Vernan Reid finally chimes in; Toure again. lol

Moment of silence was nice.

Huge cultural loss. sigh.

Greene Space Vernon Reid

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suomynona said:

Greene Space Vernon Reid

Fixing keywords for future searches.

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Vernon is telling mass truth. He aint sugarcoating P.

Cousin Peanut.

2freaky4church1 said:

Is that scene in UTCM racist?

rabbutt said:

Near the end Greg Tate is talking about Prince's death being sketchy and implies 3 people, 2 of which were there that day. I am taking that to be the Cali doctor's son and Dr. Schulenberg. Any thoughts on who he is implying as the 3rd person?

CROWNS1 said:

I'm 35 minutes in and this is fantastic.

I just want to clarify something about UTCM as I haven't seen it. I understand where the guy who said he felt the pain of the black girls in the room whilst watching that scene was coming from.

As a young black woman I can only speak for myself and I am aware that we are a diverse group of people of differing origins, lineages, tribes, and so on. However, I deal with intense self-esteem issues. Growing up, and now still growing into adulthood, I see the preferential treatment of the "ambiguous" females who may be black but of certain descent. I see how hurtful it can be to not be considered attractive as a "regular" black girl. I have an older sister who is beautiful and just so happens to be of that prized type, and I was always compared to her. I always felt invisible. I wasn't as good,in my eyes and through the ignorance of some of my Jamaican family: I was justified. It was painful, and definitely troubles me now when it comes to who and what I believe will find me attractive. Prince was known to love beautiful women of all kinds, but aside from Vanity (because in my opinion she looked black though people would consider it still ambiguous) I think he sought someone who could be many things, and for many woc that hurts. The feeling of being invisible or not good enough for him wasn't/isn't an odd things based on what he put forth. I think that is a huge reason why people were thrown off about Damaris Lewis and him being friends, not to insinuate that he was in any way racist, it just so happened (maybe purposely) that he chose certain types over others. To me that was deliberate, as it happened all too often. All in all, brilliant panel so far. Thanks for posting this!

2freaky4church1 said:

Is that scene in UTCM racist?

I never thought so.

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He was portraying a gigolo. I'm pretty sure the character wasn't there and it was all just in Christophers mind. she just represented a bad experience that haunted him.

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Infact it always made me laugh. It was like his take on something from 'The Shining' or 'The Exorcist'. *Mwahahahah! flash on and off etc*

PurpleMusic07 said:

CROWNS1 said:

Near the end Greg Tate is talking about Prince's death being sketchy and implies 3 people, 2 of which were there that day. I am taking that to be the Cali doctor's son and Dr. Schulenberg. Any thoughts on who he is implying as the 3rd person?

either kirky j or the assistant meron

I think they were both there, and Tate said only 2 were there, so it has me curious who the 3rd person could be.

2freaky4church1 said:

An hour in. That shit about Poet99 is interesting.

Marrk said:

Great discussion. Toure never gets tired of telling that basketball story....The Poet99 story was interesting and the Nona story was hard. It was cool that they all had their own stories of being around him and their experiences.

Michaela Angela Davis was the most insightful and humanized Prince the most mainly because unlike Toure, she actually knew him longer than a day and didn't try to relay her working relationship with Prince as his fashion consultant anymore than what it was. I cannot stand Toure. He's a journalistic twat.

I agree. Hopefully if there's another P roundtable discussion he won't be involved.

DiscoBallz said:

suomynona said:

Greene Space Vernon Reid

Fixing keywords for future searches.

Might help to spell those keywords right.

Exactly.

http://www.thegreenespace.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Reid

This is so wonderful. I needed this.

I love hearing in the beginning that they feel the need to express how they feel about him, what he meant and remenscing. I need to have a collective experience of this.

But as 'fans' we have nothing really to cling to. It's hard to describe but a part of myself is pacing like a caged panther that I have no closure ~with all those in the world who loved them too, who had like experiences of how he affected their life.

Part of grief and healing is community. And Prince.org is serving this purpose right now (Thank you P.Org) but we need more. So I love this. This is medicine. Michaela Angela Davis is giving me life right now. Thank you sista.

Thank YOU O.P for sharing. Blessings.

Lyght2 said:

This is so wonderful. I needed this.

I love hearing in the beginning that they feel the need to express how they feel about him, what he meant and remenscing. I need to have a collective experience of this.

But as 'fans' we have nothing really to cling to. It's hard to describe but a part of myself is pacing like a caged panther that I have no closure ~with all those in the world who loved them too, who had like experiences of how he affected their life.

Part of grief and healing is community. And Prince.org is serving this purpose right now (Thank you P.Org) but we need more. So I love this. This is medicine. Michaela Angela Davis is giving me life right now. Thank you sista.

Thank YOU O.P for sharing. Blessings.

Yass! I love her, I've never listened to her in depth, but she is speaking for us sistas and to us!

I loved this forum

Thanks for sharing

I thought Vernon's comment on "Christopher" running away from the older black woman was interesting. He said he was offended by that, but then said it was possibile that P might have had a sexual situation with a older woman in his youth. And that scene might have reflected that. I never saw that scene in that light, but it puts a new take on it.

SPYZFAN1 said:

The older woman asked Christopher when they were going to hook up again. The lighting, her laugh and expression to me was comical. Interesting that you thought it represented his mom..I think with Christopher being drunk and seeing her freaked him out..Maybe she was someone he forgot he had a rendevous with?...It's funny because years later P asked Mel B. (in that interview) why was she labeled the "scary" one when there was nothing scary about her. I kind of saw where he was going with that, but he didn't go into it too deep.

You know, it's weird -- I always thought Sexy M.F. was about a man who was really turned on by his wife's intelligence (not that she wasn't physically sexy, because she obviously was. lol) and wanting to seduce her intellectually. I was 16 at the time this song came out, but it was one of my favorites just because here was a dude talking about brains being sexy.

I'm actually glad to know that was what Prince was going for.

Also... I am really weirded out by how much these people are attaching to Prince's preferences for ssexual partners. I mean, what the what? I'm a WoC, a really brown one, and I never really cared who he be doin (except for that one song, I Love U In Me where I was like, "Brahhh, please get laid, because all of that was too much info." lol),and attached no particular significance to the color of the women he was with.

Basically, it said nothing about my attractiveness as a Black woman.

Prince was entitled to screw whoever would let him, and if he preferred lighter women... I don't really care.