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Reply #60 posted 05/18/16 9:47am

steakfinger

Militant said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

"a different kind of movie. It's not violent. Nobody gets laid." -Prince

I love that Monte is the one that gets to come at Prince, haha. That's too funny.

I'm sure it was because he was the shortest one.

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Reply #61 posted 05/18/16 9:56am

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I think it would have been great if it went straight to home video, and was sold as a (I hate even use this term) "visual album." Had he cut out most of that shitty dialogue, plot and acting, made several vignettes like in SOTT, it would have worked, or at least not been a cheesy pile of crap that he made me buy on VHS and DVD. smile

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Reply #62 posted 05/18/16 9:57am

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My wife and I watched it last weekend. She was reading a book almost the whole time, and only paying attention in certain parts. She did say that Prince's look throughout was one of her favorites. She especially dug the Elephants & Flowers performance and look (kinda Adam Ant).

It was her first time seeing it, and I'd bet money it will be her last. But she enjoyed it.

I would've loved a version of this movie without The Time, and with no ties to Purple Rain at all. It's in a different "spiritual" world from Purple Rain, and should've committed to that.

I can't imagine it's any worse than Elvis' movies, or The Beatles movies, or even a few of Janet Jackson's movies (Poetic Justice?)

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Reply #63 posted 05/18/16 9:58am

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Identity said:

One day it will be heralded as a masterpiece, roughly 500 years from now.


Sounds like someone put some vodka in their purple kool-aid....
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Reply #64 posted 05/18/16 9:58am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

"a different kind of movie. It's not violent. Nobody gets laid." -Prince

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That includes all of the guys that took a date to see the movie. You can't even get lucky if you "Netflix and chill" using GB.

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Reply #65 posted 05/18/16 10:00am

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Se7en said:

It was her first time seeing it, and I'd bet money it will be her last. But she enjoyed it.

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Sounds like she enjoyed your company, more than enjoying the movie.

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Reply #66 posted 05/18/16 10:01am

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Sorry guys. I know since Prince has passed, we don't want to be harsh on particular things... But you have to be delusional to think that this was a “masterpiece” or in any way a good film.
Or you just have bad taste... Oh well, different strokes for different folks, I guess
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Reply #67 posted 05/18/16 10:03am

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eyewishuheaven said:

suomynona said:

The worst movie of all-time.

I don't know if I'd go thaaaaaat far. Given the option of watching Graffiti Bridge 100 more times or watching The Love Guru one more time, I'd definitely choose option 1. lol

Hahahah! I second that!

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Reply #68 posted 05/18/16 10:04am

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suomynona said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

"a different kind of movie. It's not violent. Nobody gets laid." -Prince

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That includes all of the guys that took a date to see the movie. You can't even get lucky if you "Netflix and chill" using GB.

LOL that made me spill some of my coffee

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Reply #69 posted 05/18/16 10:07am

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eyewishuheaven said:

suomynona said:

The worst movie of all-time.

I don't know if I'd go thaaaaaat far. Given the option of watching Graffiti Bridge 100 more times or watching The Love Guru one more time, I'd definitely choose option 1. lol

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9500 minutes or 127 minutes of feeling like someone is running their fingernails on a chalkboard? I'll take the option that I'm being tortured for 9373 less minutes.

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Reply #70 posted 05/18/16 10:09am

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Dang! Some people are so harsh. Graffiti Bridge had me wondering about a few things but the worst movie ever, Napoleon how can anyone even know that?
Feelings... that sums it up.
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Reply #71 posted 05/18/16 10:09am

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KaresB said:

Yes. As a film, it's very bad.

If you watch it as a music video though, it's enjoyable, due to the great music.


What's actually really funny is I watched it the other day and told my husband it reminded me more of a really long music video not a live so I could appreciate it that way. Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought of this
How beautiful do the words have 2 be
Before they conquer every heart?
How will U know if I'm even in the right key
If U make me stop before I start?
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Reply #72 posted 05/18/16 10:16am

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It just didn't have any kind of story and plot that actually worked on viewers. If only the script had gone through the same type of process and edgy retooling as Purple Rain to give it story beats and characters that seemed alive, with actions that made cinematic sense.

But really the biggest flaw was thart the movie was conceived as an old style Hollywood musical, and was then cut up and forced to be reshaped to more like a drama like Purple Rain. that cut out the true vibe of the film. You see what it was supposed to be in the outtakes. It wa smeant to be more like "Singing in the Rain" with fantasy moments of music and song with dance routines.

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Reply #73 posted 05/18/16 10:19am

PurpleSkipper5
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KaresB said:

Yes. As a film, it's very bad.

If you watch it as a music video though, it's enjoyable, due to the great music.


Could say the same for Purple Rain
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Reply #74 posted 05/18/16 10:21am

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Kim Basinger dodged a bullet with that one.

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Reply #75 posted 05/18/16 10:23am

Identity

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Identity said:

One day it will be heralded as a masterpiece, roughly 500 years from now.

Sounds like someone put some vodka in their purple kool-aid....


My sarcasm went straight over your head, didn't it? That's OK. wink

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Reply #76 posted 05/18/16 10:23am

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suomynona said:

Se7en said:

It was her first time seeing it, and I'd bet money it will be her last. But she enjoyed it.

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Sounds like she enjoyed your company, more than enjoying the movie.



Probably! She enjoyed UTCM a whole lot more last week. I would peek over and see her feet swaying to the music.

I will say this though: I think my wife is officially "Prince'd out" for the foreseeable future. I think any music that I listen to or videos I watch will be on my own time, like on my way to work or at lunch.

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Reply #77 posted 05/18/16 10:27am

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It is still cool to dissect the movie, the behind the scenes stuff, the music and such

Morris never got this far with Apollonia

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Reply #78 posted 05/18/16 10:30am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

It is still cool to dissect the movie, the behind the scenes stuff, the music and such

Morris never got this far with Apollonia

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I'm confused. Are these scenes from an episode of Law & Order SVU?

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Reply #79 posted 05/18/16 11:00am

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PurpleSkipper58 said:

Sorry guys. I know since Prince has passed, we don't want to be harsh on particular things... But you have to be delusional to think that this was a “masterpiece” or in any way a good film. Or you just have bad taste... Oh well, different strokes for different folks, I guess

I don't think they were talking about GB but about UTCM.

How beautiful do the words have 2 be
Before they conquer every heart?
How will U know if I'm even in the right key
If U make me stop before I start?
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Reply #80 posted 05/18/16 11:00am

Angelsoncrack

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It was kinda like this is an imaginary world that Prince has created. A neighborhood with 7 music clubs to choose from... People went to dance, or hook up, get their church on, or do the funk- depending on your mood you could hop across the street.

This is half the reason I love this movie so much. It's very dream-eqsue. I always secretly wished I could go to Seven Corners.

I showed my mum the movie the other week though, I expected her to not like it but she actually enjoyed it.

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Reply #81 posted 05/18/16 11:05am

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emesem said:


Plot and acting wise it made Under the Cherry Moon look like Citizen Kane.




Citizen Cannes! biggrin. (And yes, I do know it was Nice)

UTCM was cheesy but good cheese. GB is bad cheese. Bad, bad cheese. Some great songs inside covered in a thick layer of inedible fungus.
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Reply #82 posted 05/18/16 11:08am

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ivey0126 said:

PurpleSkipper58 said:

Sorry guys. I know since Prince has passed, we don't want to be harsh on particular things... But you have to be delusional to think that this was a “masterpiece” or in any way a good film. Or you just have bad taste... Oh well, different strokes for different folks, I guess

I don't think they were talking about GB but about UTCM.


UTCM is no masterpiece either. It has music that is a million times better than what's in GB -- but it doesn't feel forced. It just looks like everyone is having fun making UTCM. The music and the style of the movie, along with a handful of funny moments is what saves UTCM.

And unlike PR/SOTT where it felt those songs were performed live and not lipsynched -- you don't get that feeling in either GB or UTCM. As a fan, there is NOTHING worse as a Prince fan than going to see a Prince performance and watching him lipsync through studio songs.

I'll put it this way. Prince fans have no problem introducing SOTT film or Purple Rain to someone their interested in that isn't a Prince fanatic. But they will wait until they've been together with that person for about a year before they introduce them to UTCM. Chances are, they'll never show anyone Graffiti Bridge. A relationship doesn't recover from that.

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Reply #83 posted 05/18/16 11:10am

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Angelsoncrack said:

I showed my mum the movie the other week though, I expected her to not like it but she actually enjoyed it.


This tells us more about how much your Mom loves you -- and being able to spend time with you -- than it does about Graffiti Bridge.

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Reply #84 posted 05/18/16 11:14am

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Militant said:


Hell, Prince didn't even have a keyboard player in the movie, they used Philip C who was the hairdresser!!! If the movie had *always* been a battle of the bands between The Kid's band and The Time, a la Purple Rain, then it seems pretty obvious that Prince would have given this band a name, explored their personalities (TC Ellis being desperate to rap doesn't count), given them all at least one line or some backstory, etc, etc.

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I never knew who Philip was, but now I do. The thing is, Dr. Fink always said Prince told him to just rehearse the band, and that there wasn't really room for him in the movie. Hell, there was room for Rosie, and the hairdresser, why not put Fink in there instead? He had one real line in Purple Rain, so I'm sure he could have laid out the "BANG" line that Philip C. got.

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I'm not sure editing is the main culprit. A lot of stuff was repeated, over and over, which reeks of lack of creativity when it comes to writing lines for actors to tell a story. "Stella" was used a lot, and it's a silly phrase. "Damn, this is embarrassing" was used twice in a row by Miko Weaver, which was just as bad as the misaligned hand clap (also by Weaver) in SOTT's "I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man" opening. Prince emoting for half of the movie didn't help matters.

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The whole thing looked like a cartoon, or the back alley where MC Skat Cat from Paula Abdul's "Opposites Attract" video would hang out, or where Mick Jagger really did the "Harlem Shuffle". I kept waiting for Jaggar and Bowie to pop out of one of those fake buildings and sing "Dancing In The Streets. Then it's so glaringly juxtaposted with the outdoor shots driving around Minneapolis - it's almost like two different movies.

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Prince just tried to rewrite Purple Rain, and failed miserably at it. To his credit, he did say, "I learned I can't direct movies", later on.

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And we still dont know what's just around the corner.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #85 posted 05/18/16 11:16am

CAL3

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A genuine contender for the worse film ever made. Anybody who thinks any different has never seen a good movie

With all due respect, I would put forth that anyone who claims GB is "the worst film ever made" has never seen a truly bad movie.

(By the way - I cited a similar, yet worse, example earlier: McCartney's "Broad Street")

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Reply #86 posted 05/18/16 11:17am

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OldFriends4Sale said:


Madonna was supposed to be in it, when the Lovesexy band was still on board:Sheila E Cat etc

Cat took off Boni left for Australia and Sheila E and Prince part ways because of her 4th album and then her back issues/lung collapsed

Kim Bassinger was next to be in it? I believe

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Boni & Prince fought a lot, especially by the time the Lovesexy Tour was going on. Many reports noted where they'd walk to the stage in the dark for the beginning of the show, or out after the end, or whatever, and just be yelling at each other. Boni would give it right back to Prince, which I actually enjoyed about her.

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In the Lovesexy tour videos that are out there (Dortmund, Toronto), when she and Cat are interacting with Prince, and Boni shoots Prince a snarl, and says "he's a liar...and a cheat", just how much of her face was truly rooted in "fuck you, ya MFer!" at that point. haha

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #87 posted 05/18/16 11:18am

RiotPaisley

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RiotPaisley said:


It was kinda like this is an imaginary world that Prince has created. A neighborhood with 7 music clubs to choose from... People went to dance, or hook up, get their church on, or do the funk- depending on your mood you could hop across the street.

This is half the reason I love this movie so much. It's very dream-eqsue. I always secretly wished I could go to Seven Corners.


I showed my mum the movie the other week though, I expected her to not like it but she actually enjoyed it.




I was really heavy into Sim City at the time and every city I made had a "7 corners" area in the commercial district, and way out in the middle of nowhere would be Paisley Park (the mayors mansion) and houses around it for all his band members.

NERD!!
Surprise, surprise.
Another treat. Another trick.
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Reply #88 posted 05/18/16 11:24am

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CAL3 said:

antonb said:

A genuine contender for the worse film ever made. Anybody who thinks any different has never seen a good movie

With all due respect, I would put forth that anyone who claims GB is "the worst film ever made" has never seen a truly bad movie.

(By the way - I cited a similar, yet worse, example earlier: McCartney's "Broad Street")



I have over 4,000 movies in my collection. A couple of years ago, I saw nearly 400 movies in a calendar year. I've seen a LOT of movies, and every time I see a terrible film, I go -- "Nope -- not as bad as Graffiti Bridge."


You have to separate your Prince fandom from the film to be objective (and honest) about how terrible it is.

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Reply #89 posted 05/18/16 11:26am

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TrivialPursuit said:

I kept waiting for Jaggar and Bowie to pop out of one of those fake buildings and sing "Dancing In The Streets.


falloff

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