Aerogram said:

The Arms of Orion
Graffiti Bridge
Jughead
3 Chains o' Gold
Mr. Happy
Friend Lover, Sister Mother,wife
Work the P.
Strays of the world
Eye Like Funky Music
Rave on to the joy fantastic (from the Rave album)
Everyday is a Winding road
Life of the party
Incense and candles
Chocolate Box
Purple and Gold
Boy Trouble
Stop This Train

Strays of the World is one of my favorite Prince songs of that early 90s era, and also one of my favorite Prince songs in general. And the band really liked it, too. I think it should have been the last song on the Come album like it was planned to be . Would have made the whole concept behind Come so much better and cohesive.

Why do you dislike it?

KingSausage said:

Two things: 1) It's amazing how much people disagree about which songs are shitty. There's very little consensus. 2) I listen to a TON of shitty Prince. Is it a guilty pleasure, maybe? But I ain't about to stop!

There´s no such thing as "shitty Prince".

I know a young guy...aged 19 or 20....not a big Prince fan. But his dad , a fiftysomething bald headed dude, is a big Prince fan.

So this young guy went on a vacation with his dad and the whole family in a comparatively small car. They travelled for days in that tiny little car and the only CD they had with them was Planet Earth.

When they got back from their vacation the 20 year old guy I know knew all the songs on that album and bopped his head to pretty much every single song. He still thinks that Planet Earth is a great album.

I just feel so happy and it melts my heart every single time i listen to Strollin; it really feels great to be alive.

All of Plectrum Electrum except Anotherlove.

My god the lyrics are so bad.

KoolEaze said:

I really like the bolded songs. Shy was , at the time , considered to be one of the best songs on TGE, but to each his own.

I´m one of the few people on the org who unapologetically likes Lion of Judah. I think if this was recorded and released in the 80s, or if it were an outtake or b-side from the 80s, people would love it and go nuts over it. The music is pretty good, it´s a solid rocker that does not sound as sterile and clean as most of his newer rock songs. The only thing I dislike about it is the chorus...that biblical allegory does nothing for me and reminds me too much of some reggae song. Not the whole song but just that Lion of Judah reference.

Could have been such a strong song if the chorus were different.

What do you dislike about it?

Just curious.

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I've went back n' forth with Planet Earth for years. I used to be a big supporter of it, way over Musicology which I was not happy with. For now, I like about half of Planet Earth. I tend to agree with you about his rock songs having a more sterile sound in later years. (I made similar comments about even more recent work being acrylic on a thread Alex Hahn started the other day.)

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I think I became almost angry at Prince's overt religious pontificating from 2001 onward. "God" vs something like "Avalanche" or "1+1+1=3" is night and day for me. I became resentful of his doctrine entering his songs in such a bold way. (I still can't really listen to The Rainbow Children, although I did give a full go last week.) "Lion of Judah" is just ....one of those songs.

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I do like the music to it, mostly. It sounds a bit unfinished, but with some touching up, and new lyrics & medley, it could have been quite radio friendly. But, for half his career basically he was preaching at folks in some fashion (that being 2001 onward, but really perhaps 1999 onward, with the stopping cursing stuff). I just didn't want to hear that from him. Knowing he was going to do whatever he wanted, I just took things w/ a grain of salt.

TrivialPursuit said:

KoolEaze said:

I really like the bolded songs. Shy was , at the time , considered to be one of the best songs on TGE, but to each his own.

I´m one of the few people on the org who unapologetically likes Lion of Judah. I think if this was recorded and released in the 80s, or if it were an outtake or b-side from the 80s, people would love it and go nuts over it. The music is pretty good, it´s a solid rocker that does not sound as sterile and clean as most of his newer rock songs. The only thing I dislike about it is the chorus...that biblical allegory does nothing for me and reminds me too much of some reggae song. Not the whole song but just that Lion of Judah reference.

Could have been such a strong song if the chorus were different.

What do you dislike about it?

Just curious.

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I've went back n' forth with Planet Earth for years. I used to be a big supporter of it, way over Musicology which I was not happy with. For now, I like about half of Planet Earth. I tend to agree with you about his rock songs having a more sterile sound in later years. (I made similar comments about even more recent work being acrylic on a thread Alex Hahn started the other day.)

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I think I became almost angry at Prince's overt religious pontificating from 2001 onward. "God" vs something like "Avalanche" or "1+1+1=3" is night and day for me. I became resentful of his doctrine entering his songs in such a bold way. (I still can't really listen to The Rainbow Children, although I did give a full go last week.) "Lion of Judah" is just ....one of those songs.

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I do like the music to it, mostly. It sounds a bit unfinished, but with some touching up, and new lyrics & medley, it could have been quite radio friendly. But, for half his career basically he was preaching at folks in some fashion (that being 2001 onward, but really perhaps 1999 onward, with the stopping cursing stuff). I just didn't want to hear that from him. Knowing he was going to do whatever he wanted, I just took things w/ a grain of salt.

Interesting.

We both seem to dislike the same things about that song. But, unlike you, I like the unfinished sound of that song for that very reason....because it sounds rawer than most of his more polished, overproduced rock songs of recent years.

I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion regarding doctrine but when you think about it, there is not really that much of a religious doctrine in Lion of Judah.....except for that allegory in the title.

That title just sounds a bit odd to me. The whole chorus does sound odd to me.

Could have been so much more popular if it was a bit catchier, a bit easier to get into.

But that Lion of Judah reference just doesn´t gel with the rest of the lyrics.

KingSausage said:

Wait, wait...can we go back to how OP dissed EXODUS?!?!

I know, right! I love Exoudus, and have been playing it a lot lately. the segues are goofy, but all the songs are good!

thekidsgirl said:

KingSausage said:

Wait, wait...can we go back to how OP dissed EXODUS?!?!

I know, right! I love Exoudus, and have been playing it a lot lately. the segues are goofy, but all the songs are good!

I love The Good Life and Count the Days.

I love the other songs as well but Count the Days is such an underrated, misunderstood masterpiece.

And I love the autobiographical parts in The Good Life.

KoolEaze said:

Aerogram said:

The Arms of Orion
Graffiti Bridge
Jughead
3 Chains o' Gold
Mr. Happy
Friend Lover, Sister Mother,wife
Work the P.
Strays of the world
Eye Like Funky Music
Rave on to the joy fantastic (from the Rave album)
Everyday is a Winding road
Life of the party
Incense and candles
Chocolate Box
Purple and Gold
Boy Trouble
Stop This Train

Strays of the World is one of my favorite Prince songs of that early 90s era, and also one of my favorite Prince songs in general. And the band really liked it, too. I think it should have been the last song on the Come album like it was planned to be . Would have made the whole concept behind Come so much better and cohesive.

Why do you dislike it?

Because I'm me and you're you. It's just too much of TOO MUCH. There are certain things I dislike in music, food, movies, literature, etc. Other people are within their right to love, love, love The English Patient, finely chopped onions, the novels of Emily Bronte, etc. but me they're just not my cup of tea.

KoolEaze said:

KingSausage said:

Two things: 1) It's amazing how much people disagree about which songs are shitty. There's very little consensus. 2) I listen to a TON of shitty Prince. Is it a guilty pleasure, maybe? But I ain't about to stop!

There´s no such thing as "shitty Prince".

I know a young guy...aged 19 or 20....not a big Prince fan. But his dad , a fiftysomething bald headed dude, is a big Prince fan.

So this young guy went on a vacation with his dad and the whole family in a comparatively small car. They travelled for days in that tiny little car and the only CD they had with them was Planet Earth.

When they got back from their vacation the 20 year old guy I know knew all the songs on that album and bopped his head to pretty much every single song. He still thinks that Planet Earth is a great album.

Poor guy! It's like a musical Stockholm Syndrome then?

Aerogram said:

KoolEaze said:

thekidsgirl said:

I know, right! I love Exoudus, and have been playing it a lot lately. the segues are goofy, but all the songs are good!

I love The Good Life and Count the Days.

I love the other songs as well but Count the Days is such an underrated, misunderstood masterpiece.

And I love the autobiographical parts in The Good Life.

Both songs are gems to me too! Only actual song I pass on that album is Hallucination Rain really.

thekidsgirl said:

KoolEaze said:

I love The Good Life and Count the Days.

I love the other songs as well but Count the Days is such an underrated, misunderstood masterpiece.

And I love the autobiographical parts in The Good Life.

Both songs are gems to me too! Only actual song I pass on that album is Hallucination Rain really.

Me too.

KingSausage said:

MattyJam said:

But would you agree that Arms of Orion is a better song than D&P? [Edited 5/23/16 10:21am]

D&P is way better than Arms of Orion. AoO (which could be an onomatopoeia for painful yelping induced by listening) is such generic end/credits syrupy treacle. And the vocals are atrocious. It's dentist office music. D&P screams 1991, sure, and it's corny as hell. But it has actual depth and emotion. There's SOUL to it. AoO just S to the U to the C to the K to the S.

Thanks for this, really needed the laugh.

KoolEaze said:

thekidsgirl said:

Both songs are gems to me too! Only actual song I pass on that album is Hallucination Rain really.

Me too.

That'd have been better as a b-side only. Cut those segues out, ditch "H.R." and Exodus is even more stellar. Exodus and The Gold Experience are two of the best non-Prince Prince records ever produced. EVAR.

No way. Every Prince song is awesome and even his worst song is better than the best song of any other artist living or dead.

homesquid said:

KingSausage said:

homesquid said:

No way. Every Prince song is awesome and even his worst song is better than the best song of any other artist living or dead.

Well, everything up through Mountains, that is. Everything after Mountains is shit.

Ah yes. I forgot. My bad. Mountains sucked ass too. His only good songs are "Purple Rain", "Let's Go Crazy", "Kiss", "When Doves Cry", "1999", "Raspberry Beret" and "Little Red Corvette. Those were his only TRUE hits.

(at least that's what I am lead to believe by Joe Public)

The entire Rainbow Children album

h4rm0ny said:

The entire Rainbow Children album

See, I wasn't going to go there.

Do you know what I like about this thread? I read through the supposed "worst songs by Prince" and I see so many great songs that I love listening to

GoldStandard said:

I kind of agree about the Arms of Orion, its a very sloppy ballad and a poor imitation of a James Ingram/Al Jarreau/ Lionel Richie/Billy Preston and Syreeta type song (Not that I am dissing these people, merely saying AOO is like a bad song by them).

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Also considering this man just in the previous two years had given us ballads like Adore, When 2 r in love, Annastesia, 4ever in my life, Dorothy Parker and Glam Slam, we expected the standard to remain high into 1989 and Arms of Orion is a kick in the balls, its like going from the Ace of Spades to the 2 of Diamonds!.

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Also guys lets try and be nice to each other and stop insulting each other for choices we don't like, opinion should be neutered not shut down, we are not being watched by Kim Jong Un here! And yes I know I blasted the OP for saying 20Ten was the worst album. But lets show some Love4oneanother here.

Hallucination Rain sounds great very Funkadelic kind of song.

214 said:

Hallucination Rain sounds great very Funkadelic kind of song.

Yeah, they were a trippier version of Parliament's stuff in a lot of ways. "Hallucination Rain" falls right in that category, whereas a lot of Exodus falls more in a Parliament category.

terrig said:

All of Plectrum Electrum except Anotherlove.

My god the lyrics are so bad.

I would have included Anotherlove on my best of 17 -- but he didn't write it. He didn't write the 2nd best song either.

Adorecream said:

MattyJam said:

Adorecream said:

I kind of agree about the Arms of Orion, its a very sloppy ballad and a poor imitation of a James Ingram/Al Jarreau/ Lionel Richie/Billy Preston and Syreeta type song (Not that I am dissing these people, merely saying AOO is like a bad song by them).

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Also considering this man just in the previous two years had given us ballads like Adore, When 2 r in love, Annastesia, 4ever in my life, Dorothy Parker and Glam Slam, we expected the standard to remain high into 1989 and Arms of Orion is a kick in the balls, its like going from the Ace of Spades to the 2 of Diamonds!.

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Also guys lets try and be nice to each other and stop insulting each other for choices we don't like, opinion should be neutered not shut down, we are not being watched by Kim Jong Un here! And yes I know I blasted the OP for saying 20Ten was the worst album. But lets show some Love4oneanother here.

Glam Slam a ballad???

20Ten is god awful.

MattyJam said:

Glam Slam a ballad???

It's a ballad like feel, alove song with some graphic sex lines and zaniness (Soda fizzin on the lawn), but yeah I kind of see, that song is way too upbeat and quick tempo to be a ballad, my bad.

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Still the point was that Arms of Orion was a huge come down from the ballads off Lovesexy and SOTT.

Adorecream said:

I kind of agree about the Arms of Orion, its a very sloppy ballad and a poor imitation of a James Ingram/Al Jarreau/ Lionel Richie/Billy Preston and Syreeta type song (Not that I am dissing these people, merely saying AOO is like a bad song by them).

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Also considering this man just in the previous two years had given us ballads like Adore, When 2 r in love, Annastesia, 4ever in my life, Dorothy Parker and Glam Slam, we expected the standard to remain high into 1989 and Arms of Orion is a kick in the balls, its like going from the Ace of Spades to the 2 of Diamonds!.

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Also guys lets try and be nice to each other and stop insulting each other for choices we don't like, opinion should be neutered not shut down, we are not being watched by Kim Jong Un here! And yes I know I blasted the OP for saying 20Ten was the worst album. But lets show some Love4oneanother here.

Gotta jump in here just to say - I LOVE 'The Arms of Orion' SO much. Especially the instrumental section at the end after the vocals are done. I mean, I get that it's syrupy and not very slickly commercial. But man, I just love the unabashedly romantic lyrics, the melody, and Prince's vocal. (Sheena's vocal is the only part that didn't sit well with me, had to grow on me - sounds like something out of a Disney animated film.)

Had this song been featured in the movie, I think it would've been a much bigger hit. Regardless of that, I can't BELIEVE this song only barely cracked the Top 40. It's SO mainstream.