Duane was born in August 1958, just a few months after Prince was born. Is he a step brother or a half brother? If he is a half brother, then I'm assuming that his father had the child out of wedlock. Anyone know the story?

donnyenglish said:

Duane was born in August 1958, just a few months after Prince was born. Is he a step brother or a half brother? If he is a half brother, then I'm assuming that his father had the child out of wedlock. Anyone know the story?

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He must be half brother or his offspring would not be in the running for some of Prince inheritance.

Damn...daddy got around. Two in the same year

gigilamorosa said:

And we wonder why Prince was so different. Imagine your dad had another son, allegedly, who is your same age and goes to your same school.

donnyenglish said:

Duane was born in August 1958, just a few months after Prince was born. Is he a step brother or a half brother? If he is a half brother, then I'm assuming that his father had the child out of wedlock. Anyone know the story?

Duane is Prince's half brother, with Vivian Nelson. I'm not sure John & Vivian were ever married, though. John had plenty of children, but Tyka is the only other child he had with Mattie Shaw, his wife, other than Prince. They separated sometime after 1960, became estranged, and divorced around 1966. She remarried Prince's infamous stepfather, and stayed married until either died.

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The first of John & Vivian's children was born in 1940 (Sharon). Prince, and Tyka are the last children he sired. (Tyka is 2 years older than Prince.) That means he was sleeping with Vivian and Mattie around the same time.

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The thing is, most reports say Duane was born in 1959, not 1958. CJ reported his death in May 2013, and his age being 52. If he'd had a birthday already, that puts him in 1959. If he was due to be 53 that year, that puts him being born in 1960 (which is the year Tyka was born). It seems more logical that he was born in 1959.

NinaB said:

Iirc John had children by two wives before meeting Mattie. Mattie had a son, Alfred, when she & John met. John & Mattie had P & Tika. After they split Mattie married Haywood & they had Omarr. John then went on to adopt Duane when he was married to Duane's Mom. [Edited 5/19/16 17:17pm]

thanks for the explanation cuz it was definitely needed...so Duane wasnt his blood brother?

nursev said:

NinaB said:

nursev said:

thanks for the explanation cuz it was definitely needed...so Duane wasnt his blood brother?

I'm pretty sure that was the story back in the day. I remember something about P finding it hard at first when his Dad got with the next woman. In fact, now I think about it I'm sure there was something about Duane's mom getting sick & passing away. John adopting him & then P & Duane becoming close.

So if he was adopted do his daughters have a right to anything?

nursev said:

funksterr said:

And we wonder why Prince was so different. Imagine your dad had another son, allegedly, who is your same age and goes to your same school.

Yikes. That must have left a mark.

NinaB said:

nursev said:

So if he was adopted do his daughters have a right to anything?

That's a point. I don't know, need someone who's up on mpls law 4 that one.

true

meagemini2 said:

funksterr said:

And we wonder why Prince was so different. Imagine your dad had another son, allegedly, who is your same age and goes to your same school.

Yikes. That must have left a mark.

and to think Prince came from all that

I don't think a child that is adopted by one parent becomes a "half" sibling, but I'm not a Minnesota probate lawyer.

nursev said:

meagemini2 said:

Yikes. That must have left a mark.

and to think Prince came from all that

No wonder he had relationship problems.

nursev said:

Damn...daddy got around. Two in the same year

got a uncle who's done that too

donnyenglish said:

I don't think a child that is adopted by one parent becomes a "half" sibling, but I'm not a Minnesota probate lawyer.

Duane's daughter and grand-daughter filed a petition with the probate court and offered Duane's birth certificate, which lists John Nelson as his father. My question is, do they change an adoptive kid's birth certificate to add the adoptive parents?

tmo1965 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

meagemini2 said:

I cant tak about MN law, but UK law seems very similar in regards to the family line and who gets what. In the UK an adopted sibling would be entitled to an equal share of the estate. UK law asks these questions:

Does the deceased have:

1) A living spouse? No (if yes spouse gets it all)

2) Any offspring including adopted offspring, excluding step-offspring? No (if Yes then offsprings get equal share. Decendants of deceased offspring get the deceased's share)

3) Any living parent including adoptive parent, excluding step-parent? No (if yes, parent(s) get it all)

4) Any siblings including adopted, excluding step-siblings? Yes. All siblings get an equal share. Where any siblings are deceased, their descendants get the deceased's share.

If MN law is the same, then Duane's decendants are entitled to his share. If Prince had adopted a son, that son would have gotten everything because he was legally his son, so I dont see why the law would be any different for Duane. He was adopted by Prince's father and so was legally Prince's brother. Tyka may not have realised this and so left him out innocently and didnt mean any malice.

artist76 said:

nursev said:

Damn...daddy got around. Two in the same year

'Like father, like son.'

Edit: I mean the getting around - not the children.

[Edited 5/20/16 6:30am]

If Duane was indeed an adopted son of John's, he is not blood related to Prince as a half-sibling and therefore Duane's offspring are not entitled to a share of his estate. The siblings, whether half or full MUST have BLOOD relation to the decedent (Prince). So bye Victoria and Briana. Money hungry vultures!

Also a point to note is that yes, when a child is legally adopted, the name of the adopted parent(s) is placed on their birth certificates.

I hate all of this. None of these people worked for that money yet feel entitled! They didn't even have a relationship with the man.

lavie said:

HuMpThAnG said:

nursev said:

Damn...daddy got around. Two in the same year

got a uncle who's done that too

lavie said:

Money hungry vultures!

I hate all of this. None of these people worked for that money yet feel entitled! They didn't even have a relationship with the man.

The locals involved are so far are doing nothing more than following the law, and everything that is happening right now is solely due to Prince's seeming decision to use MN's intestate inheritance laws for division of his estate. He's the one who decided they were entitled, so far as is currently known.

If a will or trust surfaces and people then behave in an untoward manner in defiance of Prince's decision, there may then be justification for concern. Right now all such comments are simply disrespectful and nasty towards Prince's decision and his family members.

Not to mention, in all the side-eye commentary about his family, nobody seems to posit who else in the world DID "work for that money" and is therefore entitled to it instead.