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Thread started 05/10/16 6:20am

Grog

Closure? What Will You Need?

Have you reached closure? If so how? If not, what will it take for you? A definitive cause of death? Time? A public memorial service? All of the above? For me, I am not sure if I can ever have closure until I know how long he was in that elevator before someone found him. That part of the equation haunts me.

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Reply #1 posted 05/10/16 6:39am

lwr001

for someone to say , we was jusyt joking

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Reply #2 posted 05/10/16 6:43am

kapo74

It is real sad he died. The first couple of days I was really off my track, but I feel a lot better now. Time heals all wounds and besides, there's nothing I can do about anything.

The only official thing in the near future will be the autopsy results, that will settle a lot of speculation.

Anything to do with the estate isn't that interesting, nothing I can do about that, so I just have to wait for the first posthumus release. If it takes months or years, I'll see it when it comes.
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Reply #3 posted 05/10/16 6:55am

TessDeKegel

Waking up one day, someone telling me this was all just a bad dream ...

~I've seen the future and it will be. I've seen the future and it works.~
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Reply #4 posted 05/10/16 7:06am

beacheemom

I don't know if I will ever have full closure. Even after the autopsy results are given, I think I will still wonder if it's the truth unless it's telling us of an underlying condition. I read somewhere the autopsy only took 4 hrs as in that's a very short time for one. I don't know the truth behind how long they take, but it did make me wonder. Doesn't the family have the right to not tell what he actually died from? That's my fear. So how will we ever know the truth? I'm afraid we won't.
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Reply #5 posted 05/10/16 7:16am

cardinal

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my own journey to the other side. not trying to be morbid, but there will never be closure for me. i don't believe in it as a concept, and i know (and feel some weird relief at the idea) that prince, the genius, the musical master, the man even, has affected me so profoundly that i will not be the same person going forward.

i have accepted, even embraced, that reality.

that said, i agree that the elevator situation/last moments haunts me too. and i want to know if others contributed to his death by providing meds he shouldn't have had without closer monitoring. lots of questions. and i don't expect the answers to provide any relief. i fear that we will discover he was in a lot more pain and was suffering much more than anyone knew.

so the answers we seek may very well lead to more angst and more questions.

despite the fact that i will go on living (has anyone seen truly, madly deeply?) it will never be closed for me.


"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta bawl
"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #6 posted 05/10/16 7:20am

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I don't know what that overused psychobabble term "closure" means. It isn't like opening and closing a door. People learn to cope with life's tragedies differently and in varying degrees. Whatever we go through, it shapes us and changes us. And move on, we must.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #7 posted 05/10/16 7:25am

irresistiblebi
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TessDeKegel said:

Waking up one day, someone telling me this was all just a bad dream ...



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Reply #8 posted 05/10/16 7:37am

donnyenglish

Impossible given how much he meant to us. Giving fans access to his art is the only thing that can help. He had a vault for a reason. He knew he was not going to release the music in his lifetime because he was always living in the now. But, he knew that when his time to leave this earth came that his music could be given to the world and his fans.

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Reply #9 posted 05/10/16 7:54am

Strive

A clear vision of what's next. Who's in charge of his estate, who's curating his vault, what label his family decides to pair up with, what releases are top priority and where his legacy is heading.

Everything regarding Prince's final days seem more tragic as it comes into focus. I don't think any more details on that will make me feel any better.




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Reply #10 posted 05/10/16 8:09am

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I will never really get over this, not in this lifetime ...


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Reply #11 posted 05/10/16 8:14am

avajane

Until the toxicology reports come through and the public memorial will be held I'll receive closure. I'll always have his music so to me he always be alive and with me in good and bad times.
Love is God,
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Reply #12 posted 05/10/16 8:15am

boschino

I don't think i'll achieve 'closure'. It is getting 'easier', but...

I'll never forget receiving that text from a friend as soon as i got home, telling me to turn on the TV. I'll never forget the headline banner on Sky News, with those particular words in that particular order.

I'll never forget pacing up and down my flat, tearful, angry, and in utter disbelief. Punching the air, slamming my fist on the laptop keyboard when i went on line to get more info.

I'll never forget the following day, at work, when NC2U came on the radio. I bolted from the office and didn't go back til the following Monday.

I'll never forget the genuine outpouring of emotion, and esp Bruce Springsteen's tribute at his concert on the 23rd (which i still can't bring myself to watch), amongst countless others.

And I'll never forget how important this place was for me.

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Reply #13 posted 05/10/16 8:28am

bambi777

Grog said:

Have you reached closure? If so how? If not, what will it take for you? A definitive cause of death? Time? A public memorial service? All of the above? For me, I am not sure if I can ever have closure until I know how long he was in that elevator before someone found him. That part of the equation haunts me.

Theres not a day that goes by that I don't think about that...for that reason alone I know I will never have closure...Was he calling for help?...Did he know in that elevator his time was up and he was all alone?...Yes it's very haunting and disturbing to me...Hopefully One day I will have closure.

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Reply #14 posted 05/10/16 8:37am

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Grog said:

Have you reached closure? If so how? If not, what will it take for you? A definitive cause of death? Time? A public memorial service? All of the above? For me, I am not sure if I can ever have closure until I know how long he was in that elevator before someone found him. That part of the equation haunts me.


I want to know where he was going. If no cell on him, the phone for help?_? I want to know why there sad
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Reply #15 posted 05/10/16 8:45am

Welcome2daRevo
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I need to know the exact cause of death and what the plans are for the vault
CALL ME A DREAMER 2!
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Reply #16 posted 05/10/16 8:52am

SexFiendNikki

Prince wasn’t just an incredibly talented artist…words can’t describe what this man was to me. The first fan letter I ever wrote was to him. Him and his music has been a constant in my life. I’ve met strangers and connected with them after finding out they too were Prince fans.

I’ve finally accepted the fact that he is really gone, but I don’t think I’ll ever have closure. He had so much more to give this world and we all needed his gifts.

I don't care what the autopsy will show and I don't care about the events leading up to his death. It won't change the outcome.

The loss of this man has left a wound inside me that may hurt less eventually but will never fully heal.

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Reply #17 posted 05/10/16 9:02am

Genesia

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purplethunder3121 said:

I don't know what that overused psychobabble term "closure" means. It isn't like opening and closing a door. People learn to cope with life's tragedies differently and in varying degrees. Whatever we go through, it shapes us and changes us. And move on, we must.


Thank you.

We're still here, so our lives go on. Part of life is figuring how to go on in the face of whatever gets thrown at us.

Prince's physical self is gone. But a huge part of what he shared with us is still here. That's more than we have when a lot of those we care about die. I prefer to look at the bright side. shrug

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #18 posted 05/10/16 9:06am

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boschino said:

I don't think i'll achieve 'closure'. It is getting 'easier', but...

I'll never forget receiving that text from a friend as soon as i got home, telling me to turn on the TV. I'll never forget the headline banner on Sky News, with those particular words in that particular order.

I'll never forget pacing up and down my flat, tearful, angry, and in utter disbelief. Punching the air, slamming my fist on the laptop keyboard when i went on line to get more info.

I'll never forget the following day, at work, when NC2U came on the radio. I bolted from the office and didn't go back til the following Monday.

I'll never forget the genuine outpouring of emotion, and esp Bruce Springsteen's tribute at his concert on the 23rd (which i still can't bring myself to watch), amongst countless others.

And I'll never forget how important this place was for me.

Yeah I didn't go to work on the Friday - or even the Monday... or Tuesday. I just could not face anything. I still can't.

I don't know what will be closure. I really don't know... I am just heartbroken. I keep talking about it but think people must be bored of me now. sad

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Reply #19 posted 05/10/16 9:20am

tigerLily77

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I dont think i will really have full closure ......as we will never find out what really happened to him. neutral I think i will always carry a sadness with me at that fact.

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Ive found myself become some kind of investigator for the past few weeks..... listening to his last few albums... reading every and any article, watching old and newly emerged videos..... just trying to get a clue.

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I feel that if i don't that it is somehow letting him down.

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I guess time heals right? We'll see :/

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Reply #20 posted 05/10/16 9:23am

irresistiblebi
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BombFunk said:

I will never really get over this, not in this lifetime ...



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Reply #21 posted 05/10/16 9:27am

postiepaul3

TIME just alot of TIME. sad

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Reply #22 posted 05/10/16 9:49am

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BombFunk said:

I will never really get over this, not in this lifetime ...




Me neither. sad
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #23 posted 05/10/16 10:51am

tish9311

For closure I will need time, the autopsy report, investigation report and public memorial. I think about how MJ's memoria and Whiteny Houston's funeral made me feel, a strange relief. Funerals/memorials are for the living, the dead don't care. That is why I really appreciated the Jackson and Houston families for allowing the public to grieve with them. That also goes for Aaliyah and Left Eye's family.

I don' t think I would call it closure but total acceptance.

Beautiful, Loved and Blessed

Thank You Prince
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Reply #24 posted 05/10/16 11:03am

theloyalone

kapo74 said:

It is real sad he died. The first couple of days I was really off my track, but I feel a lot better now. Time heals all wounds and besides, there's nothing I can do about anything.

The only official thing in the near future will be the autopsy results, that will settle a lot of speculation.

Anything to do with the estate isn't that interesting, nothing I can do about that, so I just have to wait for the first posthumus release. If it takes months or years, I'll see it when it comes.



Good post! We really have to think like this with all disappointments that come up...even unlikely ones. I've discovered that life is STRANGER THAN FICTION!
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Reply #25 posted 05/10/16 11:09am

FUNKYNESS

That term, closure, use din this context, is a white thing. I dont need that. I dont seek it. My life will never bew the same without Prince. No amount of "closure" is going to change that in any way.

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Reply #26 posted 05/10/16 11:22am

Grog

FUNKYNESS said:

That term, closure, use din this context, is a white thing. I dont need that. I dont seek it. My life will never bew the same without Prince. No amount of "closure" is going to change that in any way.

Brother, pain, suffering, reconciliation, recovery, closure, etc. are race-neutral. I didn't start this post as "a white thing" or non-white thing, but as a human thing intended to help all humans. I think I understand where you're coming from, but the post applies to everyone. We are all hurting and most of us will be changed forever in some way, so let's try to focus on those common elements and attempt to help each other through this difficult period. Prince said, "in this life you're on your own," but I like to think we're all here on the org for each other. Thanks.

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Reply #27 posted 05/10/16 11:25am

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I don't think you can have full closure when you lose someone you love. Time heals wounds, life goes on and things will get better. But, that empty space is always there. It will never close.

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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Reply #28 posted 05/10/16 11:27am

Sander

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boschino said:

I don't think i'll achieve 'closure'. It is getting 'easier', but...



I'll never forget receiving that text from a friend as soon as i got home, telling me to turn on the TV. I'll never forget the headline banner on Sky News, with those particular words in that particular order.


I'll never forget pacing up and down my flat, tearful, angry, and in utter disbelief. Punching the air, slamming my fist on the laptop keyboard when i went on line to get more info.


(...)


And I'll never forget how important this place was for me.




Wow, that's exactly what happened to me! The anger took me by surprise. I hit the wall instead of the laptop. smile I suppose a lot of people had similar evenings. It kinda helps to read this, so thanks. A lot! smile
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Reply #29 posted 05/10/16 11:27am

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boschino said:

I don't think i'll achieve 'closure'. It is getting 'easier', but...



I'll never forget receiving that text from a friend as soon as i got home, telling me to turn on the TV. I'll never forget the headline banner on Sky News, with those particular words in that particular order.


I'll never forget pacing up and down my flat, tearful, angry, and in utter disbelief. Punching the air, slamming my fist on the laptop keyboard when i went on line to get more info.


I'll never forget the following day, at work, when NC2U came on the radio. I bolted from the office and didn't go back til the following Monday.


I'll never forget the genuine outpouring of emotion, and esp Bruce Springsteen's tribute at his concert on the 23rd (which i still can't bring myself to watch), amongst countless others.



And I'll never forget how important this place was for me.




Apart from the Bruce Springsteen thing, this is spot on for me. You summed it up perfectly. In answer to the initial question, I am planning to go to Minneapolis from the UK for the first time to pay my respects.
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