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Reply #30 posted 05/20/16 12:55pm

lavie

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gigilamorosa said:

lavie said:

If Duane was indeed an adopted son of John's, he is not blood related to Prince as a half-sibling and therefore Duane's offspring are not entitled to a share of his estate. The siblings, whether half or full MUST have BLOOD relation to the decedent (Prince). So bye Victoria and Briana. Money hungry vultures!

Also a point to note is that yes, when a child is legally adopted, the name of the adopted parent(s) is placed on their birth certificates.

I hate all of this. None of these people worked for that money yet feel entitled! They didn't even have a relationship with the man.

This is false. Adopted children are recognized as full legal siblings of non adopted children in the same family under the law.

It actually is not false. The law in Minnesota expicility states BLOOD relative. Not "LEGAL" relative. There is a difference! As I read it, there's no other interpretation of that law.

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Reply #31 posted 05/20/16 1:36pm

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lavie said:



gigilamorosa said:


lavie said:

If Duane was indeed an adopted son of John's, he is not blood related to Prince as a half-sibling and therefore Duane's offspring are not entitled to a share of his estate. The siblings, whether half or full MUST have BLOOD relation to the decedent (Prince). So bye Victoria and Briana. Money hungry vultures!



Also a point to note is that yes, when a child is legally adopted, the name of the adopted parent(s) is placed on their birth certificates.



I hate all of this. None of these people worked for that money yet feel entitled! They didn't even have a relationship with the man.



This is false. Adopted children are recognized as full legal siblings of non adopted children in the same family under the law.


It actually is not false. The law in Minnesota expicility states BLOOD relative. Not "LEGAL" relative. There is a difference! As I read it, there's no other interpretation of that law.



Actually, it is false. The only relations not considered "full blood" relations under the law are step children/siblings and foster children/siblings. Adopted children are ALWAYS considered to be full relatives of their adoptive families and not of their biological families.


[url]https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=524[url]

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Reply #32 posted 05/20/16 4:08pm

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It appears John was married to Sharon, Norrine, Lorna and Duane's mom, but inpregnated Prince's mom Mattie when he was married to his wife Vivian. Prince was born first, but Vivian also became pregnant about three months after Mattie, that is why Prince is about three months older. That may be why his mother's name is listed as Mattie Shaw, not Mattie Nelson. Perhaps when Vivian found out he had a baby with Mattie, she divorced John and he married Mattie, they then had Tyka, but got divorced shortly thereafter. He was much older than her. Prince seems to have his mom's eyes and Tyka has her dad's.

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Reply #33 posted 05/25/16 5:24am

tmo1965

Copied from thread per moderator: http://prince.org/msg/7/426458

Duane's Descendants Object to DNA Testing


According the Star Tribune, Brianna Nelson and Jeannine Halloran, on behalf of her minor daughter have filed objections to being required to take DNA tests to prove their rights to part of Prince's estate.

http://www.startribune.co...380673011/

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Reply #34 posted 05/25/16 7:07am

Eileen

If the law says parentage is shown legally via birth certificates, and theirs are all correct, I'd have to agree with their position. Otherwise every single one of us has to be up for providing DNA proof in such a situation. Every death, any family member getting so much as a passed-down wedding ring or money left in a checking account, where a family relationship is the basis.

I can't even imagine the backlog for blood testing and court dates if the standard were to be changed.

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Reply #35 posted 05/27/16 8:08am

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sharonbell said:

It appears John was married to Sharon, Norrine, Lorna and Duane's mom, but inpregnated Prince's mom Mattie when he was married to his wife Vivian. Prince was born first, but Vivian also became pregnant about three months after Mattie, that is why Prince is about three months older. That may be why his mother's name is listed as Mattie Shaw, not Mattie Nelson. Perhaps when Vivian found out he had a baby with Mattie, she divorced John and he married Mattie, they then had Tyka, but got divorced shortly thereafter. He was much older than her. Prince seems to have his mom's eyes and Tyka has her dad's.


I hope that you didn't know that off the top of your head.

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Reply #36 posted 07/04/16 11:29pm

Eileen

(issue raised again in other thread about Prince's father - http://prince.org/msg/7/428517 - but this seems more appropriate thread for related links)



http://www.legacy.com/obi...0149176492

Nelson, Duane Joseph Born 08/18/58. Passed on 03/04/11. Preceded in death by his parents John L. & Vivian Nelson; son Duane Joseph Nelson Jr.; sister Lorna Nelson. Survived by daughter Brianna Nelson; grandchild Victoria Nelson; brothers John R. and Prince Nelson; sisters Norrine and Sharon Nelson

http://prince.org/msg/7/3...?&pg=1

http://www.tmz.com/2016/0...rtificate/

http://www.startribune.co...117755303/

http://www.thedailyswarm....duane-rip/

http://theboombox.com/pri...ead-at-52/

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Reply #37 posted 07/05/16 1:02am

FlyOnTheWall

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I cant tak about MN law, but UK law seems very similar in regards to the family line and who gets what. In the UK an adopted sibling would be entitled to an equal share of the estate. UK law asks these questions:

Does the deceased have:

1) A living spouse? No (if yes spouse gets it all)

2) Any offspring including adopted offspring, excluding step-offspring? No (if Yes then offsprings get equal share. Decendants of deceased offspring get the deceased's share)

3) Any living parent including adoptive parent, excluding step-parent? No (if yes, parent(s) get it all)

4) Any siblings including adopted, excluding step-siblings? Yes. All siblings get an equal share. Where any siblings are deceased, their descendants get the deceased's share.

If MN law is the same, then Duane's decendants are entitled to his share. If Prince had adopted a son, that son would have gotten everything because he was legally his son, so I dont see why the law would be any different for Duane. He was adopted by Prince's father and so was legally Prince's brother. Tyka may not have realised this and so left him out innocently and didnt mean any malice.

Tyka knew exactly what she was doing.

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Reply #38 posted 07/05/16 7:10am

laytonian

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Yeah, Duane was born like just 9 weeks after Prince.

Makes you thankful for your own messed-up family? smile

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