in the past several months he was considerably thinner than he was when I met him, so if an eyewitness account isn't good enough for you that's too bad.

If it's a case of believing you and your charts or my lying eyes, then I choose my eyes. We all know that Prince has always been small but only a fool cannot admit that he has looked unusually gaunt for the past several months.

Are you not capable of judging anything for yourself? You have eyes for a reason.

thequeenofthekings said:

ou812Ewokadoodle said:

All of the comments I have read have been excellent. I now choose to go to the light and remember Prince for the man and music he was. I believe he would prefer that we dwell on his good works and not the way he died. Prince lived and breathed music, his life had no room for anything else and he has left us a vault of music to keep his legacy alive. Rejoyce in his going home because one day we will meet again. Blessings to all.

Good Point... I have nonstop Prince on rotation at work (of course) and Lavaux just came on. Maaaaaybe that's where he went? Maybe he slipped out and just went "home" to live in Lavaux... Chillin', sippin' some wine? Maybe he's writing his will there to send back home and chuckling about all this nonsense? One can dream. We have 2 more days to see if anything in "June" meant anything about "this" June. That song made me think, maybe in June, something will be revealed and will make more sense.... (lyrics also below). YOU NEVER KNOW...

Lavaux

Take me to the vineyards of Lavaux
Wanna see the mountains where the waters flow
Life back home depresses me, just another form of slavery
The cost of freedom is anything but free

I don't care if they are covered with snow
I don't care if the road is narrow, if it is I'll know
It was always meant to be, still in love I must believe
Whatever path I choose will lead me home
Lead me home, Lavaux

Take me to the streets of Portugal
That might be my destiny to see the waterfall
Tears or rain, they're all the same
The only way to win this game
To let everybody play and share the ball

There ain't nobody got no chains on me
I'm flying higher than any mountain, deeper than any sea
A paradox is box's key, I'm the why in mystery
You're gonna unlock the secrets if you please

Come take me to an assembly in New York
To speak of the brand new everlasting wonder war
To win or lose is so absurd
And the only casualty is the word, the word

Revolution time has come today
'Cause it took a black face to see the same decay
Like the chocolate of Vavey, in the sun they'll melt away
As for me, I'll laugh and go to the mountains where the waters flow
Back to the vineyards of Lavaux

Lavaux
Lavaux
Lavaux
Lavaux

Take me to the vineyards of Lavaux
Wanna see the mountains where the waters flow
Life back home depresses me, just another form of slavery

JUNE

Pasta simmers on the stove in June
Makes no sense yet
But it will soon

Conversation starters come way too hard
Nobody wants to be the martyr
Playing the wrong cards
Why did you come to this planet
Why did you come to this life

How come everybody's dream and still be
Somebody's wife
Tell me, what did you have for Lunch today?
That's right how would I know?
How would I know?
You're off
Somewhere
Being free
While I starve in the lonesome cold
Our bodies got used to each other
Now they are used to the sound of Richie Havens
Voice on the vinyl spinnin' round and round
Round and round​
Sometimes I feel like I was born way too late
Should have been born on the Woodstock stage
But I'm just here waiting & waiting & waiting

Somebody famous had a birthday today
But all eye saw was another full moon
What's that?
Something' Burnin' on the stove
It must be the Pasta
It must be the Pasta
Oh Yeah, it's June

Thanks for turning me on with the songs above. Prince was unique in his song writing. I know songwriters and there is always a back story on each song. One of my friends was writing with some folks and he had the funniest line I had ever heard. I find the back story more interesting than the song sometimes. Prince was unique in his use of imagery and the use of melody to separate words giving them double meaning. Another thing I find interesting is how young he was when wrote some of these songs which prove he was really an old soul. I am the same age as Prince and I have been looking back at the videos from the 80s with a big smile. You had to graduate in 1976 to understand the leg warmers.

lameless said:

Well, there it is in black and white.

But, I agree...where's the rest? Did he have a hip replacement or not? Did he have an illness or not?

ETA: When Whitney's report was released, we even knew whether her teeth were real. But, maybe the family has requested privacy and all we can see is the cause of death.
[Edited 6/2/16 11:50am]

ThirdStrike said:

Fury said:

The clothing description matches the picture that TMZ was pushing. Prince didn't strike me as the type to walk around the house in all black basic clothing

babynoz said:

ou812Ewokadoodle said:

thequeenofthekings said:

I was BORN in 1976...haha. But I for sure wore legwarmers in dance class!

babynoz said:

ufoclub said:

People don't realize his proportions were small and slim this whole time in terms of weight. Check this chart.

https://www.rush.edu/heal...thy-weight

I stood face to face with Prince in '06.... he was about 120lbs at the time and filled out quite nicely. Although he was still small he looked damn good. The reason is that muscle weighs more than fat.

He does not look healthy at 112lbs no matter what any chart says, I trust my eyeballs. There was a time in the nineties when he was too skinny as well.

Actually I stood face to boobs with him because I'm 5'8.

I agree that he has looked thinner in recent years. Especially his face. Just saying that when you see him in person, like you also have, you realize how small 5'2 on a man is and how fit he was. Not bulky, but thin, but not skinny, more like "compact" haha. 112lbs looks different on different people, I suppose. (5'2 people I mean). On me, it wasn't a skinny look. It was healthy. I could see 120 looking good on him as well, but remember, that's only 8 more lbs than 112. LOL I could gain that eating a sandwich these days! Of course, I have no idea what his weight was when I saw him in Vegas in 2007. Just saying, in general, 112 on a 5'2 fit person is not unheard of.

[Edited 7/1/16 7:21am]

thequeenofthekings said:

babynoz said:

I stood face to face with Prince in '06.... he was about 120lbs at the time and filled out quite nicely. Although he was still small he looked damn good. The reason is that muscle weighs more than fat.

He does not look healthy at 112lbs no matter what any chart says, I trust my eyeballs. There was a time in the nineties when he was too skinny as well.

Actually I stood face to boobs with him because I'm 5'8.

I agree that he has looked thinner in recent years. Especially his face. Just saying that when you see him in person, like you also have, you realize how small 5'2 on a man is and how fit he was. Not bulky, but thin, but not skinny, more like "compact" haha. 112lbs looks different on different people, I suppose. (5'2 people I mean). On me, it wasn't a skinny look. It was healthy. I could see 120 looking good on him as well, but remember, that's only 8 more lbs than 112. LOL I could gain that eating a sandwich these days! Of course, I have no idea what his weight was when I saw him in Vegas in 2007. Just saying, in general, 112 on a 5'2 fit person is not unheard of.

[Edited 7/1/16 7:21am]

Not unheard of at all. That is not what I was arguing.

There is not one ideal weight according to height, there is a range. Gender, body frame and age are some of the other factors to consider also.

A thousand people on this thread keep repeating what we already know. That 112lbs is within normal limits.....we get it.


I'm sticking with what I saw of him then vs now. I said he looked to be around 120 but I wasn't carrying a scale with me.

babynoz said:

ufoclub said:

How did you know he was about 120lbs?

Trusting their eyeballs made people believe the world was flat!

I found another chart: http://www.healthchecksys...tchart.htm

Stupid response, obviously that was an estimate....that is why I said "about".

What I do know is that in the past several months he was considerably thinner than he was when I met him, so if an eyewitness account isn't good enough for you that's too bad.

If it's a case of believing you and your charts or my lying eyes, then I choose my eyes. We all know that Prince has always been small but only a fool cannot admit that he has looked unusually gaunt for the past several months.

Are you not capable of judging anything for yourself? You have eyes for a reason.

I am the exact same height that Prince was... 63 inches and I am telling you for real, that 112 on his male frame was too dang thin! If you objectively look at pics of his last few concert and appearances,He is uncomfortbly thin His shoulder blades actually show through his shirt at his last concert... he has lost weight, his coloring is off and he's lost elastisity in his skin. To me this red flags dehydration, not eating right, possibly anemia. And this is just based on a brief visual of him during the past year. I would put money down that for at least 3 if not 6 months, he wasnt eating or drinking enough, that to me is obvious. The rest is speculation.

tracyface said:

The death certificate is a BIG LIE. Well done Minnesota.

tracyface said:

babynoz said:

Stupid response, obviously that was an estimate....that is why I said "about".

What I do know is that in the past several months he was considerably thinner than he was when I met him, so if an eyewitness account isn't good enough for you that's too bad.

If it's a case of believing you and your charts or my lying eyes, then I choose my eyes. We all know that Prince has always been small but only a fool cannot admit that he has looked unusually gaunt for the past several months.

Are you not capable of judging anything for yourself? You have eyes for a reason.

I am the exact same height that Prince was... 63 inches and I am telling you for real, that 112 on his male frame was too dang thin! If you objectively look at pics of his last few concert and appearances,He is uncomfortbly thin His shoulder blades actually show through his shirt at his last concert... he has lost weight, his coloring is off and he's lost elastisity in his skin. To me this red flags dehydration, not eating right, possibly anemia. And this is just based on a brief visual of him during the past year. I would put money down that for at least 3 if not 6 months, he wasnt eating or drinking enough, that to me is obvious. The rest is speculation.

Thank you.


You know that and so do I, but apparently our eyeballs are lying to us because of what some arbitrary chart says.