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BULLSHIT.
B Vitamins are literally safer than the air we breath. I am a qualified nutritionist and I have also had nerve damage after surgery. I healed it without ANY drugs, just supplements including MEGA DOSES of B Vitamins.
Long term B12 deficiency can cause nerve damage. Long term deficiency of B5 AKA Pantothenic acid can shrink your adrenal glands. | |
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A man I know says the sun is hot. | |
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Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Thank you for saying this!!!
And I see all of your creations as one perfect complex
No one less beautiful Or more special than the next | |
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B12 is water soluble; basically any extra you take in you're just going to pee out. The biggest issue if you take waaaayyy too much is that you could damage your kidneys. But AFAIK that's not very common at all because you'd have to be taking in ridiculous amounts over a consistent period of time. Plus that can happen with any other water soluble vitamin, or hell, even green tea. Or water, for that matter. r there painkillers that r NOT opiod??? anyone know? | |
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WTF? That is a bizarre assertion if I've ever heard one. Addiction CAN occur with anybody, regardless of the condition, but what you've just said is that anybody with chronic pain who takes painkillers automatically has an addiction. I don't know if the wording is unclear and I'm misunderstanding, but if not, that is a pretty nasty thing to say as tons of people have chronic pain and use painkillers. I'm not saying Prince did or did not have an addiction, but saying that the general tilt of your assertion is insanely wrong. (Not to mention, "painkiller" does not always refer to opioids. Technically you're saying anyone who's taken ibuprofen for pain is addicted to it.) I do think that our country's reliance on opioids for pain to the exclusion of anything else is a horrendous mistake and our money and time would have been better spent on researching causes and long-term solutions to chronic pain. However, that doesn't change the fact that no, not everybody who takes opioids (which I assume is what you meant) is addicted to them. And I see all of your creations as one perfect complex
No one less beautiful Or more special than the next | |
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I'm just going to say that, as with all things on the Internet, I hope nobody reading any of the threads on this website believes a bit of the supposed medical "facts" that are being peddled. Most of it is completely off-kilter pseudoscience. If you see anything you're curious about, PLEASE go research it on the Mayo Clinic website or the NIH website. Both are fantastic resources. And I see all of your creations as one perfect complex
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Arbwyth said: I'm just going to say that, as with all things on the Internet, I hope nobody reading any of the threads on this website believes a bit of the supposed medical "facts" that are being peddled. Most of it is completely off-kilter pseudoscience. If you see anything you're curious about, PLEASE go research it on the Mayo Clinic website or the NIH website. Both are fantastic resources. I use the Mayo, but what is the NIH? "We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15 | |
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I inject into fatty tissue so it is absorbed slowly, none is peed out.
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NIH- National Institute of Health How beautiful do the words have 2 be
Before they conquer every heart? How will U know if I'm even in the right key If U make me stop before I start? | |
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There is no definite answer on addiction. There is no concrete science.
Even the so called experts are often clueless. | |
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ivey0126 said:
NIH- National Institute of Health Cheers "We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15 | |
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Arbwyth said:
WTF? That is a bizarre assertion if I've ever heard one. Addiction CAN occur with anybody, regardless of the condition, but what you've just said is that anybody with chronic pain who takes painkillers automatically has an addiction. I don't know if the wording is unclear and I'm misunderstanding, but if not, that is a pretty nasty thing to say as tons of people have chronic pain and use painkillers. I'm not saying Prince did or did not have an addiction, but saying that the general tilt of your assertion is insanely wrong. (Not to mention, "painkiller" does not always refer to opioids. Technically you're saying anyone who's taken ibuprofen for pain is addicted to it.) I do think that our country's reliance on opioids for pain to the exclusion of anything else is a horrendous mistake and our money and time would have been better spent on researching causes and long-term solutions to chronic pain. However, that doesn't change the fact that no, not everybody who takes opioids (which I assume is what you meant) is addicted to them. You are not misunderstanding, although we are talking opioid painkillers. Prescribed stuff. That was the conversation. So there was no need to put a long description before the word 'painkiller' every time. Yes, you can buy other kinds of household painkillers. Chronic pain, the type to ruin your day, is better served by prescribed stuff though. And it was opioids we were talking about. Mild opioids claim addiction after three days. You can buy this kind even over the counter in the UK (but will have to a answer a quick question to do so). Prince was on harder stuff, almost certainly. And for much, much longer. Probably a few years at least. And it IS addictive. Like nicotine or crack. The idea (is this was you are suggesting?) that you can 'opt out' of addiction to the harder variety of these is plain wrong. Overdosing at severe risk to life twice in a week tells a story too. If there is a freak genetic exception to the opium addiction rule, it sure as shit doesn't sound like our man was it. Yes, we are only taking TMZ's word that Prince was in a very bad way in Illinois. We can choose not to believe them or their sources. But like I say, the narrative that followed matches their story to the letter. | |
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captiveunicorn said: ivey0126 said: Unfotunately, I feel like this is going to boil down to how healthy he was at the (which does not seem to be like he was very healthy at all). I know most people will probably not want to hear this but I genuinely believe he died from complications of flu complied with an already deteriorated immune system. The flu is no joke and if you push yourself as hard as he did then it can kill you as it has done to millions before. SOunds mundane but I think this is what happened. I'm not sure what to believe anymore but yes it's definitely possible. When my brother was 16 one of his fit young otherwise healthy team mates dropped dead during a soccer game trying to play with flu. Physical exertion and flu definitely don't mix well. As for the pill stuff... Honestly it frustrates me that some people keep trying to find the most sensational angle when there are absolutely no facts either way at this point. The specialist doctor who has confirmed that he was called was also a pain specialist, not just an opioid specialist. I think it is very likely he was in pain - going back over old videos, photos, etc you can see the change in his performances from running round dancing jumping etc then to moving around a bit but no dancing and then with the piano to sitting... Around 2014 some of the photos from tour you can see a change in his face and his eyes that at the time was attributed by commenters to tiredness but could equally be pain. Comments by people who saw him regularly have also suggested that he had been unwell for some time, so perhaps he had another underlying condition. However - even if he was in pain and/or taking pain meds or even addicted to them, that does not mean that is what killed him. It could have been flu, he also did a lot of flying so it could have been something as mundane as a blood clot. Until the results are made public, we're all just grasping at straws, basically. Good post!! I think it's important that it be pointed out that the dr was also a pain specialist. I truly believe his body built a tolerance to the pain meds and he wanted to get off them j stead of continuing to increase dose to get pain relief. You build tolerance fast to these meds....trust me , after 10 spine surgeries and no other option for pain, I have a pain mgt Dr myself. We have tried every non prescription therapy available but doesn't work for my level and type of pain. My dr compared it to someone w stage 4 cancer. Not fun. And not fun to be labeled an addict BC I live in debilitating but invisible pain that requires prescription pain meds. I woukdnt be surprised if he was tolerant / dependent and in a lot of pain and that breaks my heart. [Edited 5/17/16 13:17pm] [Edited 5/17/16 13:19pm] | |
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If his gardner decided to come out and say Prince wasn't addicted you tenderhearted would be grasping at that and screaming that you were right all along and that all these reports to the contrary are evil and trying to make money off a dead man.
Something obviously happened. Planes don't make emergency landings for the flu. I won't say people don't just drop dead, because that happens all the time, though it looks suspect when it happens to a man that was supposedly a bit of a health nut. And especially so when many reports are out saying he had an opiod problem.
None of us will know for sure until the atopsy and toxiology reprts are out, but the lengths some of you are going to to defend the man are silly.
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"Never let nasty stalkers disrespect you. They start shit, you finish it. Go down to their level, that's the only way they'll understand. You have to handle things yourself." | |
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"Never let nasty stalkers disrespect you. They start shit, you finish it. Go down to their level, that's the only way they'll understand. You have to handle things yourself." | |
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I'm with the people who think that the drugs had something to do with it. I don't see why the dea and these other agencies would spend so much energy on these things, ya, I know police can be some macho, attention seekers but I really think they must have info that we don't. I'm sure the coroners etc.., are all communicating with each other with info that they aren't giving us right now. | |
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I remember that experts were anticipating a heroin epidemic with returning vietnam vets because they were using the stuff in nam. it didn't happen, addiction seems to be mostly between the ears. | |
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Um,, there was an still is a heroin epidimic amongst vets from nam and the current conflicts | |
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well, i read that a heroin epidemic was predicted amongst vets coming back from nam and that it didn't happen nearly as bad as predicted. The point was that addiction and choice are somewhere in the same ballpark. | |
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Um i amn two tour combat vet and furtherr know plenty of nam vet..If you havenert wlaked in any of their shoes i would respectfully ask you to keep your thoughts of choice etc to yourself..
My unit has a shirt that says "while we were in Iraq killing,you were home chilling" so please stfu | |
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umm, don't take it personally, I'm just making a point. And don't think I'm just some whiny person at home chilling, I could have been a pro fighter so I know a thing or two about being a warrior. No need for you to get so defensive over some long ago studies that I cited, or personal, we ain't here for that. | |
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anyway, here is an article about it, I'm reading it now: http://www.npr.org/sectio...bad-habits | |
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could of and the point is you are talkign about some random study an not personal expereince,,, | |
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I'm just mentioning it, not even saying I know a lot about it, never tried heroin, hate drugs. etc.., Do I understand it? Fuck no, not really. Do I have patience for it? no not really, i've known addicts of all kinds and after awhile it's just tired. anyway, the only first hand experience I have with Heroin addiction and a vet was a navy seal i knew, he was a meat cutter at a store I worked at. good man, interesting man, highly intelligent but completely shattered. I felt terribly for him because i saw he had no hope. He had such severe war wounds that there was no way he could function without drugs and conversely, he couldn't function being hooked either. We all tried to help him and it was stressful for every one of us, the guy was just so likable. I often refer to him as probably the deadliest person I've ever known, and I've been around top mma fighters, he was a whole different breed, you could sense it. Not someone to toy with. Anyway, he ended up cutting off his finger when he nodded off at the saw, he lost the job obviously and we lost contact. I doubt if he's alive all these years later, last time I saw him, he didn't even notice me. He had that "thousand yard stare" and truth is, he never left the field. | |
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Pokeno4Money said:
acupuncture, physical therapy, exercise, massage, heat packs, reiki, plus less powerful meds and supplements are just some of the possibilities. there mught even be some nutritional aids. i'll pass on the raw eggs, though... "If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince..... | |
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no worries,, i was navy eod,, point is , when you experiecce humanity at its worst and see and partake in cruletly and violence scaled high, it affects you | |
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