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Thread started 05/10/16 7:34am

GaryMF

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Songs about/inspired by Susannah

Can we makea list of songs we know/suspect are about/sinpried by Susannah Melvoin:

* The Beautiful Ones

* Nothing Compares 2 U

* Adore???

* Condition of the Heart

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Reply #1 posted 05/10/16 7:49am

Musze

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GaryMF said:

Can we makea list of songs we know/suspect are about/sinpried by Susannah Melvoin:

* The Beautiful Ones

* Nothing Compares 2 U

* Adore???

* Condition of the Heart

........

I belive the recorded, and subsequently trashed, "Wally" is to be included.

I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore...
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Reply #2 posted 05/10/16 7:51am

Lianachan

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You can remove Nothing Compares 2 U, and add Empty Room.

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Reply #3 posted 05/10/16 10:22am

TrivialPursuit

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Lianachan said:

You can remove Nothing Compares 2 U, and add Empty Room.

Yeah, I'd more recently heard that he wrote that after hearing about a breakup Jerome Benton had with his girlfriend. I never thought it was from Susannah. They were still very much together at that point.

prince

Susannah told the story of "Starfish and Coffee", so she, or at least part of her and Wendy's childhood, was an inspiration for that.

prince

I'm pretty sure Prince, in the last couple of years, said that "The Beautiful Ones" was not about Susannah. But with Prince, I always wonder when he's just trying to kill a rumor, even if it's true. Way back in the day, we all thought it was about Vanity. But it could have been about Susan. Not sure we'll ever know at this point.

prince

Shouldn't "Strange Relationship" be on that, too?

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #4 posted 05/10/16 10:32am

avajane

Only he knows who were the inspirations for his songs. Though lately people have been claiming that the entire Purple Rain album was inspired by Vanity, as well as 1999, and other songs like Strange Relationship and Adore were inspired by Vanity. Who knows? Only Prince but then he never had a chance to write his memoir so I guess we'll never know.
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Reply #5 posted 05/10/16 10:37am

2elijah

avajane said:

Only he knows who were the inspirations for his songs. Though lately peole have been claiming that the entire Purple Rain album was inspired by Vanity, as well as 1999, and other songs like Strange Relationship and Adore were inspired by Vanity. Who knows? Only Prince but then he never had a chance to write his memoir so I guess we'll never know.



True. I think in a past interview he sort of debunked, some songs that some fans claimed which exes, he wrote a song for or which one inspired him to write it.
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Reply #6 posted 05/10/16 10:40am

OldFriends4Sal
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TrivialPursuit said:

Lianachan said:

You can remove Nothing Compares 2 U, and add Empty Room.

Yeah, I'd more recently heard that he wrote that after hearing about a breakup Jerome Benton had with his girlfriend. I never thought it was from Susannah. They were still very much together at that point.

prince

Susannah told the story of "Starfish and Coffee", so she, or at least part of her and Wendy's childhood, was an inspiration for that.

prince

I'm pretty sure Prince, in the last couple of years, said that "The Beautiful Ones" was not about Susannah. But with Prince, I always wonder when he's just trying to kill a rumor, even if it's true. Way back in the day, we all thought it was about Vanity. But it could have been about Susan. Not sure we'll ever know at this point.

prince

Shouldn't "Strange Relationship" be on that, too?

yeah there were people in the camp who had reason to believe it was about Susannah

People use inspiration for people they are into along with other things.
I tend to believe the Beautiful Ones was inspired by her.
G-Spot and Electric Intercourse were already in that spot. He met Susannah and wanted her, wrote that song and wanted to include it instead. This is what came out of the purple camp back then.

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Reply #7 posted 05/10/16 10:44am

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AOL LIVE / JULY 22, 1997

Question: What was your inspiration for the song Forever In My Life?
TheArtst: Susannah
TheArtst: she knows

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Reply #8 posted 05/10/16 10:45am

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In This Bed I Scream -Susannah Wendy & Lisa

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Reply #9 posted 05/10/16 10:54am

Genesia

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If I Was Your Girlfriend is said to have been inspired by how Prince envied the closeness of Susannah and Wendy's relationship.

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Reply #10 posted 05/10/16 10:59am

DiscoBallz

Splash, Big Tall Wall, Crystal Ball, Strange Relationship, to name a few.

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Reply #11 posted 05/10/16 11:00am

avajane

In the 1995 AMA speech he gave when receiving a recognition award, the first people he thanked were Wendy and Susannah, followed by Lisa. You could tell those 3 women had a significant role in some of Prince's music, whether they served as inspirations or influences.
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Reply #12 posted 05/10/16 2:42pm

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He said in an interview (Jet magazine i believe?) he wrote The Beautiful Ones for Vanity, after she left him...he also said at the February 16th show, after she died, when dedicating songs to her, right b4 he sang the song ''she knows about this one....'' not sure about any others smile A lot of Purple Rain was about her, i have read that several times.

Carmen Electra even confirmed that when she talked about Prince & Vanity's deathsin April..they were the same age..passed so close together..she said she wasn't surprised bcuz she felt they were soulmates and that she knew ''Purple Rain was all about Vanity...'' that was on the msn.com website after his passing when she was interviewed.

''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #13 posted 05/10/16 2:46pm

paulludvig

DiscoBallz said:

Splash, Big Tall Wall, Crystal Ball, Strange Relationship, to name a few.

SR was written before Susannah came on the ecene.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #14 posted 05/10/16 2:47pm

paulludvig

Genesia said:

If I Was Your Girlfriend is said to have been inspired by how Prince envied the closeness of Susannah and Wendy's relationship.

Prince recently talked about how he was inspired by a scene in the movie The Way We Were

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #15 posted 05/11/16 3:22pm

GaryMF

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Interesting, thanks y'all.

I saw a (really bad) gay movie a while back that Susannnah a had a bit part in.

I watched the (stupid) director's commentary and he made reference to the fact that Susannah had been engaged to Prince and that he wrote "that song" about her, but got the title wrong (He was trying to say "Nothing Compares 2 U" but he said something like "Noone is better than you" or somehow mangled the title). So I guess he wasn't a very reliable Source!!!

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Reply #16 posted 05/11/16 5:22pm

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avajane said:

Only he knows who were the inspirations for his songs. Though lately people have been claiming that the entire Purple Rain album was inspired by Vanity, as well as 1999, and other songs like Strange Relationship and Adore were inspired by Vanity. Who knows? Only Prince but then he never had a chance to write his memoir so I guess we'll never know.
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Didn't Prince just say that The Beautiful Ones and Adore were about Vanity himself in his concert right after her passing?
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Reply #17 posted 05/11/16 5:35pm

avajane

mechanicalemotion17 said:

avajane said:

Only he knows who were the inspirations for his songs. Though lately people have been claiming that the entire Purple Rain album was inspired by Vanity, as well as 1999, and other songs like Strange Relationship and Adore were inspired by Vanity. Who knows? Only Prince but then he never had a chance to write his memoir so I guess we'll never know.
[Edited 5/10/16 10:35am]


Didn't Prince just say that The Beautiful Ones and Adore were about Vanity himself in his concert right after her passing?

If he said that himself then I guess they were.
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Reply #18 posted 05/12/16 11:19am

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mechanicalemotion17 said:

avajane said:
Only he knows who were the inspirations for his songs. Though lately people have been claiming that the entire Purple Rain album was inspired by Vanity, as well as 1999, and other songs like Strange Relationship and Adore were inspired by Vanity. Who knows? Only Prince but then he never had a chance to write his memoir so I guess we'll never know. [Edited 5/10/16 10:35am]
Didn't Prince just say that The Beautiful Ones and Adore were about Vanity himself in his concert right after her passing?

hard to see him writing a song in 1986 like that about Vanity

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Reply #19 posted 05/12/16 11:22am

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paulludvig said:

DiscoBallz said:

Splash, Big Tall Wall, Crystal Ball, Strange Relationship, to name a few.

SR was written before Susannah came on the ecene.

that doesn't mean anything, the words don't seem to have been finished until 1986

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Reply #20 posted 05/12/16 11:24am

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GaryMF said:

Can we makea list of songs we know/suspect are about/sinpried by Susannah Melvoin:

* The Beautiful Ones

* Nothing Compares 2 U

* Adore???

* Condition of the Heart

........

Condition of the Heart is supposed to be some kind of early story of Under the Cherry Moon

a line or two about someone being mistaken for another a fan told me was about Wendy & Susannah. You know Prince loved that whole twin thing

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Reply #21 posted 05/12/16 11:27am

avajane

OldFriends4Sale said:



GaryMF said:


Can we makea list of songs we know/suspect are about/sinpried by Susannah Melvoin:



* The Beautiful Ones



* Nothing Compares 2 U



* Adore???



* Condition of the Heart



.....





Condition of the Heart is supposed to be some kind of early story of Under the Cherry Moon



a line or two about someone being mistaken for another a fan told me was about Wendy & Susannah. You know Prince loved that whole twin thing




Well, he was a gemini, plus wasn't his mother a twin as well?
Love is God,
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Reply #22 posted 05/12/16 11:37am

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avajane said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Condition of the Heart is supposed to be some kind of early story of Under the Cherry Moon

a line or two about someone being mistaken for another a fan told me was about Wendy & Susannah. You know Prince loved that whole twin thing

Well, he was a gemini, plus wasn't his mother a twin as well?

idk about his mother

yeah, I was surprised at how much of the twin/gemini thing is throught his music, even earlier stuff


Even the computer blue scene movie script Wendy was supposed to be made to look like him 'Prince is going down on himself' not to mention the mother/skipper scene in the script -more twin stuff

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Reply #23 posted 05/12/16 11:45am

paulludvig

OldFriends4Sale said:

paulludvig said:

SR was written before Susannah came on the ecene.

that doesn't mean anything, the words don't seem to have been finished until 1986

Maybe not completely finished, but the theme was clearly expressed in the pre-Susannah version:

"Bet you wish this was a movie

then you could re-write my every line

Oh baby I take the blame girl, but I want you to know

I didn't like it baby, so I had to make it mine

I can't stand to see you happy

I hate to see you sad

[...] (I can't here this part)

What's this strange relationship"

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The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #24 posted 05/12/16 12:48pm

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Susannah's Pajamas

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