I took 7 people. haha Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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If you will, so will I | |
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I honestly don't remember it being as bad as you all are saying. Unfortunately I don't have a copy so, I have to wait. | |
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i like all prince's films. to me, they have a bollywood feel. i always wished he'd do a bollywood project of his opwn. write another movie and film it there or something. | |
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OldFriends4Sale said: Jill is just gorgeous. He had the best taste in women of any man I know. Baby, you're a star.
Meet me in another world, space and joy | |
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I am a pretty solid Prince fan and have been for more than 30 years. Enjoyed Purple Rain, still love Under The Cherry Moon, and would happily watch either of them any chance I get. But. I have never been able to sit through an entire showing of Graffiti Bridge. I still hardly know what it's about other than what I read because I just can't make it all the way through. I want to... not even necessarily enjoy it. Just be able to sit through the whole thing with my eyes and ears open. I'd even be ok hating it. I can't even work up a good hate for it. Murica: at least it's not Sudan. | |
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Great take on this. I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore... | |
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as bad as GB is,the early script from 1987 is even worse.It features Madonna and Cat and the whole thing is a mess. | |
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Considering how much we all love Prince, Grafitti Bridge must be really really that bad for so many of us to find this film to be a total unwatchable trainwreck. I saw it in the theater the day it was released and never watched it again and have no plans to change that. I will watch UTCM again because it has a certain charm but not the cinematic monstrosity that is GB. | |
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I don't mind old GB. Prince looks good in it and it contains my most favourite ever song, Joy In Repetition. Can't disagree with any of the criticisms here but when I do watch it now and then, I find it entertaining on a number of levels. I remember on the Nude tour they played the Thieves In the Temple video prior to the show and I loved it. I love UTCM, it has aged better than GB I think, whatever its faults, the cinematography (Michael Ballhaus no less), glamorous locations and sets and the fab 80's costumes still look gorgeous. I love its humour and general silliness. A lot of rock stars want to be actors, with varying results! | |
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^^^This. Although, I do own it on disc. 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment | |
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i would like to see the 2 1/2 hr version and compare. its unfair to be so harsh for such a rush job of an edit | |
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it sucked moose cock! | |
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luvsexy4all said: i would like to see the 2 1/2 hr version and compare. its unfair to be so harsh for such a rush job of an edit I had no idea there was a 2 1/2 hour version. That would totally make sense. I will still watch it just to see him. And hot ass Jill Jones. Robin was also pretty boss. Surprise, surprise.
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Despite having the original The Time line-up, it ain' no Purple Rain, but more watchable that Under The Cherry Moon Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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Militant mentioned the "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" performance that was edited from the movie and I agree....that was a dynamic performance that should have been kept in the movie! | |
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Really? I found GB nearly unwatchable. UTCM I found very funny and cute. Prince seems so carefree and expressive with his body language. The banter between him and Jerome borders on a gay relationship. I can't say anything good about GB except that Ingrid Chavez is a good looking woman with wonderful creamy skin. [Edited 5/19/16 22:12pm] | |
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Militant said: Graffiti Bridge could have been great, but IMO most of the faults come down to bad sequencing and editing.
Have you seen the outtakes? The "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" video which would have started the movie is absolutely brilliant and could have set a different tone to the movie. Bring that back, trim the fat, cut out Tevin whose part wasn't needed, and sequence the story a bit better and you have a way better film. I enjoy the film as it is and I think a lot of the criticism it gets is exaggerated. There's outtakes? I wish u heaven | |
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missfee said:
I enjoy the soundtrack...minus all the Time's songs. I always wondered why "Jerk Out" was never featured in the film as a performance (or was it actually filmed and got cut?). The Time's "Pandemonium" album is one of my favorites. It's odd to me that none of the songs, except for a snippet of Jerk Out in the background, was featured in the movie. Could you imagine them performing "Skillet", "Chocolate" and "Data Bank" in the movie? It would had been so hot. [Edited 5/18/16 6:16am] Because Jerk Out was the best song of the bunch and it wasn't a Prince song-- well, it wasn't a prince performed song. And that would have ruined the dynamic of Prince "beating" the Time. I agree with Militant tho, it's 2 movies: the one Prince wanted to make and the one WB told him to make or else. I wish u heaven | |
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Well Ingrid Chavez was a better actress than Kristin Scott Thomas (who was the most annoying character in UTCM) in the 80s Every time she appered on the sceen I was like Kristin has improved since then thank goodness I would have liked UTCM alot more if she wasn't in it [Edited 5/19/16 22:39pm] [Edited 5/19/16 22:40pm] [Edited 5/19/16 22:40pm] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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Kristin Scott Thomas is a classicly trained acctress, if she annoyed you she did her job, that was her role in UTCM. | |
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Yes she is a classicly trained actress and IMO should have one an Oscar for The English Patient 1996, but lets be honest here, she was beyond annoying to me in UTCM, which goes to prove u can have all the talent in the world, but some roles even the early ones are just......no She should have won a Razzie Award. Even she hated it "Kristin Scott Thomas has since been disdainful of the film. In an interview in 2005, she said that "When I left drama school...I was more afraid of not working at all than of the actual material I was being offered. And if you look at my very first film, you'll understand exactly what I mean." I think she is a great actress, but miscast in UTCH. [Edited 5/19/16 22:57pm] [Edited 5/19/16 23:00pm] [Edited 5/19/16 23:23pm] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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RiotPaisley said: CAL3 said:
Thank you so much for including part of my interview with Jimmy Jam in this discussion. I've been a longtime lurker here, but more so in recent weeks in search of solace. That was a great discussion I had with Jimmy Jam and he was extremely nice - especially considering I had laryngitis at the time and could barely croak out a few words at a time. I also revisited my Graffiti Bridge DVD, a few days after seeing Purple Rain in theaters during the reissue. I found it difficult to access in conventional terms at this point. I remember getting the album in August '90 and finding it so tantalizing with all the guest appearances - I think I dreamed up a more fantastical movie in my mind in the two-plus months waiting for the actual film to come out. For me, the movie is now kind of priceless. It's not any "better" in terms of narrative, but I'm just so grateful to have it. Yes, I'm romantizing it in light of Prince's passing but I think that's okay as long as a little perspective is maintained. As others have been saying, it works fairly well as a string of music videos all glued together with a vague plot thread. A real screenwriter might've worked wonders with the basic ideas - and made characters like the ones played by Mavis and Tevin more integral. "Melody Cool" is still a knockout sequence. The lapse into "musical" territory in certain spots (like "Love Machine") is jarring, but in a way enhances the slightly surreal atmosphere. I always thought of "Graffiti Bridge" as something along the lines of McCartney's "Give My Regards to Broad Street" - studio-backed vanity projects created by artists who demanded a lot of creative control. McCartney tried his hands at screenwriting with "Broad Street" too, with similarly anemic results. His film turned into a series of well-shot music videos too. I honestly think Prince exhibited a more creative vision in "Bridge" (he had the benefit of Morris and Jerome and their long-established comedic chemistry). McCartney managaed to waste a supporting cast that had "real" actors, like Tracy Ullman, Bryan Brown, and Sir Ralph Richardson. Anyway, I liked to watch "Graffiti Bridge" every few years and I'm glad it's around now more than ever. Even though "Under the Cherry Moon" is Prince's true cinematic best - so misunderstood and so, so good. Though I haven't been able to bring myself to revisit that one just yet. [Edited 5/18/16 7:07am] You hit the nail on the head- that's exactly what I was trying to say. I'm also in the same UTCM boat. I adore that movie so much, I do not understand why it got so much flack. It works so well as film noir and truly a masterpiece. I cannot watch it right now though as I will sob the whole way through. Google "film noir" and then edit this reply I wish u heaven | |
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Spanky said: Militant said: Graffiti Bridge could have been great, but IMO most of the faults come down to bad sequencing and editing.
Have you seen the outtakes? The "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" video which would have started the movie is absolutely brilliant and could have set a different tone to the movie. Bring that back, trim the fat, cut out Tevin whose part wasn't needed, and sequence the story a bit better and you have a way better film. I enjoy the film as it is and I think a lot of the criticism it gets is exaggerated. There's outtakes? Yes there are scenes and musical performances that were edited out.The "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" performance is great! Also,there is a performance scene of "The Latest Fashion" that was edited out of the film.Prince's dancing is really superb in this scene! | |
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lol, noticed that too. A better result than Jellybean taking him on (and being so mean) in the deleted scenes in the Purple Rain trailer. MM is in his weight class at least.
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It wasn't just a bad movie, it was terrible and very depressing to watch.
I was used to explaining Prince was excentric but on that occasion, I could no longer defend him from accusations of overindulgence. I couldn't even say "yes, it's a very silly movie, but the performance scenes are great" -- they were not. It didn't help that it all ended with one of his worst songs.
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Oh yes. I love Prince but that movie. No no no lol. Aura was quite easily a doozy.. lol ... I couldn't defend this movie at all. | |
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I would've talked to him even longer if I could've - Jimmy Jam was extremely generous with his time, especially since his main purpose was promoting the then-new 'Condensate' album. Plus he was very patient, since I had almost completely lost my voice - I still have the recorded audio and it's painful to listen to myself croaking out questions... But back to defending 'Graffiti Bridge,' I just feel like after accepting the general sense of incompetency that permeates the filmmaking - I can sit back and enjoy the musical sequences, laugh at the humor, and just generally respect the fact that Prince tried something (even if he bit off more than he could chew, wearing too many hats). I'm kind of surprised that many commenters on this thread seem to feel like they'd be happier if the film didn't exist. Subpar as it is, I'm still tickled by the fact that we have a feature film with Prince, the original Time lineup, Mavis Staples, and George Clinton all featured (George could've at least had a line of dialogue though!). I know I'll continue to pop in the DVD every once in a while, no doubt. [Edited 5/20/16 7:24am] | |
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I really like graffiti bridge ,I think because I knew it wasn't purple rain , and I get where prince was going it just didn't translate like it should have, I was glad to see Jill jones in it because I felt so bad for her in purple rain, the music was great, the set is where it hurt the most but, I got over that, plus prince with long hair lol, under the cherry moon was more put together that's for sure | |
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