I actually think the studio hiatus started after 2013. Most of the last 4 albums had songs made in 2013 or prior, 2 of them were Josh produced and one of them, a live studio album (PE) was actually ready in 2013. He released quite a lot of music between 2010 and 2013 and the last four albums seem to be a consolodation of that period.

I think the sad truth might have been that no one was willing to pay his asking price upfront for his music 2011-2013 and he wasn't up to releasing it himself at the time. I've always wondered exactly how much cash the single track that was RocknRoll Love Affair cost the Purple Music guys.

Prince released Superconductor with Andy in 2012, so really there was only 2011 and 2013 without any album at all. Then we got 2 albums in 2014 and 3 (including Back In Time) in 2015, so Prince kinba caught up

No such big deal really, there were no albums in 1983, 2000 and 2005 either, + there was a shitload of internet tracks in 2011-2013.

We were just spoiled.

databank said:

Prince released Superconductor with Andy in 2012, so really there was only 2011 and 2013 without any album at all. Then we got 2 albums in 2014 and 3 (including Back In Time) in 2015, so Prince kinba caught up

No such big deal really, there were no albums in 1983, 2000 and 2005 either, + there was a shitload of internet tracks in 2011-2013.

We were just spoiled.

True that. Maybe it's time I really sit down and appreciate Superconductor as well.

databank said:

Prince released Superconductor with Andy in 2012, so really there was only 2011 and 2013 without any album at all. Then we got 2 albums in 2014 and 3 (including Back In Time) in 2015, so Prince kinba caught up

No such big deal really, there were no albums in 1983, 2000 and 2005 either, + there was a shitload of internet tracks in 2011-2013.

We were just spoiled.

True, we were spoiled.

There was also no album in 1997, right? So 1983, 1997, 2000, 2005, 2011, 2012, 2013.

There was Welcome 2 America album planned for release around 2011.

So many projects were probably being worked on and just did not come out.

- 2010 (20TEN Deluxe)

- 2011 (Welcome 2 America)

- 2012/2013 - Possibly an album with Screwdriver, Loosen Up, Only Heaven Knows, U Will B (there was a poem mentioning all these songs posted on Dr. Funkenberry....the usual Prince style of a tracklist)...

Here is the "poem". IIRC, 3 songs were seen up on the 3rdEyeGirl website for like 2 minutes (The Sun in The Sky, 1 in Your Heart, Loosen Up).

"Like The Sun In The Sky,

There’s 1 In Ur Heart.

We’re Supposed 2 B 2gether,

And Not Apart.

Counterclockwise,

U Got 2 Turn Around.

Then, Nothing And Nobody Can Bring Us Down.

Eye Know U’re Smart, Eye Know U’re Fine.

But, U Got 2 Look At How We’re Designed.

Sometimes, U Need 2 Let Go.

Sometimes, U Need 2 Unwind.

Sometimes, U Just Got 2 Loosen Up.

Loosen Up Ur Behind And Let It Move, Just Let It Move.

Listen 2 The Music, Listen 2 The Sound.

Spin The Same Way The Rest Of The Stars Spin Around.

If U Keep Going The Way The Race Cars Go,

Ain’t No Way Tellin’ Where U’ll B, Only Heaven Knows.

There’s A Reason Even Time Spins That Way.

If U’re Always On The Clock, U Can Never Stay.

U’re Supposed 2 B With Me, And Eye’m Supposed 2 B With U,

Cuz Eye’m Ur Driver, And U’re My Screw."

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[Edited 5/27/16 4:54am]

Didn't Prince say he had a lot of hip problems and pain in those years.

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Anyway, there may not have been albums in those years but he released over the internet many studio and live tracks filing muliple albums - in my mind, he did release albums, but we just got the tracks released through digital channels.

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MMJas said:

databank said:

Prince released Superconductor with Andy in 2012, so really there was only 2011 and 2013 without any album at all. Then we got 2 albums in 2014 and 3 (including Back In Time) in 2015, so Prince kinba caught up

No such big deal really, there were no albums in 1983, 2000 and 2005 either, + there was a shitload of internet tracks in 2011-2013.

We were just spoiled.

True, we were spoiled.

There was also no album in 1997, right? So 1983, 1997, 2000, 2005, 2011, 2012, 2013.

Technically there was Kamasutra in 1997 though it was a very limited, cassette only release.

Technically there was also Rave 2000 in 2000, which I didn't think of because video album.

So years without any album including side projects and video albums would be only 83 and 05.

Years without proper "Prince" album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 11, 12, 13.

Years without proper "Prince" studio album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 08, 11, 12, 13.

databank said:

MMJas said:

True, we were spoiled.

There was also no album in 1997, right? So 1983, 1997, 2000, 2005, 2011, 2012, 2013.

Technically there was Kamasutra in 1997 though it was a very limited, cassette only release.

Technically there was also Rave 2000 in 2000, which I didn't think of because video album.

So years without any album including side projects and video albums would be only 83 and 05.

Years without proper "Prince" album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 11, 12, 13.

Years without proper "Prince" studio album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 08, 11, 12, 13.

Wasn't that released in 1998?

Don't mention Rave 2000 to me, please! I had the DVD and my kids kept putting it on all the time anbd eventually broke it! Could never find a replacement for it.

databank said:

MMJas said:

True, we were spoiled.

There was also no album in 1997, right? So 1983, 1997, 2000, 2005, 2011, 2012, 2013.

Technically there was Kamasutra in 1997 though it was a very limited, cassette only release.

Technically there was also Rave 2000 in 2000, which I didn't think of because video album.

So years without any album including side projects and video albums would be only 83 and 05.

Years without proper "Prince" album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 11, 12, 13.

Years without proper "Prince" studio album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 08, 11, 12, 13.

I just wanted the Arsenio interview last night. Prince talked about not feeling the need to release albums anymore. He said he writes all the time, and they (the band) have favorites, but they kind of wait until they have a group of songs that go together, before they put something out. He also said because he wasn't under a contract to do so, he didn't feel the push to do something just because it was written down. He talked about it being a singles driven market, and how he's old school and would buy albums, and that he'll always make albums. Of course he put out singles here and there, but that was more about letting music out, not "Oh, here's a new single!" It was just music in general, sometimes without an attached project to promote.

In contrast, I also watched the first segment of the Vibe interview. Even in 1998, he was talking about buying records, and playing records, not singles. He was quite consistent on what he said there, and 16 or 17 years later. So - if he just didn't feel the need to release an album as much in recent years, it makes sense. While I'm not overtly thrilled with his output in the last 15 years, he certain seemed more purposeful in what he was doing.

thx185 said:

Prince made available over 30 tracks "loose" on various streams, radio programs, and media outlets from late 2009 until the double releases of AOA and PE.

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These include jams like Cause and Effect, Hot Summer, Rich Friends, SPDB, to the early versions (and alt. versions) of 3EG stuff. There's about a whole albums worth of 3EG stuff that came out this way before PE that is not on PE. Octupus Heart, Boyfriend, Menstrual Cycle, Live Out Loud, etc.

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I collected about 13 tracks on my own from that era, then later found a fan compilation with 30 tracks, and I don't think that's all of it when you add in the live 3EG rehearsals/performances that would randomly stream on YouTube and stuff.

Hi what was the name of this compilation? I'd love to find it. thanks.

beachy said:

thx185 said:

Prince made available over 30 tracks "loose" on various streams, radio programs, and media outlets from late 2009 until the double releases of AOA and PE.

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These include jams like Cause and Effect, Hot Summer, Rich Friends, SPDB, to the early versions (and alt. versions) of 3EG stuff. There's about a whole albums worth of 3EG stuff that came out this way before PE that is not on PE. Octupus Heart, Boyfriend, Menstrual Cycle, Live Out Loud, etc.

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I collected about 13 tracks on my own from that era, then later found a fan compilation with 30 tracks, and I don't think that's all of it when you add in the live 3EG rehearsals/performances that would randomly stream on YouTube and stuff.

Hi what was the name of this compilation? I'd love to find it. thanks.

Hey there, tthe 30 track one is called The Evolution.

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Then just last night I learned that even more stuff (a lot more) was streamed live by prince & 3EG through 3rdEyeTV. There are compilations of that stuff too, including one called The Best of 3rdEyeTV. I have vol 1 and I think there may be more. Volume 1 has 28 tracks, and only 2 of them are repeats from The Evolution.

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So even though Prince didn't put out an album between 20ten and AOA/PE, there was no music hiatus. He released tons and tons of music through streaming and as digital singles during that time.

TrivialPursuit said:

databank said:

Technically there was Kamasutra in 1997 though it was a very limited, cassette only release.

Technically there was also Rave 2000 in 2000, which I didn't think of because video album.

So years without any album including side projects and video albums would be only 83 and 05.

Years without proper "Prince" album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 11, 12, 13.

Years without proper "Prince" studio album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 08, 11, 12, 13.

I just wanted the Arsenio interview last night. Prince talked about not feeling the need to release albums anymore. He said he writes all the time, and they (the band) have favorites, but they kind of wait until they have a group of songs that go together, before they put something out. He also said because he wasn't under a contract to do so, he didn't feel the push to do something just because it was written down. He talked about it being a singles driven market, and how he's old school and would buy albums, and that he'll always make albums. Of course he put out singles here and there, but that was more about letting music out, not "Oh, here's a new single!" It was just music in general, sometimes without an attached project to promote.

In contrast, I also watched the first segment of the Vibe interview. Even in 1998, he was talking about buying records, and playing records, not singles. He was quite consistent on what he said there, and 16 or 17 years later. So - if he just didn't feel the need to release an album as much in recent years, it makes sense. While I'm not overtly thrilled with his output in the last 15 years, he certain seemed more purposeful in what he was doing.

i love prince but he sure seemed to make himself miserable sometimes over the headaches of the business. I'm not saying he didn't have reasons but he still had it better than damn near 100 percent of professional musicians.

LIke I explained it two years ago, the four years gap is because he fucked all his chances to release an album via a major recordig company. He fucked Warner, he fucked Sony (PLANET EARTH was released free in the UK), he fucked the retailers, he fucked former labels that was bought by major companies (BMG, ARISTA).

SO nobody wanted to sign with him anymore, because everybody knew Prince won't make any promotion after the initial release.

In february 2014, he tried very hard to sell PLECTRUM ELECTRUM, annoucing to various medias this album will be released soon. But he never found a deal.

When an artist release a new album, his catalogue is selling. But Sony, for some reasons, can't re-release MUSICOLOGY, PLanet earth, etc.

SO, his only chance to release PLEC ELEC, and any other new albums was to sign a deal with Warner, promising them the PURPLE RAIN remasters. ANd remember, this deal sucked a lot from the start because it din't include the music videos.

There were talk of making PURPLE RAIN 2014 huge, a tour, promotionnal tvs, etc. This was said from various insiders, including the FUNKU french internet magazine. BUt Prince said he wanted first to release AOA and PLEC ELEC, the same fucking day.

Everybody know the ending of this story : Prince didn't bother to make any promotion at all. AOA and PLEC ELEC were the biggest flops of his carreer to this date.

So they cancelled the PURPLE RAIN reedition, because without Prince involved, it would haven't make any sense.

Marco81 said:

So many projects were probably being worked on and just did not come out.

- 2010 (20TEN Deluxe)

- 2011 (Welcome 2 America)

- 2012/2013 - Possibly an album with Screwdriver, Loosen Up, Only Heaven Knows, U Will B (there was a poem mentioning all these songs posted on Dr. Funkenberry....the usual Prince style of a tracklist)...

Here is the "poem". IIRC, 3 songs were seen up on the 3rdEyeGirl website for like 2 minutes (The Sun in The Sky, 1 in Your Heart, Loosen Up).

"Like The Sun In The Sky,

There’s 1 In Ur Heart.

We’re Supposed 2 B 2gether,

And Not Apart.

Counterclockwise,

U Got 2 Turn Around.

Then, Nothing And Nobody Can Bring Us Down.

Eye Know U’re Smart, Eye Know U’re Fine.

But, U Got 2 Look At How We’re Designed.

Sometimes, U Need 2 Let Go.

Sometimes, U Need 2 Unwind.

Sometimes, U Just Got 2 Loosen Up.

Loosen Up Ur Behind And Let It Move, Just Let It Move.

Listen 2 The Music, Listen 2 The Sound.

Spin The Same Way The Rest Of The Stars Spin Around.

If U Keep Going The Way The Race Cars Go,

Ain’t No Way Tellin’ Where U’ll B, Only Heaven Knows.

There’s A Reason Even Time Spins That Way.

If U’re Always On The Clock, U Can Never Stay.

U’re Supposed 2 B With Me, And Eye’m Supposed 2 B With U,

Cuz Eye’m Ur Driver, And U’re My Screw."

[Edited 5/27/16 4:52am]

[Edited 5/27/16 4:54am]

If you read this list of songs from last to 1st title it reads like a short poem story............

anywho thats not what the thread is about...... just my thoughts i'd share cause i noticed it, the list flowed so well,

however I think there was somethings P was going through...... ( a since of lost) in people per say he was use to maybe be inspired by.... maybe inspiration was not there the way he needed,

Meaning more of a really love/ly romantic.... feel........ this maybe why some pauses here or there but he continued to put out nice music... my opinion

but I think there was some love he was searching for........... i think there was searching still for that root faith .... lots of questions .... even though said being JW, love interest that may not happened the way he wanted, people that may have not been around that he got that positive feel, flow energy from.... to bring that gleam and sparkle back.....

well those my thoughts, thanks for the nice list blessings awlays

Honeybabe.... sweet

MMJas said:

databank said:

Technically there was Kamasutra in 1997 though it was a very limited, cassette only release.

Technically there was also Rave 2000 in 2000, which I didn't think of because video album.

So years without any album including side projects and video albums would be only 83 and 05.

Years without proper "Prince" album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 11, 12, 13.

Years without proper "Prince" studio album in audio only would be 83, 93, 97, 00, 05, 08, 11, 12, 13.

Wasn't that released in 1998?

The cassette was released on February 14, 1997 thru 1-800 New Funk.

Rave 2000 is pretty easy to replace, it was in prints for years, maybe even still is.

[Edited 5/28/16 2:54am]

NorthC said:

Marco81 said:

PeteSilas said:

maybe he just got tired of busting his ass to put out an album per year only to have people shit all over it.

Nailed it.

Things definitely escalated with fans around this time. Bria Valente got a lot of personal abuse. This is clear from watching her on Travis.

It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that Prince just said "fuck it". Perhaps hoping that with a waiting period between this and his next release fans might be more receptive/appreciative

OperatingThetan said:

OperatingThetan said:

Marco81 said:

So many projects were probably being worked on and just did not come out.

- 2010 (20TEN Deluxe)

- 2011 (Welcome 2 America)

- 2012/2013 - Possibly an album with Screwdriver, Loosen Up, Only Heaven Knows, U Will B (there was a poem mentioning all these songs posted on Dr. Funkenberry....the usual Prince style of a tracklist)...

Here is the "poem". IIRC, 3 songs were seen up on the 3rdEyeGirl website for like 2 minutes (The Sun in The Sky, 1 in Your Heart, Loosen Up).

"Like The Sun In The Sky,

There’s 1 In Ur Heart.

We’re Supposed 2 B 2gether,

And Not Apart.

Counterclockwise,

U Got 2 Turn Around.

Then, Nothing And Nobody Can Bring Us Down.

Eye Know U’re Smart, Eye Know U’re Fine.

But, U Got 2 Look At How We’re Designed.

Sometimes, U Need 2 Let Go.

Sometimes, U Need 2 Unwind.

Sometimes, U Just Got 2 Loosen Up.

Loosen Up Ur Behind And Let It Move, Just Let It Move.

Listen 2 The Music, Listen 2 The Sound.

Spin The Same Way The Rest Of The Stars Spin Around.

If U Keep Going The Way The Race Cars Go,

Ain’t No Way Tellin’ Where U’ll B, Only Heaven Knows.

There’s A Reason Even Time Spins That Way.

If U’re Always On The Clock, U Can Never Stay.

U’re Supposed 2 B With Me, And Eye’m Supposed 2 B With U,

Cuz Eye’m Ur Driver, And U’re My Screw."

[Edited 5/27/16 4:52am]

[Edited 5/27/16 4:54am]

This. I think there were many albums during this period that didn't see release. For example, 2010 was originally a 2 disc set (i.e. 20 songs, 10 on each disc). Of the second disc only Hot Summer and Cause & Effect have been heard.

Wouldn't have Rich Friends have been on that aswell?

McD said:

jaawwnn said:

jaawwnn said: