Mumio said:

Truthfully, NO ONE is going to cop to seeing any drugs anywhere around Prince or seeing Prince use them. Given the investigation that is going on, they know damn well they'd be bringing a world of shit down on themselves to say otherwise so that's not gonna happen. Not buying any of it, but also not saying that I think anyone is responsible for what happened to Prince.

duccichucka said:

Didn't one of Prince's bodyguards come out and claim that he never saw Prince using/abusing
drugs?

[Edited 5/23/16 14:33pm]

...like i said...even after his death ...no ones talking.....let it go

Charlie Wilson needs to stfu.

The comment section of that Youtube video is !!! ....I don't know if he's taking a shot, but he's losing some "Ol' Skool Unca Charlie" fans in the comments (Women).

He seems ...a little loose during the interview too...

He should enjoy his life.. He's still here.. Let it go ...............

[Edited 5/23/16 19:50pm]

Look at the interviewer's face while Charlie is wrapping-up his speech!

babynoz said:

PeteSilas said:

neckbone ain't a real place is it? sorry to ask but that would be fucked up if it was, be like naming a town hambone or something.

Neckbone is five miles south of Bumfuck.

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Neckbone ain't a real place, but Alligator, Bobo, Hot Coffee, Cold Water, Soso, and It are all towns in Mississippi. My first high school girlfriend was from Bobo. However, a boy from Alligator wanted to fight me for her, and wasn't no way in hell I was going to fight a dude from Alligator over no dame.

1725topp said:

babynoz said:

Neckbone is five miles south of Bumfuck.

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Neckbone ain't a real place, but Alligator, Bobo, Hot Coffee, Cold Water, Soso, and It are all towns in Mississippi. My first high school girlfriend was from Bobo. However, a boy from Alligator wanted to fight me for her, and wasn't no way in hell I was going to fight a dude from Alligator over no dame.

LOL....I figured but I was teasing PeteSilas.

I suppose the only thing worse than fighting somebody from alligator is getting beat up by a guy from bobo.

h4rm0ny said:

PeteSilas said:

lastdecember said:

Again it is all speculation, this man was so very private I DOUBT highly he would do drugs in front of people, its that simple. If he was doing them and i say a big IF, Charlie fucking Wilson would be near the bottom of the list of people that would know, this man was not even in Prince's circle. Again we DO NOT know, and honestly we are not ever gonna know because this man died alone and spent most of his time Private and alone. So if the cause was pain meds, or something mixed to it, or a heart attack brought on by it, or some kind of Cancer that he would not let doctors treat he was doing it on his own, and just could not manage it, even now the Minneapolis news said that he was dead for almost 6 hours but also added that Prince had been to the hospital the day before and fluid was injected into him, now to me, that screams medical issues, and not the Hip thing. But again what ever comes out, he is not here, so people like Charlie and Sinead and ex girls or people from his childhood can say this or that to catch some views on Youtube but its all speculation whether they say ITS TRUE or not, don't matter, cause he ain't here.

what makes you think we'll never know? I think the docs know enough to figure out what killed him, or what contributed to killing him, or whether he had cancer or a heart attack. There are just so many wierd, bizarre things that seem to support all theories of his death. Like his life, it's a mystery that makes you want to know more. just never saw prince going out like this. Michael was a broken man and I felt terribly about his last 15 or so years but Prince was more grounded and disciplined. Like I keep saying, he was never sloppy or had performances where people said he was stoned or drugged (outside of a couple rarities) nothing like michael had in 2001 when he was obviously not in any shape to perform, or whitney who just spent the last years of her life trying to recapture a voice she ruined with drugs or amy winehouse who put on some drunk performances or Elvis who slurred for several years onstage. Prince was never so out of control that that happened and I just find it hard to reconcile with what I know about him. But, if it comes ou that that's what happened, so be it.

No one ever saw this coming even when the whole incident with the plane happened. Again I am just saying the way he lived (privately) is also how he died. He was often alone, and he died alone. My saying that we will never know is a fact, we will never know the details leading to his death, we were not in Paisley that night, we may get spurts of info about what was going on prior to and even if there was another health issue that was being treated, THOUGH, as far as I know that legally does not have to be released. Thats what I mean by we will never know, we don't know what happened, he was seen at I beleive 8pm that night and then that was it, they are saying he was dead at least 6 hours so that is more looking like things changed very quickly from being dropped off to being found lifeless. That to me is more than hip pain.

As for Charlie like I said he was not in his circle, they had history and contact but again Prince was the type to hang out with people like that. If Prince was addicted to pain medication which is very possible and has happened to many people suffering from back pain, and various other types of pain. I mean people like Chevy Chase, Bill Murray. and others all had issues with it, even Johnny Mathis back in the day (yes johnny) had an addiction to pain medication he was given while recovering from surgery. So the privacy factor creeps in again, PRINCE if addicted never would want this out, in my mind, that is what was causing this "agitated" state people spoke about, I think he might have known that this was going to now get out and he was so private that now that "wall" of secrets was gone, again speculation, but someone spoke about this earlier that, his "feeling" of being the one who can always handle things and be in control and not have issues, may have struck some guilt and fear inside of him. I mean really we don't know and to be dismissive and say "oh it was addiction" it always gets you, is pretty unfair which is why Charlie like Gene Simmons should worry about their own lives.

do you think there were any ill feelings from Prince because after a long drug battle and being homeless, Charilie resurrected his career from the dead and became the king of Adult R&B radio while Prince was releasing albums at the same time and wasn't getting anywhere near the same support from that radio format?

SoulAlive said:

h4rm0ny said:

Charlie Wilson needs to stfu.

I agree.I hate when people get on their high horse and start judging others,especially without knowing all the facts.

Charlie is talking all of this after Prince is gone.... knowing that his friend, Rick, had ailments that hurt him as the result of drug usage.. So, he's basically speaking before knowledge, and joking about "shaking", and leaving shows... Rick cut-short a Music Midtown performance in ATL a while ago...

I like Charlie, but I can see why he is receiving the negative responses that he has.. Judging from the video of the interview, he attempted to end his diatribe on a good-note, because he probably knows that he said too much..

[Edited 5/24/16 14:03pm]

kitbradley said:

do you think there were any ill feelings from Prince because after a long drug battle and being homeless, Charilie resurrected his career from the dead and became the king of Adult R&B radio while Prince was releasing albums at the same time and wasn't getting anywhere near the same support from that radio format?

To my knowledge, Prince has not said anything negative about The Gap Band at all...

James pulled a pistol on Andre Cymone (According to Andre), and Big Chick walked around lifting Prince above the crowds when it was Rick's time to perform...

James claimed that he talked to Prince about creating a girl-group, and Prince took Vanity, and formed Vanity 6 before Rick could release his group, "The Mary James girls."

Other than those, I don't know.

An ex-classmate joked that Prince was a lightskin wonderkid --who just appeared with all of the fan fare, and the big black funk band era ended afterwards...

My brother saw Prince open-up for Rick.... He said Prince was better... Mostly young blacks were at the concert.

I did not like Prince's New Wave tracks, persona, or era... Rick was funk all the wave..He toured Europe with nothing but funk.

Gap Band was more R&B than funk.

Musicology ATL 2004 (Prince paid tribute to Rick James in Philips Arena that night).

Whatever Charlie has to say...He should.. If PRince slighted him.. But if the market-makers, overlooked him for Prince, or Prince did somethign to him--he should say it.

[Edited 5/24/16 7:26am]

Charlie was singing on Rick James song, "The Good Ole Days".

Rick names most of his friends in "The Funk Era"..No mention of Prince at all..(He mentions Georgie Clinton and P Funk)

Roger and Zapp are not mentioned either... Roger liked Prince at a time (Shout-out in a song).

most legendary Rick James/Prince anecdote:

"..There was a birthday party for me. Prince came, he was sitting at a table with some people not drinking. I walked up to him, grabbed him by the back of the hair and poured cognac down his throat. He spit it out like a little bitch and I laughed and walked away. I loved fucking with him like that..."

imagine if this happened during the cell phone/digitalcamera era...Prince's career would've been over before it started...getting punked out, all on TMZ and instagram and facebook...

What's Beef?

jazzvirtuoso said:

Wow! Talk about irony.. Here's the real back story: Prince had a party gap band showed up, they showed up high when Prince recognized that Charlie was using drugs he had his bodyguard to throw them ALL out. Very hypocritical of Charlie to act like a saint when he was often seen on the streets begging for crack money. This man is in no position to judge, critique or lecture on Prince problems with substance abuse, at least Prince wasn't on recreational drugs like crack. Charlie better be careful open his mouth one time to many and end up with no fans. Charlie Wilson's body language is terrible, same reason I got rid of my old guitar player, great musician but terrible character.

Well said. Great point about body language - I noticed that as well. Sit up straight and talk straight like a man. He was acting like a crackhead and being too chicken shit to articulate himself like a normal person. I would know he was an addict without knowing him just from that clip - and as such, I would give him no credibility.

No disrespect to Rick (I'm a old fan), but I think the "battle" between Rick and P was only in Rick's mind. I know he was angry that P ignored Rick's mom at a show, stole Vanity, etc.. but P moved on to bigger and better things after opening for Rick. Hell, even Shelia said (in 1985) that Rick's videos were starting to look like "P.R." outtakes...(She probably meant the "Glow" video..one of the extras in "P.R" is in that video too.)...Rick even spoke about his own movie ("A Spice Of Life") that was in the works, but it never happened..and look at his photos from the "Wonderful" era......And I liked the GAP Band, but Charlie needs to pay Bernie Worrell and P-Funk some royalties for stealing all of their synth bass lines for most of their later songs.

SoulAlive said:

"Disrespect" by The Gap Band (1985)

never heard this Gap Band track before. I gotta admit, this is pretty funky! this might sound strange coming from a P fan but on the strength of the musical merits of this track I'm gonna check out their catalogue

Astasheiks said:

FUNKYNESS said:

I remember that and I never understood why they would go to that length to dump on Prince.

I got check out this "Disrespect" song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uidJejVfQwI

The poster says he was the lead animator on the project. Someone should ask him if the character in the video was meant to be Prince. I don't jave a youtube account.

mightycow said:

SoulAlive said:

"Disrespect" by The Gap Band (1985)

never heard this Gap Band track before. I gotta admit, this is pretty funky! this might sound strange coming from a P fan but on the strength of the musical merits of this track I'm gonna check out their catalogue

If you can look past Charlie Wilson's ignorant comments, the Gap Band had some good tunes way back in the day...

purplethunder3121 said:

mightycow said:

never heard this Gap Band track before. I gotta admit, this is pretty funky! this might sound strange coming from a P fan but on the strength of the musical merits of this track I'm gonna check out their catalogue

If you can look past Charlie Wilson's ignorant comments, the Gap Band had some good tunes way back in the day...

hell ya they did, they were funk heroes. burn rubber and bomb is funky as anything in the era.

jazzvirtuoso said:

Wow! Talk about irony.. Here's the real back story: Prince had a party gap band showed up, they showed up high when Prince recognized that Charlie was using drugs he had his bodyguard to throw them ALL out. Very hypocritical of Charlie to act like a saint when he was often seen on the streets begging for crack money. This man is in no position to judge, critique or lecture on Prince problems with substance abuse, at least Prince wasn't on recreational drugs like crack. Charlie better be careful open his mouth one time to many and end up with no fans. Charlie Wilson's body language is terrible, same reason I got rid of my old guitar player, great musician but terrible character.

Well, like Charlie said it all comes out in the end. That explains why he was damn near gloating. Like it gave him a feeling of vindication that Prince may have died as a result of drug misuse.

purplethunder3121 said:

mightycow said:

never heard this Gap Band track before. I gotta admit, this is pretty funky! this might sound strange coming from a P fan but on the strength of the musical merits of this track I'm gonna check out their catalogue

If you can look past Charlie Wilson's ignorant comments, the Gap Band had some good tunes way back in the day...

I can hear elements of "Controversy" in it...

[Edited 5/24/16 14:11pm]

jazzvirtuoso said:

Wow! Talk about irony.. Here's the real back story: Prince had a party gap band showed up, they showed up high when Prince recognized that Charlie was using drugs he had his bodyguard to throw them ALL out. Very hypocritical of Charlie to act like a saint when he was often seen on the streets begging for crack money. This man is in no position to judge, critique or lecture on Prince problems with substance abuse, at least Prince wasn't on recreational drugs like crack. Charlie better be careful open his mouth one time to many and end up with no fans. Charlie Wilson's body language is terrible, same reason I got rid of my old guitar player, great musician but terrible character.

You mean to tell me that:

1) "Disrespect" was not about Prince not being a "Man of the people", but about the Gap Band being kicked-out of his party for drugs?

2) That Charlie is judging as a former addict himself--as if he never did drugs... He never was hooked (Accidently) for taking prescribed drugs..?

PeteSilas said:

PeteSilas said:

I like Charlie Wilson but he needs to seat ALL the way down and he sounds very full of himself here. The autospy results have not came in yet and there has not been a cause of death so why is he assuming its drug related? Why is he implying Prince was a drug addict? He really needs to cut the crap with insisting he has no dirty laundry. CHARLIE Wilson was a drug addict for over 20 something years and was living on the street. He talks like he is born again "angel" that has some authority to dictate the fate of others. I am glad he is doing better but he is far from perfect and his past struggles have nothing to do with how Prince died.

babynoz said:

1725topp said:

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Neckbone ain't a real place, but Alligator, Bobo, Hot Coffee, Cold Water, Soso, and It are all towns in Mississippi. My first high school girlfriend was from Bobo. However, a boy from Alligator wanted to fight me for her, and wasn't no way in hell I was going to fight a dude from Alligator over no dame.

LOL....I figured but I was teasing PeteSilas.

I suppose the only thing worse than fighting somebody from alligator is getting beat up by a guy from bobo.

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What's even worse is that my Bobo girlfriend tried to beat me up for not being "man enough" to fight the guy from Alligator for her. It was then and there that I realize that, while I am a proud country boy, I'm a country nerd and found me a girlfriend who liked study hall and Prince music as much as I did.

1725topp said:

babynoz said:

LOL....I figured but I was teasing PeteSilas.

I suppose the only thing worse than fighting somebody from alligator is getting beat up by a guy from bobo.

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What's even worse is that my Bobo girlfriend tried to beat me up for not being "man enough" to fight the guy from Alligator for her. It was then and there that I realize that, while I am a proud country boy, I'm a country nerd and found me a girlfriend who liked study hall and Prince music as much as I did.

It was either that or move to another state.