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Filmmaker: Prince May Have Had a Will After All



Speculation suggests that the document may be in Canada, author/filmmaker Ian Halperin tells TheWrap


A filmmaker researching Prince's final days says insiders he's spoken insist that Prince did have a will after all, contrary to legal papers filed by his sister.....................

Link: http://www.thewrap.com/fi...after-all/

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Reply #1 posted 05/11/16 3:32pm

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Imma need these shenanigans to cease...I know damn well he had a will.

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Reply #2 posted 05/11/16 3:36pm

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Well, if someone hoping to cash in by sensationalizing Prince's death -- who has done a so-called documentary on a family built on a woman's sex tape (rofl) -- and has made a living by sensenationalizing other dead celebrities -- says there's a will, then we have to believe him!

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Where's the eye roll emoji?

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Reply #3 posted 05/11/16 3:38pm

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suomynona said:

Well, if someone hoping to cash in by sensationalizing Prince's death -- who has done a so-called documentary on a family built on a woman's sex tape (rofl) -- and has made a living by sensenat...elebrities -- says there's a will, then we have to believe him!

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Where's the eye roll emoji?

Exactly. I think Prince left no will. He never cared about the past. Why would he have left a will then? Specially considering he was not very close to his half siblings? It's very confusing.

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Reply #4 posted 05/11/16 3:41pm

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He probably did have one.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #5 posted 05/11/16 3:42pm

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It is a reach to call this guy a filmmaker or an author. He may have done both, but I'll make a comparison everyone on this website can understand.

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Ian Halperin is the "Jughead" of filmmaker/authors.

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Reply #6 posted 05/11/16 3:44pm

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Ian Halperin is the "1999: The New Master" of filmmakers/authors.

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Reply #7 posted 05/11/16 3:46pm

jstar69

I for one think there is a will - and i think there may be some credence to his statement 'he’s been told there are friends and family members of the musician who could have an interest in concealing the will, as they might not have benefited from it.'

Time will tell or is time a trick...

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Reply #8 posted 05/11/16 3:56pm

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It's possible to make wills secret in probate court in Minnesota, so it is in fact possible that he had one (not certain) in Minnesota and which cannot be revealed until the death certificate is issued. Im not sure this guys talk about Canada makes sense, but who knows.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #9 posted 05/11/16 3:58pm

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I hope he had a will and I hope it doesn't say to burn the contents of the vault. I can't imagine he didn't have a will yet knew he was dying. They should check with Canada, Spain and wherever he had that island home.
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Reply #10 posted 05/11/16 3:59pm

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OzlemUcucu said:

Exactly. I think Prince left no will. He never cared about the past. Why would he have left a will then? Specially considering he was not very close to his half siblings? It's very confusing.

That's exactly why he would have (or at least should have) had one. Why let them have a claim? Or let random folks show up claiming to be kids? Instead, it's being fought over by people he didn't seem to have active relationships with, and they are (potentially) in a position to handle his musical legacy as well. You think he wanted that? You think he wasn't smart enough to realize that would be the result of not having a will? You think someone with as much legal and business wrangling going on around him and with as many lawyer friends as he had didn't have a will?!! Heck, considering how much we've heard about his humanitarian efforts, isn't it kind of surprising he didn't have something set up charity wise? I mean, rather than let this happen. This wasn't about the past--a will is about the future... and if anything mattered to Prince beyond himself (and what he did or did not do with his possessions during his life), then it would make sense to have a will. And I don't believe he was that egocentric or that shortsighted.

I also find it very difficult to believe that he really didn't leave some instructions about the music. It just does not make sense to me. And I can't see how it would make sense to anyone.

Now, Ian Halperin doesn't seem like a particularly savory character, but I still think there was a will. And I'll probably keep thinking it whether one ever shows up or not.

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Reply #11 posted 05/11/16 4:07pm

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EddieC said:

OzlemUcucu said:

Exactly. I think Prince left no will. He never cared about the past. Why would he have left a will then? Specially considering he was not very close to his half siblings? It's very confusing.

That's exactly why he would have (or at least should have) had one. Why let them have a claim? Or let random folks show up claiming to be kids? Instead, it's being fought over by people he didn't seem to have active relationships with, and they are (potentially) in a position to handle his musical legacy as well. You think he wanted that? You think he wasn't smart enough to realize that would be the result of not having a will? You think someone with as much legal and business wrangling going on around him and with as many lawyer friends as he had didn't have a will?!! Heck, considering how much we've heard about his humanitarian efforts, isn't it kind of surprising he didn't have something set up charity wise? I mean, rather than let this happen. This wasn't about the past--a will is about the future... and if anything mattered to Prince beyond himself (and what he did or did not do with his possessions during his life), then it would make sense to have a will. And I don't believe he was that egocentric or that shortsighted.

I also find it very difficult to believe that he really didn't leave some instructions about the music. It just does not make sense to me. And I can't see how it would make sense to anyone.

Now, Ian Halperin doesn't seem like a particularly savory character, but I still think there was a will. And I'll probably keep thinking it whether one ever shows up or not.

Do you really think prince would want to be penalised 50% of his estate in death taxes....I think not!

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Reply #12 posted 05/11/16 4:12pm

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doodles said:

I hope he had a will and I hope it doesn't say to burn the contents of the vault. I can't imagine he didn't have a will yet knew he was dying. They should check with Canada, Spain and wherever he had that island home.

Who says he knew he was dying? This is nonsense.

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Reply #13 posted 05/11/16 4:14pm

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EddieC said:

OzlemUcucu said:

Exactly. I think Prince left no will. He never cared about the past. Why would he have left a will then? Specially considering he was not very close to his half siblings? It's very confusing.

That's exactly why he would have (or at least should have) had one. Why let them have a claim? Or let random folks show up claiming to be kids? Instead, it's being fought over by people he didn't seem to have active relationships with, and they are (potentially) in a position to handle his musical legacy as well. You think he wanted that? You think he wasn't smart enough to realize that would be the result of not having a will? You think someone with as much legal and business wrangling going on around him and with as many lawyer friends as he had didn't have a will?!! Heck, considering how much we've heard about his humanitarian efforts, isn't it kind of surprising he didn't have something set up charity wise? I mean, rather than let this happen. This wasn't about the past--a will is about the future... and if anything mattered to Prince beyond himself (and what he did or did not do with his possessions during his life), then it would make sense to have a will. And I don't believe he was that egocentric or that shortsighted.

I also find it very difficult to believe that he really didn't leave some instructions about the music. It just does not make sense to me. And I can't see how it would make sense to anyone.

Now, Ian Halperin doesn't seem like a particularly savory character, but I still think there was a will. And I'll probably keep thinking it whether one ever shows up or not.

All we know is there is no will. Maybe someone just trashed his will. However, I do think Prince did not think he was going to die anytime soon. Maybe he had no will, after all..

Prince I will always miss and love U.
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Reply #14 posted 05/11/16 6:18pm

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Well, if someone hoping to cash in by sensationalizing Prince's death -- who has done a so-called documentary on a family built on a woman's sex tape (rofl) -- and has made a living by sensenationalizing other dead celebrities -- says there's a will, then we have to believe him!

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Where's the eye roll emoji?

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You're killing it today.

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Reply #15 posted 05/11/16 6:21pm

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jstar69 said:



EddieC said:




OzlemUcucu said:



Exactly. I think Prince left no will. He never cared about the past. Why would he have left a will then? Specially considering he was not very close to his half siblings? It's very confusing.




That's exactly why he would have (or at least should have) had one. Why let them have a claim? Or let random folks show up claiming to be kids? Instead, it's being fought over by people he didn't seem to have active relationships with, and they are (potentially) in a position to handle his musical legacy as well. You think he wanted that? You think he wasn't smart enough to realize that would be the result of not having a will? You think someone with as much legal and business wrangling going on around him and with as many lawyer friends as he had didn't have a will?!! Heck, considering how much we've heard about his humanitarian efforts, isn't it kind of surprising he didn't have something set up charity wise? I mean, rather than let this happen. This wasn't about the past--a will is about the future... and if anything mattered to Prince beyond himself (and what he did or did not do with his possessions during his life), then it would make sense to have a will. And I don't believe he was that egocentric or that shortsighted.



I also find it very difficult to believe that he really didn't leave some instructions about the music. It just does not make sense to me. And I can't see how it would make sense to anyone.



Now, Ian Halperin doesn't seem like a particularly savory character, but I still think there was a will. And I'll probably keep thinking it whether one ever shows up or not.




Do you really think prince would want to be penalised 50% of his estate in death taxes....I think not!



Currently and now and forever!!!! Prince is debt free!!!! No penalties will be in play.
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Reply #16 posted 05/11/16 9:35pm

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Ofcourse he will have had a will an people who he wanted yo run things if an when he died .. An if theres truth of him knowing he was dying of aids .it would be a no brainer .

Dick makes a few good points . Hoe many people dying of aid are doing gigs .riding bikes an looking an sounding so good ...

Prince was a mysterious guy to some extent
An maybe his death will remain shrouded in mystery also
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Aids thing? HIV Since 90s thing? ... Maybe so
In 1996 his son was born .. I believe she tried again an misscarried . an she never had kids since ... prince married again an never had kids . But she had a kid since divorced ... .. Also prince changed massively as an artist an a man in the late 90s he never said the f word on stage or on record again since 1997s a The Truth ... He avoided sexual songs . Became a different guy ... Which happens getting older an becoming a johovas witness but maybe finding out he got hiv is why he suddenly stopped doing many songs like cream etc it would make anyone not want to sing an write songs glorifing the lifestyle tgat leads to hiv
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Reply #17 posted 05/11/16 10:06pm

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I don't trust this person he is most definately a bottomfeeder, wrote that crappy MJ book several years ago mad stfu

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #18 posted 05/11/16 11:00pm

morningsong

He doesn't until he does. That's all there is to it.
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Reply #19 posted 05/11/16 11:06pm

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Here's what I can't fathom. By all accounts Prince was a noted philanthropist. Why wouldn't he earmark money for causes like music in schools? I can't imagine he wouldn't want at least part of the profits from his life work to go to something like that.

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Reply #20 posted 05/11/16 11:22pm

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I flipping well hope so. I can't believe the Perfectionist Prince would have been so scatter brained.

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Reply #21 posted 05/12/16 12:26am

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Bohemian67 said:

I flipping well hope so. I can't believe the Perfectionist Prince would have been so scatter brained.


Ditto!

There is a will. Don't believe the media merchants of chaos and disorder!
Tyka probably said she can't find the will, not think there is no will. That is why she had Bremer trust drill it open. They probably have been poring over countless video or DVDs footage for it. Thankfully the powers that be are delaying the release of the death certificate so that prince's family have time to find it before it's too late and WB gets their greedy corporate hands on everything. I saw the cnn or msnbc news report a few months ago in February or March i think trying to report a deal of prince getting his masters back and then they said
When he dies wb will regain control again and his estate. I was like WTF!!!!!
It was like last curtain call all over again!!!!! My very soul fell and I knew that very moment that prince was going to be gone soon. What I don't get is why didn't someone in prince's camp inform prince and have him set record sraight with the f'ing media! Did they do this so that the public would believe that prince gave his estate to WB? The fans know that's BS but the public believes anything on the news! I think this is why we have not heard much yet on the autopsy and toxology. Because the chanhassen mpls law enforcement respected prince in the community and they are buying his family time to find his will before the death certificate is released and the WB Vultures RAIN in and steal prince's estate and paisley park/vault for their WB catalogue! So I ask all of u that are prince fans why u badmouth prince's blood relatives? No matter what problems they had they were is blood and next of kin. They deserve everything he worked so hard for all his life. Not WB and what I am currently extremely fearing are murdering thieves just like branca and Sony! All I can do is pray to God the percosit shit is just media bs and the report comes back with death by stroke or hemorage seizure and not shot up pumped up with percosit! It's almost like another p word for propofol and the media does not have much of an imagination when they lie. Like oh the public won't believe propofol for insomnia so lets say percosit. They heard about a hip problem from way back and ran with it.
Even tho prince had insomnia too I guess they were wise enough to not use propofol again. This is all just thoughts and speculation. But with all the red flags and the media drug BS, I have no recourse than to think the worst. U can't tell me that after 7 years of the murder/theft of Mj's estate cause the family could not find a will that was stolen and destroyed and Londell McMillan was representing Mjs mother Katherine and the la judge let branca and MacLain present a forged will for $1 million up front. Bribery! Therefore giving the estate to branca and McClain as executors. Mj fired them years ago in early
90's for screwing prince under the table while representing him in deal with Raffalo cavallo and fargnoli mgmt. u can't tell me that after all that prince didn't damn well have a will and keep it the most sacred and secured placed he felt. That vault! So that if anything bad happened to him he could feel secure who what where and how his estate music and paisley park would be given to and maintained. Who would be in charge. It may not have been family but it sure nuff would NOT be a music Corp.
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Reply #22 posted 05/12/16 12:59am

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I just found out tonight on Rachel Maddow show on msnbc that tom barrack of colony capital is holding or hosting fundraiser for Donald trump! Tom barrack stole Michael's properties from him Including neverland and havenhurst. They owned the properties through theft and shady dealing at the time of his murder so tom barrack had keys and access to mj's properties to get will. Don't know why didn't just keep it in bank safe deposit box.?. Tom barrack is republican golf buddies with Phillip anschutz aeg/Paul gongaware forget spelling of his last name, Mjs murderer randy Phillips and Mafiosa tohme tohme and Sony reps John branca (branca law firm see controversy zine #29 page 6 "prince files lawsuit")and John McClain. So prince had to have been smart about having a will and in a safe place. He wouldn't want crooks owning his estate!
He was always in control. And no will, my a@@!
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Reply #23 posted 05/12/16 1:04am

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Ian Halperin is a joke and he's done this before. He wrote an utterly shitty book about MJ to cash in on his death in 2009.

This guy is pure scum.

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Reply #24 posted 05/12/16 1:13am

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ZafDilek said:

Ian Halperin is a joke and he's done this before. He wrote an utterly shitty book about MJ to cash in on his death in 2009.



This guy is pure scum.


Yeah, there are lots of scumbags out there like him too!
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Reply #25 posted 05/12/16 1:22am

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So sad these unsavory characters that come creeping around trying to cash in on the unfortunate and unexpected passing of someone well known. The only way he can make a name for himself is leeching onto and using someone as wonderful as Prince. Blech
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Why is it that someone as unhealthy looking as Donald trump is alive?.....and healthy organic sometimes vegan and always alive and vibrant prince.....is dead?????
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Why God have u left me here in this evil f'ing world all alone without Mj and prince with the Anne Christian/ anti-Christ!.....what did I do to deserve this living hell!!!!!






I'll live the rest of my life in taxi cabs.....
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Halpetin is an evil scumbag merchant of chaos. In this article he is again portraying and accusing prince's own blood relatives of not only theft or concealment of a will but also that prince would neglect them and not leave them anything! What MF nonsense! BS! Hamperin can kiss my a@@! He is doing this to make the public accept a WB fake will later. Insinuating that prince's own family would be shunned and left with nothing so that evil corporatist golf resort buddies can inherit prince's estate instead! It's beyond disgusting!!!!!
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Reply #29 posted 05/12/16 2:38am

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I think there 'was'a will somewhere.

I also must admit that, where I'm not one to speculate over other people's grief, I do feel the whole process following his death moved too quickly into court proceedings. Then all these battles over who he loved the most/who loved him the most and where his offspring might, or might not be, just smatter of greed too.

No one has just sat back and questioned what he really might have wanted. How his legacy should live on. Everything seems to have steamrolled on without proper thought. He always talked about 'cause and affect', consequences and actions and was careful in how he conducted himself in everyday life. The mere fact that no instruction sits there from him following his death is so inconsistent to who he was. He seemed to be in control, certainly on the surface at least, right until the end. Even with the alleged addiction it seemed he was attempting to take control (seeking help), rather than allowing it to control him.
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