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Thread started 05/28/16 12:50am

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What is likely to be the first Vault release?

Several Prince interviews clearly indicate he knew the Vault material would one day be released "by somebody". Question is...when all is setlled, what is likely to be the first release?

- A classicly bootlegged album

- A piece of work from the Revolution years

- Something none of us even knew about

- The discussed upcoming "Black is the New Black" album Prince was planning

- The Piano & Microphone Live album

- A DVD release of a concert

- 3121 the Movie

What do you feel or wish will see a release as the first material from the Vault?

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Reply #1 posted 05/28/16 1:24am

suomynona

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None of the above. Tyka ain't releasing shit.

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Reply #2 posted 05/28/16 1:29am

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Purple!e rain with 2 bonus tracks..
Tracks that are previously released on the b side cd
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I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #3 posted 05/28/16 6:56am

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Probably the Piano and Microphone set. Or Black is the New Black.
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Reply #4 posted 05/28/16 7:00am

nonames

suomynona said:

None of the above. Tyka ain't releasing shit.


She is not going to get any income from constant touring. So she is opening he vault. When and how, we'll see, but we are getting music from the vault.
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Reply #5 posted 05/28/16 7:21am

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Piano and a Microphone. Although a video release would be better, I believe...

Followed by Roadhouse Garden.

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Reply #6 posted 05/28/16 7:27am

tollyc

suomynona said:

None of the above. Tyka ain't releasing shit.

It's not Tyka's call. She is just one of several equal members of the estate.

The reality is a corporation like Warner Bros will come along and cut each family member a check for $50m and tell them to go away.

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Reply #7 posted 05/28/16 7:52am

kookooman73

tollyc said:



suomynona said:


None of the above. Tyka ain't releasing shit.





It's not Tyka's call. She is just one of several equal members of the estate.


The reality is a corporation like Warner Bros will come along and cut each family member a check for $50m and tell them to go away.


This would benefit all. If Warners bought the entire vault it would be handled responsibly. We would get yearly releases & the contents would be professionally restored. I hope that all the non Warners catalog would also be bought by one company so these get the re-release treatment also.
Atlanta. The Final Shows should be the next release as that was his intention & surely apart from editing out some background noise the tapes are ready to go!!

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Reply #8 posted 05/28/16 9:27am

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Look at the mess created over at the Zappa household as regards the release of new posthumous FZ material and then i think everyone here would be grateful for a record company major like Warner Brothers to come along and release new Prince material themselves.

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Reply #9 posted 05/28/16 9:35am

nursev

I don't think anything will be released. Besides nobody knew how to put the music together n out there like Prince did. Somebody is bound to mess it up.
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Reply #10 posted 05/28/16 9:43am

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The already sequenced last Piano & Microphone tour will surely be the first release. The appeal of the "last show" will entice even the most casual of Prince fans.

After that, I suspect we would get already sequenced albums that are ready to go.

Once they get through those, someone will go through the miscellaneous songs and put those together for release in coherent a manner as possible.

That is how I see it goin down.


[Edited 5/28/16 9:44am]

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Reply #11 posted 05/28/16 10:29am

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Who would have even contemplated a few months ago that any of us would be wish WB got their hands on the vault... eek

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Reply #12 posted 05/28/16 10:32am

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Dangelus said:

Who would have even contemplated a few months ago that any of us would be wish WB got their hands on the vault... eek



That's been my hope all along. This needs to be handled by a major label. Sony Legacy would be another good choice (see their Dylan releases for evidence) but Prince's relationship with Sony was so brief that it wouldn't make as much sense as Warner.
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Reply #13 posted 05/28/16 11:11am

SoulAlive

I think we will get some music,but not nearly as much as some fans think.

nursev said:

I don't think anything will be released.
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Reply #14 posted 05/28/16 11:19am

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nursev said:

I don't think anything will be released. Besides nobody knew how to put the music together n out there like Prince did. Somebody is bound to mess it up.

Certainly these vault releases would only be collections, rather than sequenced albums. However, Prince's various engineers and possibly former band members might be able to provde some good input as far as organizing those collections. For certain things such as a Crystall Ball or Dream Factory collection, they might actually be able to get it close.

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Reply #15 posted 05/28/16 11:27am

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TwiliteKid said:

Dangelus said:

Who would have even contemplated a few months ago that any of us would be wish WB got their hands on the vault... eek

That's been my hope all along. This needs to be handled by a major label. Sony Legacy would be another good choice (see their Dylan releases for evidence) but Prince's relationship with Sony was so brief that it wouldn't make as much sense as Warner.

Definitely agree this needs a company with major resources to organize and put all this together. And once these do get released, no way I'm skimping out on anything. Super Deluxe versions of everything for me. Serve it all up WB! foodnow

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Reply #16 posted 05/28/16 11:33am

nursev

SoulAlive said:

I think we will get some music,but not nearly as much as some fans think.

nursev said:

I don't think anything will be released.

Well ur giving it the benefit of the doubt cuz the way things have transpired in the last month...I doubt it.

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Reply #17 posted 05/28/16 11:34am

nursev

injuredpinky said:

nursev said:

I don't think anything will be released. Besides nobody knew how to put the music together n out there like Prince did. Somebody is bound to mess it up.

Certainly these vault releases would only be collections, rather than sequenced albums. However, Prince's various engineers and possibly former band members might be able to provde some good input as far as organizing those collections. For certain things such as a Crystall Ball or Dream Factory collection, they might actually be able to get it close.

Hopefully if something is released it will happen with somebody who knew a lil bit about Princes wishes cuz if not its gonna be a mess.

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Reply #18 posted 05/28/16 11:43am

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Tyka will be fine.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #19 posted 05/28/16 12:23pm

wayhome

The Atlanta show should be the first one. I assume it would be easiest one to put out now. In a purple box wth his name embossed in gold on the front. I have a feeling we will be waiting a while for anything to come out.

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Reply #20 posted 05/28/16 12:32pm

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My feeling is it will be at least 1-2 years before we see anything released once all the dust settles. And I really hope I'm wrong and it's a lot sooner
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Reply #21 posted 05/28/16 12:32pm

Noodled24

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tollyc said:

It's not Tyka's call. She is just one of several equal members of the estate.

The reality is a corporation like Warner Bros will come along and cut each family member a check for $50m and tell them to go away.

This would benefit all. If Warners bought the entire vault it would be handled responsibly. We would get yearly releases & the contents would be professionally restored. I hope that all the non Warners catalog would also be bought by one company so these get the re-release treatment also. Atlanta. The Final Shows should be the next release as that was his intention & surely apart from editing out some background noise the tapes are ready to go!!


Would it?

WB IMO would be most likely to:

1) Cash in on Remasters.
2) Re-release the remasters with a bonus disc

3) Release endless "Best of" collections with 2 or 3 new songs each time.

Xtralovable should have been released by now. In that first month after his death - it would have broke the top 10 possibly even a number 1. By the time August rolls around I'm not sure it'll have the same effect.

I'd like to see the albums WB never allowed him to release. Studio sessions, rehearsals. The new album.

The ONLY way to do justice to the vaults IMO is to have everything digitized and put online for fans to browse through at their leisure. We're talking tens of hours of material. Add in the live recordings and you're into hundreds of hours. An NPG Music Club 2.0, if you will - with a similar subscription model.

This would allow fans to explore, tag, rate, review hours of material. This data could then be used by whomever is "in charge" to compile CDs for wider commercial release. I'm under no illusion though. This has zero chance of happening.

I suspect we'll actually get compilations like The VaultOFFS. Mainly popular outtakes already in circulation, and/or those which have music videos in the vault.

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Reply #22 posted 05/28/16 12:42pm

wayhome

I not sure if WB has anything to do with a vault material, nor do i think they would bid for any of it. Furthermore, i assume that owner ship would fall under Paisley Park Enterprises and/or NPG music publishing. Just to assemble a engineering team to "finish" an indivdual project or album would likely take considerable financial resources. They would have to take great care to get the right peple to work on any given project. It is one thing to see any project through to completion, but it is another thing entirely to finish it the right way.

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Reply #23 posted 05/28/16 6:56pm

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2020 said:

My feeling is it will be at least 1-2 years before we see anything released once all the dust settles. And I really hope I'm wrong and it's a lot sooner

Or maybe longer. It really seems up in the air at the moment.

I'm hoping WB does what Sony did with MJ. They made an agreement with the estate for a series of projects. I hope the same things happen with WB and Prince's estate.

What I'd like the first release to be is a box set of outtakes in the fashion of Bob Dylan's "Bootleg Series Vol 1-3". In fact I'd like to see WB start a "Bootleg" series of Prince's unreleased masters in addition to a remastering of the catalog.

It's just waaaaaaaay too early at this point. No point in getting excited.

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Reply #24 posted 05/29/16 1:18am

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tollyc said:

suomynona said:

None of the above. Tyka ain't releasing shit.

It's not Tyka's call. She is just one of several equal members of the estate.

The reality is a corporation like Warner Bros will come along and cut each family member a check for $50m and tell them to go away.

from your lips to God's ears wink

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Reply #25 posted 05/29/16 1:32am

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Reply #26 posted 05/29/16 1:39am

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ComeHereLetMeCutYourHair said:

tollyc said:

It's not Tyka's call. She is just one of several equal members of the estate.

The reality is a corporation like Warner Bros will come along and cut each family member a check for $50m and tell them to go away.

from your lips to God's ears wink


People still believe in god after all that's happened?

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Reply #27 posted 05/29/16 1:43am

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Knowing the music industry we will get similar shit to this and this. Good times!

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Reply #28 posted 05/29/16 3:34am

nonames

suomynona said:

Knowing the music industry we will get similar shit to this and this. Good times!


There is a very clear difference between Prince and the other one: Prince left loads of unreleased music. Even if the purple rain reissue contains a remix of the beautiful ones featuring Bieber (please don't...), there is a good chance it will also include Electric Intercourse...
We'll have to wait and see, but hopefully, as somebody mentioned, WB will offer the heirs a lot of money for the whole catalogue. And considering they are not necessarily cash fluent they will gladly accept it...
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