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Reply #30 posted 05/18/16 10:17am

suomynona

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gigilamorosa said:

suomynona said:

yeahthat

Never understood this about his fanbase. Also, it's just fucking disrespectful at this point. Imagine if your Mom died and someone was at the wake talking about her sex life. Everyone else there would knock that person the f o.

Unless your mom had spoken publicly about being celibate after a much celebrated career as a paragon of sexuality...

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They would still get knocked out.

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Reply #31 posted 05/18/16 10:17am

wayhome

"We are not stupid we all know P was in an out patient program." No we do not know that!

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Reply #32 posted 05/18/16 10:19am

wayhome

suomynona said:

gigilamorosa said:

suomynona said: Unless your mom had spoken publicly about being celibate after a much celebrated career as a paragon of sexuality...

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They would still get knocked out.

That just made me laugh.

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Reply #33 posted 05/18/16 10:19am

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gigilamorosa said:

suomynona said:

yeahthat

Never understood this about his fanbase. Also, it's just fucking disrespectful at this point. Imagine if your Mom died and someone was at the wake talking about her sex life. Everyone else there would knock that person the f o.

Unless your mom had spoken publicly about being celibate after a much celebrated career as a paragon of sexuality...

Quite.

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Prince made this a topic in the biggest way possible.

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He also turned the spotlight on his health. He preached the benefits of his system in work we all paid for. Just 12 years ago, he opened an album preaching advice to all listeners on how not to screw up their immune system. This advice was complete crap, scientific bunk which would have been offensively dangerous if any of us truly believed in his message.

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Reply #34 posted 05/18/16 10:23am

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TheEnglishGent said:



McD said:


Aerogram said:

Have you noticed you don't know anything and yet here you are feeling the need to speculate on if he could still "get it up"?



Forget Gene Simmons, some Prince fans beat him by a mile or two in the crassness of their comments.







Opioids leading to ompotence is a known fact.


Is that when you can't get hard for an Oompa loompa?


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"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #35 posted 05/18/16 10:27am

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gigilamorosa said:

suomynona said:



Chas said:


Regardless of how he died, and the circumstances surrounding it, his sex life ain't none of our business. This is the kinda stuff that pushed Prince to build walls. Who he fuckin? Who he ain't fuckin? What happened to no man should put asunder, the joy that another man found?



yeahthat


Never understood this about his fanbase. Also, it's just fucking disrespectful at this point. Imagine if your Mom died and someone was at the wake talking about her sex life. Everyone else there would knock that person the f o.



Unless your mom had spoken publicly about being celibate after a much celebrated career as a paragon of sexuality...

-- He mentioned this an interview in the Rolling Stone two years ago and joked that he was trying. Meaning he probaly fell off the wagon a few times😀 Does not mean he was important due to drugs after we are supposed to belived he was a raging pill for 10 years but managed to 80 to 100 hours a week without missing a step. I think his problems may escalated in recently and this whole important kick is just a way some people want to cut off his dick.
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Reply #36 posted 05/18/16 10:31am

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wayhome said:

"We are not stupid we all know P was in an out patient program." No we do not know that!


--/ Actually we do know this was confirmed before the last search warrant was sealed. Along with P getting legimate Rx from is local doctor. You will not see this as a headline because this does not get clicks. My foundest wish is for some hacker to bring down TMZ and replace the site with Prince music.
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Reply #37 posted 05/18/16 11:01am

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laurarichardson said:

wayhome said:

"We are not stupid we all know P was in an out patient program." No we do not know that!

--/ Actually we do know this was confirmed before the last search warrant was sealed. Along with P getting legimate Rx from is local doctor. You will not see this as a headline because this does not get clicks. My foundest wish is for some hacker to bring down TMZ and replace the site with Prince music.

...but everything you say appears to be a source-free fan version of their exclusives!

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I keep repeating it, but say what you like about TMZ... 1. it's only because of them we even have the basics, 2. without them we would have nothing but the Enquirer and their AIDS narrative, and 3. had Prince been less stubborn, or maybe just survived a few more days, TMZ outing him when they did might have saved his life.

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Reply #38 posted 05/18/16 11:06am

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McD said:

laurarichardson said:

wayhome said: --/ Actually we do know this was confirmed before the last search warrant was sealed. Along with P getting legimate Rx from is local doctor. You will not see this as a headline because this does not get clicks. My foundest wish is for some hacker to bring down TMZ and replace the site with Prince music.

...but everything you say appears to be a source-free fan version of their exclusives!

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I keep repeating it, but say what you like about TMZ... 1. it's only because of them we even have the basics, 2. without them we would have nothing but the Enquirer and their AIDS narrative, and 3. had Prince been less stubborn, or maybe just survived a few more days, TMZ outing him when they did might have saved his life.

McD, are you the guy who thought June was about drugs?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #39 posted 05/18/16 11:20am

destinyc1

Not that many people are laughing at tmz much anymore.You may hate them and their line of work but,they were dead on with this one.So with the aids talk and all they haven't said it even though many have.

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Reply #40 posted 05/18/16 11:26am

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suomynona said:

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Reply #41 posted 05/18/16 11:27am

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McD said:



laurarichardson said:


wayhome said:

"We are not stupid we all know P was in an out patient program." No we do not know that!



--/ Actually we do know this was confirmed before the last search warrant was sealed. Along with P getting legimate Rx from is local doctor. You will not see this as a headline because this does not get clicks. My foundest wish is for some hacker to bring down TMZ and replace the site with Prince music.


...but everything you say appears to be a source-free fan version of their exclusives!


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I keep repeating it, but say what you like about TMZ... 1. it's only because of them we even have the basics, 2. without them we would have nothing but the Enquirer and their AIDS narrative, and 3. had Prince been less stubborn, or maybe just survived a few more days, TMZ outing him when they did might have saved his life.


/- Actually, the one good thing TMZ did do was put on their site was that the local doctor did not prescribe any pain meds to Prince and that Prince did have two Rx (not for pain) that were filled at the Walgreens right after he left the doctors office. The DEA is now trying to find out where he did get the Percocet that caused his problems on plane from and it was also confirmed that the local doctor was helping him withdraw. If you do some Goggle you can find this information. I think P's problem was pride he was trying to beat it as an outpatient and tour at the same time . He thought was indestruable and it was that cockiness that made him successful also made him lose his life.
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Reply #42 posted 05/18/16 11:30am

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McD said:

TMZ outing him when they did might have saved his life.


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Reply #43 posted 05/18/16 11:30am

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destinyc1 said:

Not that many people are laughing at tmz much anymore.You may hate them and their line of work but,they were dead on with this one.So with the aids talk and all they haven't said it even though many have.


-- They people for information which does not mean it is true. The are gossiping scumbags who have put out personal medical information compare their actions to all the good stuff that Prince has done.
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Reply #44 posted 05/18/16 11:32am

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suomynona said:



McD said:




TMZ outing him when they did might have saved his life.






Or made him fearful of the bad publicity.
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Reply #45 posted 05/18/16 12:26pm

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SexFiendNikki said:



cardinal said:


prince clearly changed after becoming jw....he changed lyrics to his songs, stopped swearing, had a cuss jar at his home, and talked about the bible to basically anyone who would listen. he also attended worship at the local kingdom hall. that is onehelluva cover story to cover for any medical/sexual issues. and there would be no reason to create such a narrative. no one would know if he was or was not being intimate with anyone, and most people would assume he was carryng on as usual. i think he genuinely was trying to live his faith as fully as he could and wanted people to know. and i believe it was especially important to him because of his reputation from the past. at the bet award he said he was wild in his younger days but thst people did not have to make the mistakes he did. it's clear to me this was genuine.





Well said!!!!



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"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #46 posted 05/18/16 12:35pm

destinyc1

There are two ways to look at this.These rags will call or contact said celeb.HEY OUR PEOPLE HAVE PROOF YOU HAVE CANCER ANY TRUTH? The PR person will say NO COMMENT.ragmag will say we're running with the story.Some celebs then will spin it or out themselves their way.YES THEY'RE POND SCUM BUT,99% of the time its coming from people close to the celeb.If people close to said celebs try and help the person OUT THE DOOR THEY GO.celebs die due to shame and pain.ENABLERS=DEATH.This isn't a new story.ADDICTIONS dont get better on their own.You have to want help and you have to seek help.If prince reads these forums as was said.He saw people on here talking about OMG!!! I hope he is ok.Not just about the flu some felt it was more to it.Love layne staleys mom she said 'Layne could of gotten HIMSELF HELP.I think some knew what was coming down the pike and didn't know what to do and are now caught up in the crossfire.And will forever be linked to they could of done more.

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Reply #47 posted 05/18/16 12:44pm

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destinyc1 said:

There are two ways to look at this.These rags will call or contact said celeb.HEY OUR PEOPLE HAVE PROOF YOU HAVE CANCER ANY TRUTH? The PR person will say NO COMMENT.ragmag will say we're running with the story.Some celebs then will spin it or out themselves their way.YES THEY'RE POND SCUM BUT,99% of the time its coming from people close to the celeb.If people close to said celebs try and help the person OUT THE DOOR THEY GO.celebs die due to shame and pain.ENABLERS=DEATH.This isn't a new story.ADDICTIONS dont get better on their own.You have to want help and you have to seek help.If prince reads these forums as was said.He saw people on here talking about OMG!!! I hope he is ok.Not just about the flu some felt it was more to it.Love layne staleys mom she said 'Layne could of gotten HIMSELF HELP.I think some knew what was coming down the pike and didn't know what to do and are now caught up in the crossfire.And will forever be linked to they could of done more.


// He was in a outpatient program so he was trying to get help. He was going about it in the wrong manner.
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Reply #48 posted 05/18/16 12:48pm

destinyc1

Exactly..... But,keep in mind if thats true he needed 90 days or more at promises or a betty ford type place.Trust me by time these celebs bite a little its totally out of control.

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Reply #49 posted 05/18/16 1:33pm

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wayhome said:

"We are not stupid we all know P was in an out patient program." No we do not know that!


--// Goggle is your friend.
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Reply #50 posted 05/18/16 1:53pm

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Are you all buying 10yrs and no coochie???

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Reply #51 posted 05/18/16 2:07pm

SoulAlive

destinyc1 said:

Not that many people are laughing at tmz much anymore.You may hate them and their line of work but,they were dead on with this one.So with the aids talk and all they haven't said it even though many have.

^^THIS.

I know some of us don't wanna admit it,but TMZ has been the most consistently reliable source.They dig deep and always seem to get to the truth.

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Reply #52 posted 05/18/16 2:09pm

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I feel sad for Prince that the two things that are most personal to a person (not just Prince, anyone), are being freely discussed by people who think they knew him, people who don't know anything about his personal life, and think they know all the facts.

To use the analogy someone else used in this thread. Imagine it was your mother who had a problem with drugs. Would you be OK with people talking about it? What about her sex life? What if she had just died?

Yes, Prince's situation is different. He's a celebrity with a rabid following that follows his every move. Regardless, he's a human being, and his memory deserves to be respected. If nothing else, because of the joy he brought us.

When we learn how he died, that should be the end of it. No amount of speculation about how much drugs or sex he had will change the fact that he's gone.

This is just my opinion, I'm sure very few people feel the same.

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Reply #53 posted 05/18/16 2:10pm

nursev

So in three weeks Prince has went from being the musician we all love to a celibate percocet addict with erectle dysfunction confused only on the org.

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Reply #54 posted 05/18/16 2:26pm

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Astasheiks said:

Are you all buying 10yrs and no coochie???

Hell no...

Let us all remember If I Was Your Girlfriend - "We dont have to make love to have an orgasm..."

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Reply #55 posted 05/18/16 2:31pm

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McD said:

Has anyone noted that the dates for Prince's celibacy claims match up to when his hip pain supposedly came to a head in 2009? Supposedly at his time of death he had been celibate for eight years.


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Prince strikes me as a man who would fashion a large narrative to fit his circumstances. In other words, if he suddenly couldn't 'get it up', it wouldn't be a medical issue or age, it would be a call from God himself that he should keep it in his pants. I think this is just how he rolled. I would also suspect he wouldn't keep trying and failing... if he had issues, he would just stop doing it.


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If Prince was taking heavy duty painkillers from 2009 or just before, suddenly we have a man now in his 50's, who doesn't eat the type of foods that keep your pecker up, now (probably) taking the kind of meds that can lead to erectile problems. I know a lot of us think of Prince as the ultimate male who would still be able to go all night at 80, but a) he probably wasn't in great health and b) appears to have given up on his sex life just as pain killers may have become a huge part of his life.


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Hip pain alone, of course, could lead to a period of abstinence. But from live performances during this period, the moves were still there when he needed them.


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Also, if the celibacy stories are NOT true, but the painkiller stories almost certainly are, this could also open up the possibility that the killer mix was some form of viagra. But I'm not buying that either. For one thing, the two probable overdoses happened when a) he was on a plane and b) home alone.


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So basically, I'm just putting it out there that the forming narrative of Prince becoming hooked on painkillers from around 2009 has another bit of circumstantial evidence to add to it.



I don't believe the Celibacy thing...P has always played with the media. And where did you get the 2009 date?
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Reply #56 posted 05/18/16 2:34pm

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So in three weeks Prince has went from being the musician we all love to a celibate percocet addict with erectle dysfunction confused only on the org.



I don't see these as mutually exclusive issues. In fact, the more we see our idols as fully human, with faults, diseases, weaknesses, the more respect we show. Because we are recognizing not just the genius, but we are seeing the soul. Everyone deserves to be not just seen but also loved as that full person.

If people can only love or admire a perfect Prince, that's not truth.
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Reply #57 posted 05/18/16 2:38pm

nursev

gigilamorosa said:

nursev said:

So in three weeks Prince has went from being the musician we all love to a celibate percocet addict with erectle dysfunction confused only on the org.

I don't see these as mutually exclusive issues. In fact, the more we see our idols as fully human, with faults, diseases, weaknesses, the more respect we show. Because we are recognizing not just the genius, but we are seeing the soul. Everyone deserves to be not just seen but also loved as that full person. If people can only love or admire a perfect Prince, that's not truth.

Nobody said he was perfect, but really the man has been dead for three weeks is it really appropriate to be on here discussing his possible erectile dysfunction? confused Prince was a human being with faults, a family and the man had feelings. Is it really cool to do this? Would you appreciate some one posting this shit about you?

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Reply #58 posted 05/18/16 2:38pm

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Chas said:

I feel sad for Prince that the two things that are most personal to a person (not just Prince, anyone), are being freely discussed by people who think they knew him, people who don't know anything about his personal life, and think they know all the facts.

To use the analogy someone else used in this thread. Imagine it was your mother who had a problem with drugs. Would you be OK with people talking about it? What about her sex life? What if she had just died?

Yes, Prince's situation is different. He's a celebrity with a rabid following that follows his every move. Regardless, he's a human being, and his memory deserves to be respected. If nothing else, because of the joy he brought us.

When we learn how he died, that should be the end of it. No amount of speculation about how much drugs or sex he had will change the fact that he's gone.

This is just my opinion, I'm sure very few people feel the same.

I agree.... all of it. Speculation and listening to the press is senseless : no one knows

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Reply #59 posted 05/18/16 2:39pm

tmo1965

Prince and celibacy. 2 words that I never thought would be used in the same sentence. biggrin

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