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Thread started 06/19/16 12:19pm

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Prince's sense of humor/equal footing

I was going through old Youtube videos and interviews where Prince would poke fun at people in the industry - both those who did and didn't work with him - and wanted to know if he'd have allowed them the same courtesy.

Examples like the "Ozzy Osburn" and "Oak Tree" dances, the Will.I.Am dig ("let's remember he wrote 'My Humps'"), chanting "St. Paul - punk of the month," commenting on how plump an old Revolution bandmate had gotten (Bobby Z?) during a gig some time in the aughts, etc. made me think about how touchy he'd get when former bandmates even dared talk about their time working with him.

I know he had a good sense of humor - but did it always extend to himself when it came from others? By how much?

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Reply #1 posted 06/19/16 4:58pm

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For me, I think the Ozzy joke was low brow, cheap, and disrespectful. Ozzy's been through some shit, most at his own hand, but he's still upright and alive. While Prince was Bromancing it up with Tony M. at the pool ("friends"), Ozzy was snorting a line of Tommy Lee's piss at another pool. Gross, but the dude went balls to the wall in life. I suppose he has a right to stumble around a bit at this point. (Just say no, kids.)

The Morris & Paul references were current and timely, and they didn't last past that year or so.

As far as will.i.am, I've never seen a more overhyped front man than him. It took a lot of people to write some of BEP songs, yet it took one person to write "Bohemian Rhapsody". Same with Beyonce (although at least her singing is far and above Fergie's or anything william can run through a vocoder) using 8 or 9 songwriters for a song like "Run The World", which is soooooo fucking repetitive. Does it need that many writers? Are samples that much of a crutch that you can't just come up with a beat and a bass line or something? It's lazy work. william is a whole lotta nothing.

Prince's references to The Revolution members were in 2000, I believe, at Northrup Auditorium. It was a larger concert during the 2000 Celebration. (June 13). Wendy & Lisa didn't come, but Bobby Z., Matt, and Mark showed up. They played "America". As Prince introduced them, he made comments about how ...I think he used the word "shapely" or "curvy" ...they were; basically noting they'd fattened up a bit. (I mean, who doesn't over time, besides Prince apparently?)

People have certainly made fun of Prince over the years, for the name change, or whatever. It's all give n' take.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #2 posted 06/19/16 11:19pm

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He and will.i.am are friends - talked about how they would talk about the industry, how he respected him as a businessman and techie. I think even will.i.am would laugh at the comment about my humps - it isn't genius music.
He's sent flowers to Ozzy's wife a few years ago because they were of same mind about artists' rights.
He has helped Bobby Z a lot - it seems they are very cool with each other.
Prince has expressed respect for fellow artists the vast majority of his career - let's not judge a person based on a few moments, but a general pattern.
I'm sure you consider yourself a kind person, but there were times when maybe you did not behave kindly or your actions were misinterpreted out of context - is it fair to judge your whole character on that?
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Reply #3 posted 06/20/16 2:15am

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Yes Prince could laugh at himself.
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Reply #4 posted 06/20/16 3:32am

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Yes Prince could laugh at himself.

Don't forget about the Dave Chappelle skit about the basketball at Prince's house...and the pancakes. He was a very good sport about them making fun of the way he dressed and his height. He even used the pancakes as self-deprecating humor over the years.

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Reply #5 posted 06/20/16 4:13am

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Reply #6 posted 06/20/16 5:14am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

BillieBalloon said:

Yes Prince could laugh at himself.

Don't forget about the Dave Chappelle skit about the basketball game at Prince's house...and the pancakes. He was a very good sport about them making fun of the way he dressed and his height. He even used the pancakes as self-deprecating humor over the years.

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Reply #7 posted 06/20/16 5:14am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

BillieBalloon said:

Yes Prince could laugh at himself.

Don't forget about the Dave Chappelle skit about the basketball game at Prince's house...and the pancakes. He was a very good sport about them making fun of the way he dressed and his height. He even used the pancakes as self-deprecating humor over the years.

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Reply #8 posted 06/20/16 5:15am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Don't forget about the Dave Chappelle skit about the basketball game at Prince's house...and the pancakes. He was a very good sport about them making fun of the way he dressed and his height. He even used the pancakes as self-deprecating humor over the years.

Sorry for the duplicate response. I was trying to edit my comment.

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Reply #9 posted 06/20/16 10:12am

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Just a question and I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but in the Mel B. interview where they are playing that word association game, she asks December 25 or something like that and he says Nimrod's birthday, does anybody know what that meant he said inside joke or something to that effect. I know Jehovah's don't celebrate Christmas so...... Just wondering.

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Reply #10 posted 06/20/16 10:23am

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mimi1956 said:

Just a question and I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but in the Mel B. interview where they are playing that word association game, she asks December 25 or something like that and he says Nimrod's birthday, does anybody know what that meant he said inside joke or something to that effect. I know Jehovah's don't celebrate Christmas so...... Just wondering.


Prince thinks he knew the bible more than God. (example: Stauros rants).

However, it's pretty well figured out that Christ was not born in December, or anywhere close. I've heard more like August, in modern terms. Christmas is a Pagan holiday, ultimately. The gifts, the tree, the decorations. Same with Easter (all about fertility - the rabbit, the eggs). Christians tried to counteract pagan holidays by creating their own at the same time. So, it's not anyone's birthday religiously, really. Especially Christ's. He was basically lambasting that idea.

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Reply #11 posted 06/20/16 11:40am

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TrivialPursuit said:

mimi1956 said:

Just a question and I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but in the Mel B. interview where they are playing that word association game, she asks December 25 or something like that and he says Nimrod's birthday, does anybody know what that meant he said inside joke or something to that effect. I know Jehovah's don't celebrate Christmas so...... Just wondering.


Prince thinks he knew the bible more than God. (example: Stauros rants).

However, it's pretty well figured out that Christ was not born in December, or anywhere close. I've heard more like August, in modern terms. Christmas is a Pagan holiday, ultimately. The gifts, the tree, the decorations. Same with Easter (all about fertility - the rabbit, the eggs). Christians tried to counteract pagan holidays by creating their own at the same time. So, it's not anyone's birthday religiously, really. Especially Christ's. He was basically lambasting that idea.

Yes I know that 12/25 is not the real date, but I was just wondering if he was insulting Jesus or was it something else. I know to the JW's Jesus is not as big a person as in other "Christian" religions.

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Reply #12 posted 06/20/16 12:29pm

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mimi1956 said:

Yes I know that 12/25 is not the real date, but I was just wondering if he was insulting Jesus or was it something else. I know to the JW's Jesus is not as big a person as in other "Christian" religions.


Nah, I think it was just an attack on the date and the "holy days". Not Christ.

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Reply #13 posted 06/20/16 12:58pm

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love the Jay Leno skits and interviews, the interview he did when he says" it's not memorax you are listening to, my microphone is on" and makes a funny face, talking about all the lyp sychning in the business. I also love the prank phone call when he is calling everyone telling them he is doing a survey on his music and no one realizes they are talking to Prince until the end. He was a funny dude.

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Reply #14 posted 06/20/16 1:03pm

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musicfan77 said:

love the Jay Leno skits and interviews, the interview he did when he says" it's not memorax you are listening to, my microphone is on" and makes a funny face, talking about all the lyp sychning in the business. I also love the prank phone call when he is calling everyone telling them he is doing a survey on his music and no one realizes they are talking to Prince until the end. He was a funny dude.




Do you have a link for the survey prank?
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Reply #15 posted 06/20/16 1:11pm

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BillieBalloon said:

musicfan77 said:

love the Jay Leno skits and interviews, the interview he did when he says" it's not memorax you are listening to, my microphone is on" and makes a funny face, talking about all the lyp sychning in the business. I also love the prank phone call when he is calling everyone telling them he is doing a survey on his music and no one realizes they are talking to Prince until the end. He was a funny dude.

Do you have a link for the survey prank?


It's on one of the EPs. Gett Off, I think?

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Reply #16 posted 06/20/16 2:46pm

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I always thought this was pretty great. Telemarketer blues... https://m.youtube.com/?re...YSIjGzf2dU
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