Why are cancer and AIDS the only things people can possibly think of?

Bunsterdk said:

Not a Bowie fan, so I didn't follow it closely, but I seem to remember that he hid the fact that he was dying from cancer from the world? We have only the word of a known tabloid that Prince had aids and all that nonsense about stopping treatment to let God heal him. I have no problem with the aids diagnosis. I was young and wild in 80s, so I have known good people taken by aids. But there is absolutely nothing indicating that the story has any truth to it.

And to be frank, there is nothing indicating to the story that he had hip pain either. Prince never admitted to being in pain from his hip, and he sure didn't show it on stage, while dancing, walking, riding a bicycle, etc. There are just so many questions that weren't answered, like what about the serious, dangerously low blood cell count that they said the doctor told him he had, or why he had saw another doctor recently, not just the addiction doctor? What if the doctor that treated him for AIDS, had given him the Fentanyl to cope with the pain from the disease, and not from hip pain? You see, we just don't know, and I doubt we ever will! But apperently, something else was going on, because why all the secrecy, not wanting to list all the contributing factors to his death, and not wanting the autopsy to be released? Why, what's there to hide? I have never seen anything like this before. I have read many celebrities autopsies, and they were released with no problems, why not with Prince? It's just bizarre.

morningsong said:

Why are cancer and AIDS the only things people can possibly think of?

Because people aren't stupid, and know that there was more going on with Prince! Why are they so focused on him doing drugs, with many calling him a druggie and a hypocrite, because they knew how he used to feel about drugs, and used to preach to others about them! They have all said time and time again, that he'd never do drugs and what a clean life he led, so why aren't they questioning why he died of an overdose? That makes no sense!

I hate that hes gone ...

but I have lost intrest in for about 4 years now ....

I live in Texas and with hime not touring down south and frankly his music has gone to shit ... Thank GOD for I tunes because it saved me alot of money towards buying his shity music !! I can preview every song before I waste money on buying the whole album or CD !!! I have bought only eight songs from HIM over the past four years ... Ever since that JOSH bullshit !!

He had become boring to me !!

I have listen to him since 1999 but the last 4 to 5 years pretty damn boring ~!

madison said:

I hate that hes gone ...

but I have lost intrest in for about 4 years now ....

I live in Texas and with hime not touring down south and frankly his music has gone to shit ... Thank GOD for I tunes because it saved me alot of money towards buying his shity music !! I can preview every song before I waste money on buying the whole album or CD !!! I have bought only eight songs from HIM over the past four years ... Ever since that JOSH bullshit !!

He had become boring to me !!

I have listen to him since 1999 but the last 4 to 5 years pretty damn boring ~!

It never fails to amaze/amuse me to see someone who clearly speaks ill of Prince comes here to talk shit about him. Go away, we don't want to hear anything more from you troll.

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1contessa said:

morningsong said:

Why are cancer and AIDS the only things people can possibly think of?

Because people aren't stupid, and know that there was more going on with Prince! Why are they so focused on him doing drugs, with many calling him a druggie and a hypocrite, because they knew how he used to feel about drugs, and used to preach to others about them! They have all said time and time again, that he'd never do drugs and what a clean life he led, so why aren't they questioning why he died of an overdose? That makes no sense!

The Love We Make "Put down the needle, put down the spoon".

1contessa said:

morningsong said:

Why are cancer and AIDS the only things people can possibly think of?

Because people aren't stupid, and know that there was more going on with Prince! Why are they so focused on him doing drugs, with many calling him a druggie and a hypocrite, because they knew how he used to feel about drugs, and used to preach to others about them! They have all said time and time again, that he'd never do drugs and what a clean life he led, so why aren't they questioning why he died of an overdose? That makes no sense!

Maybe there was but why only cancer and AIDS?


And maybe, just maybe, he did get caught up in a cycle of legal prescription pain meds just to keep going. Pain isn't terminal but it's debilitating. And he was just a man. One who meant well, but had limits just the same. Fentanyl is a beast that can't be fought alone.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

FYI, Legally, "n/a" means "not applicable" and does not mean "none"

There is a difference.

Prince could have had other known medical conditions but those did not cause his death. Hence, the term "n/a" on the released report.

The Midwest Medical Examiner's report clearly has a list of "Cause" of death and then below that list of 4 it also says "Other significant conditions: na" which I wrote meaning - not applicable. I believe there is a difference between the "Cause" of death list of 4 category and the "Other significant conditions" category and that's not the same thing, thus it's in a separate category. I love Robin Williams who decided to take his own life after he had been diagnosed with the disease Parkinson's already in the early stages, and the pathology determined he also had Lewy body dementia, a disease that causes a progressive decline in mental abilities, developing memory and language problems and also experiencing vivid hallucinations. I love David Bowie (whom had cancer) and Freddie Mercury was amazing (whom had AIDS), I do not believe that Prince was dying from any significant conditions like cancer or AIDS and there is no evidence to support that he was or that he had Lewy body dementia or Parkinson's and decided to kill himself like Robin Williams. Claiming that he did have any of that is misleading speculation gossip. I suppose it's more comforting to people to think that Prince knew he was going to die and that he was able to prepare for it like those other icons. The sad facts are that Prince had hip pain and was trying to use as pain medication Percocet (which Prince had overdosed on) and Fentanyl (which killed Prince in an elevator alone), our hero Prince wasn't perfect and had developed an opioid dependency.

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rudeboynpg said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

FYI, Legally, "n/a" means "not applicable" and does not mean "none"

There is a difference.

Prince could have had other known medical conditions but those did not cause his death. Hence, the term "n/a" on the released report.

The Midwest Medical Examiner's report clearly has a list of "Cause" of death and then below that list of 4 it also says "Other significant conditions: na" which I wrote meaning - not applicable. I believe there is a difference between the "Cause" of death list of 4 category and the "Other significant conditions" category and that's not the same thing, thus it's in a separate category. I love Robin Williams who decided to take his own life after he had been diagnosed with the disease Parkinson's already in the early stages, and the pathology determined he also had Lewy body dementia, a disease that causes a progressive decline in mental abilities, developing memory and language problems and also experiencing vivid hallucinations. I love David Bowie (whom had cancer) and Freddie Mercury was amazing (whom had AIDS), I do not believe that Prince was dying from any significant conditions like cancer or AIDS and there is no evidence to support that he was or that he had Lewy body dementia or Parkinson's and decided to kill himself like Robin Willaims. Claiming that he did have any of that is misleading speculation gossip. I suppose it's more comforting to people to think that Prince knew he was going to die and that he was able to prepare for it and died the way we wanted like those other icons. The sad facts are that Prince had hip pain and was trying to use as pain medication Percocet (which Prince had overdosed on) and Fentanyl (which killed Prince in a elevator alone), our hero Prince wasn't perfect and had developed an opioid dependency.

A lot of people miss the "Other significant conditions" part.

Revolution said:

HIPPA laws wont allow full disclosure of the other significants. It stays in effect for 50 years after a person has deceased. Im starting to think that hip pain was not that bad, not to the fentanyl level. That was prescribed for other pain management. Both aids and cancer would explain weight loss. But it seems to me that his family and close friends are keeping his condition private for a reason. Could it be shame? Aids may have that effect in some circles. It would also explain his celibate lifestyle in recent years.

Funny that they would even have that section on the form in the first place if it's something by law they wouldn't use.

Fentanyl is also used when someone becames resistant to other pain medications. That's what's being fought against now. Something that was originally designed to be used for the terminally ill is being dispensed to people with debilitating pain issues only.

Again, there may be far more to this, and it doesn't have to be anything terminal but something highly chronic, crippling and life altering, which wouldn't be listed as significant as a cause of death.

morningsong said:

Revolution said:

HIPPA laws wont allow full disclosure of the other significants. It stays in effect for 50 years after a person has deceased. Im starting to think that hip pain was not that bad, not to the fentanyl level. That was prescribed for other pain management. Both aids and cancer would explain weight loss. But it seems to me that his family and close friends are keeping his condition private for a reason. Could it be shame? Aids may have that effect in some circles. It would also explain his celibate lifestyle in recent years.

Funny that they would even have that section on the form in the first place if it's something by law they wouldn't use.

Fentanyl is also used when someone becames resistant to other pain medications. That's what's being fought against now. Something that was originally designed to be used for the terminally ill is being dispensed to people with debilitating pain issues only.

Again, there may be far more to this, and it doesn't have to be anything terminal but something highly chronic, crippling and life altering, which wouldn't be listed as significant as a cause of death.

Hi Everyone, I’m new to org but not new to Prince. I joined a few weeks ago to start posting but realized I was still too overwhelmed with sadness to do so. Thanks to the org for the support, kindness, and humor. I never imaged his death and the grieving process would consume me as it has and the orgs members and threads have been a great relief and community therapy for me.

There was a blog post a few years ago on one of those blind gossip sites about Prince. I usually don’t pay attention to them because they are 95% bullshit. But in light of recent events, I couldn’t help remembering this one from 2014. P was in the hospital for 3 days due to sepsis from a b12 shot. You are more prone to sepsis if you have a weakened immune system from cancer treatments or HIV. The 2014 date also aligns with the date Kirk gave for paramedics to PP.

Link: http://www.crazydaysandni...-2-44.html

I’ve debated posting this because I hate for my first post to be just speculation and also, so much in these sites are either dead wrong or inaccurate. But because I couldn’t get this off my mind, I (selfishly) wanted to share this.

groovyp said:

morningsong said:

Funny that they would even have that section on the form in the first place if it's something by law they wouldn't use.

Fentanyl is also used when someone becames resistant to other pain medications. That's what's being fought against now. Something that was originally designed to be used for the terminally ill is being dispensed to people with debilitating pain issues only.

Again, there may be far more to this, and it doesn't have to be anything terminal but something highly chronic, crippling and life altering, which wouldn't be listed as significant as a cause of death.

Hi Everyone, I’m new to org but not new to Prince. I joined a few weeks ago to start posting but realized I was still too overwhelmed with sadness to do so. Thanks to the org for the support, kindness, and humor. I never imaged his death and the grieving process would consume me as it has and the orgs members and threads have been a great relief and community therapy for me.

There was a blog post a few years ago on one of those blind gossip sites about Prince. I usually don’t pay attention to them because they are 95% bullshit. But in light of recent events, I couldn’t help remembering this one from 2014. P was in the hospital for 3 days due to sepsis from a b12 shot. You are more prone to sepsis if you have a weakened immune system from cancer treatments or HIV. The 2014 date also aligns with the date Kirk gave for paramedics to PP.

Link: http://www.crazydaysandni...-2-44.html

I’ve debated posting this because I hate for my first post to be just speculation and also, so much in these sites are either dead wrong or inaccurate. But because I couldn’t get this off my mind, I (selfishly) wanted to share this.

Hello and welcome.

I don't know how legit that is but I'll say at least you're backing up your thought with something and it's new.

morningsong said:

groovyp said:

Hi Everyone, I’m new to org but not new to Prince. I joined a few weeks ago to start posting but realized I was still too overwhelmed with sadness to do so. Thanks to the org for the support, kindness, and humor. I never imaged his death and the grieving process would consume me as it has and the orgs members and threads have been a great relief and community therapy for me.

There was a blog post a few years ago on one of those blind gossip sites about Prince. I usually don’t pay attention to them because they are 95% bullshit. But in light of recent events, I couldn’t help remembering this one from 2014. P was in the hospital for 3 days due to sepsis from a b12 shot. You are more prone to sepsis if you have a weakened immune system from cancer treatments or HIV. The 2014 date also aligns with the date Kirk gave for paramedics to PP.

Link: http://www.crazydaysandni...-2-44.html

I’ve debated posting this because I hate for my first post to be just speculation and also, so much in these sites are either dead wrong or inaccurate. But because I couldn’t get this off my mind, I (selfishly) wanted to share this.

Hello and welcome.

I don't know how legit that is but I'll say at least you're backing up your thought with something and it's new.

Thank you for the welcome! The guy who runs the site used to be pretty spot on with the reveals but the quality has deteriorated in the past couple of years, so agree that the legitimacy is debatable.

I remember finding it strange a few months back when they made a big deal about Prince's passport photo and how young he looked, etc. Not sure if he put it out there or his publicist but it struck me as out of character for Prince. "Hey, look at me being totally not ill and looking great!"

It was like a rebuttal to an argument that nobody was making (that Prince looks like crap) and seemed to come out of nowhere. "Here's Prince! Doesn't he look terrific?"

herb4 said:

I remember finding it strange a few months back when they made a big deal about Prince's passport photo and how young he looked, etc. Not sure if he put it out there or his publicist but it struck me as out of character for Prince. "Hey, look at me being totally not ill and looking great!"

It was like a rebuttal to an argument that nobody was making (that Prince looks like crap) and seemed to come out of nowhere. "Here's Prince! Doesn't he look terrific?"

Oh, he'd been being "refreshing" himself. I've seen older photos where he was getting several lines and creases in his face that had suddenly disappeared off his face in more recent photos. Personally, I found them quite becoming but obviously he didn't. But there's nothing unique about that, it's common.

groovyp said:

morningsong said:

Hello and welcome.

I don't know how legit that is but I'll say at least you're backing up your thought with something and it's new.

Thank you for the welcome! The guy who runs the site used to be pretty spot on with the reveals but the quality has deteriorated in the past couple of years, so agree that the legitimacy is debatable.

Sure no problem. We've known for many years he took Vitamin B shots prior to performing a lot of people do, I myself don't know which one, but I guess it's B12. There could be a host of things involving that.



Worse case scenario, there was no pain. *sigh*

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madison said:

ksgemini63 said:

madison said:

I hate that hes gone ...

but I have lost intrest in for about 4 years now ....

I live in Texas and with hime not touring down south and frankly his music has gone to shit ... Thank GOD for I tunes because it saved me alot of money towards buying his shity music !! I can preview every song before I waste money on buying the whole album or CD !!! I have bought only eight songs from HIM over the past four years ... Ever since that JOSH bullshit !!

He had become boring to me !!

I have listen to him since 1999 but the last 4 to 5 years pretty damn boring ~!

Hey thanks for that invaluable positive contribution idiot. Big man in a redneck state behind his small keyboard... Fool

I agree. I'm all for differing opinions, but downright blasphemy?

WTH are you on this site for?

Feel free to cancel your account.

In your spare time, learn how to spell. You won't be missed.

ksgemini63 said:

madison said:

I hate that hes gone ...

but I have lost intrest in for about 4 years now ....

I live in Texas and with hime not touring down south and frankly his music has gone to shit ... Thank GOD for I tunes because it saved me alot of money towards buying his shity music !! I can preview every song before I waste money on buying the whole album or CD !!! I have bought only eight songs from HIM over the past four years ... Ever since that JOSH bullshit !!

He had become boring to me !!

I have listen to him since 1999 but the last 4 to 5 years pretty damn boring ~!

Hey thanks for that invaluable positive contribution idiot. Big man in a redneck state behind his small keyboard... Fool

Easy now. He's just saying he didn't like the latter stage music.

Bunsterdk said:

Not a Bowie fan, so...

I stopped right there.

Revolution said:

morningsong said:

Revolution said:

The afro angle: ya'll know that thing was fucked up for the most part. Could it be that it was a wig brought on from chemo treatments? There was that long lapse of time when nothing got released. Maybe he did like his brother and bought some more.

One of his last pictures, it's on his instagram his hair has a kind of part you can see his scalp, you can't do that, like that, with a wig. Chemo ain't no joke my aunt went to her second treatment 3 days later while washing her hair, large handfuls of hair from all over her head came out, it wasn't little bits of shedding over time it was literally a head full of hair one day, practically bald the next.

Thanks. I noticed his part too. I think that was his real hair.

groovyp said:

morningsong said:

Hi Everyone, I’m new to org but not new to Prince. I joined a few weeks ago to start posting but realized I was still too overwhelmed with sadness to do so. Thanks to the org for the support, kindness, and humor. I never imaged his death and the grieving process would consume me as it has and the orgs members and threads have been a great relief and community therapy for me.

Hi groovyp. I can relate to how you are feeling. I haven't posted on the org in years but I too have found it a great place to remember how great Prince was and communicate with other fans, deal with the grief of his death...I hadn't been keeping tabs on Prince for a long time but had been a long time fan since I was 12 . His death shocked me and I was taken aback with how much it has deeply saddened me and I have rediscovered his music again. I know how you feel.

herb4 said: