lezama said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

like the word love, friend is used way too loosely.

media associates

If you watch the interview where he Prince and Rosario are introducing the Welcome 2 Chicago shows, he speaks FOR Prince in a way that shows they know each other pretty well. And for Prince to call someone out of the blue and ask about somebody else's kids and tell then they gotta do something about them says they had a pretty good level of familiarity and closeness with each other. Thats not something media or business associates do with each other.

yes they do. I could do the same about coworkers bosses and supervisors.

blue22 said:

cardinal said:

i agree that friendships must have been tough if he wanted to be in control. that is not how friendship works as we all know. i don't completely agree on the women. several did move on to get married and have other relationships. apollonia and mani are married, and some of the others seem to have moved on,mwith the exception of mayte. but that poor girl met him when she was 16 and was svengalied. she never even had a chance to develop a mature self image without a man controlling it. she has herself said that she is screwed up for life. but i think people coming forward to say nice things about him does not necessarily mean they aren't over him. just that he was a very special person and they can recognize that despite their own current marriages or relationships. i mean, lets remember..many of these women chose to LEAVE HIM. and he was alone for the last ten years or so of his life, waiting for the right person, as he put it. was she really not out there? or did the person he wanted not really exist in real life 21st century usa? i have often wondered about that. "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta [Edited 5/11/16 15:35pm]

Oh OK. I didn't know about the ones moving on. I was thinking about Sheila, Denise, Mayte. I agree that people saying nice things is because of his magic. 100%. Denise said that she needed one person to love her and he needed many. He told Tatiana that too. I wonder if Susan moved on because she was even younger than Mayte by all accounts. [Edited 5/11/16 15:57pm]

Denise as in Vanity?

Susan Moonsie movied on quick, she was never up into Prince in the way people might think. That is why she was able to work with and be friends with Denise Matthews ie Vanity

babynoz said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

I'm disappointed no one really wants questions answered and for justice to be served. This never should have happened. I don't care if this one or that one was a friend. I'd like to know wtf happened. The inner circle people that just are defending Prince the person but comes a time they should be asking wtf happened? Prince should not have died this young and from sounds of it under these circumstances. I realize many are in denial but when are they going to wake up and start asking the difficult questions. Justice for Prince. Wtf, who the fuck, how did this man die? I don't think Van had a clue. I bet his small inner circle was only a couple people who knows, who know what gone wrong. Where is the mouth piece asking this? If something criminal gone down we need answers. If it does turn out to be something like the flu or blood clot so be it but where is the person at least asking? Why? If stupid doctors and enablers are involved they should pay the price. I hope someone just starts speaking if they do know things. I hope they at least go to the authorities. Prince is dead and gone he doesn't need protection or fools fighting over who was a real friend. Some justice would do.

People need to get out of panic mode already. Does anybody understand anything about investigations?

FFS, I know it's hard but be patient! Nothing anybody says or does is going to bring him back and that is what breaks my heart, but for the umteenth time until we have a set of facts to work with it is absurd to try to cast aspersions at this point in time.

It kills me that he was all alone but people need to calm down already and realize that there won't be a whole lot of credible info about what happened until we have a report from the ME and the Sheriff and that takes time.

Wouldn't people, (you included), much rather have them take their time and get it right than to rush it an overlook something important?

So many outbursts.

I'm just posting on a fan forum. Jeez. I'm not one of Prince's "friends" running on twitter and calling other people that knew him fake friends or in cat fights. I'm stating that these celeb types need to wake up and just state they want Justice for Prince. Think about it.

BombFunk said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

babynoz said:

People need to get out of panic mode already. Does anybody understand anything about investigations?

FFS, I know it's hard but be patient! Nothing anybody says or does is going to bring him back and that is what breaks my heart, but for the umteenth time until we have a set of facts to work with it is absurd to try to cast aspersions at this point in time.

It kills me that he was all alone but people need to calm down already and realize that there won't be a whole lot of credible info about what happened until we have a report from the ME and the Sheriff and that takes time.

Wouldn't people, (you included), much rather have them take their time and get it right than to rush it an overlook something important?

So many outbursts.

I'm just posting on a fan forum. Jeez. I'm not one of Prince's "friends" running on twitter and calling other people that knew him fake friends or in cat fights. I'm stating that these celeb types need to wake up and just state they want Justice for Prince. Think about it.

I'm with super wth happened to prince?

destinyc1 said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

I'm just posting on a fan forum. Jeez. I'm not one of Prince's "friends" running on twitter and calling other people that knew him fake friends or in cat fights. I'm stating that these celeb types need to wake up and just state they want Justice for Prince. Think about it.

I'm with super wth happened to prince?

Furry and I are well acquainted and I'm not with or against him but we really do need to take it down a few notches regarding situations that are out of our control such as when the investigation is completed. You are going to give yourselves a stroke because this could take a while.

Not to mention people who are jealous of his friends. It's petty and uncalled for.

SuperFurryAnimal said:

babynoz said:

People need to get out of panic mode already. Does anybody understand anything about investigations?

FFS, I know it's hard but be patient! Nothing anybody says or does is going to bring him back and that is what breaks my heart, but for the umteenth time until we have a set of facts to work with it is absurd to try to cast aspersions at this point in time.

It kills me that he was all alone but people need to calm down already and realize that there won't be a whole lot of credible info about what happened until we have a report from the ME and the Sheriff and that takes time.

Wouldn't people, (you included), much rather have them take their time and get it right than to rush it an overlook something important?

So many outbursts.

I'm just posting on a fan forum. Jeez. I'm not one of Prince's "friends" running on twitter and calling other people that knew him fake friends or in cat fights. I'm stating that these celeb types need to wake up and just state they want Justice for Prince. Think about it.

I know sweetie....it hurts bad. I'm still crying every day. I am just saying let's not give ourselves a stroke about things we have limited knowledge of and no control over. There is a reason that he said what he said.

lezama said:

coworkers call each other friends and family all the time

babynoz said:

babynoz said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

I'm just posting on a fan forum. Jeez. I'm not one of Prince's "friends" running on twitter and calling other people that knew him fake friends or in cat fights. I'm stating that these celeb types need to wake up and just state they want Justice for Prince. Think about it.

I know sweetie....it hurts bad. I'm still crying every day. I am just saying let's not give ourselves a stroke about things we have limited knowledge of and no control over. There is a reason that he said what he said.

Thanks. It sucks. You likely have a point that he said what he said because of a reason. I just hope that justice is served. Hopefully, someone prominent in the community will start to speak up some. Who knows possibly it will be Van. I noticed most are in protection mode. Just an observation. It is like they still have not realized that Prince is really gone.

I also know Babynoz, I think, from the PR forum but i haven't posted there in a year or so.

OldFriends4Sale said:

coworkers call each other friends and family all the time

And sometimes coworkers are actually friends and family.

You don't know the extent of Prince and Van's relationship, none of us do. We likely never will.

thisisreece said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

coworkers call each other friends and family all the time

And sometimes coworkers are actually friends and family.

You don't know the extent of Prince and Van's relationship, none of us do. We likely never will.

What is clear is the people that Prince knew and worked with if it be Van, Funkenberry, Jessie etc. He clearly had respect for these people if they were in his life. The extent of any of these friendships tough to tell. Some were likely business related but I also believe that keeping friendships business and everyone at a distance also creates good relationships that getting too close to anyone is a recipe for disaster and I sometimes wonder if Prince lived like that? But it is also speculation. I doubt they knew if anything criminal was going on except maybe a few yes men but we will see from the investigation.

Also this feud over who was a friend and the little cat fighting it is all silly. Silly.

thisisreece said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

coworkers call each other friends and family all the time

And sometimes coworkers are actually friends and family.

You don't know the extent of Prince and Van's relationship, none of us do. We likely never will.

This is true. Very true. Likely, all these relationships had various degrees of intimacy ("into me see"). The one thing certain if people worked for Prince or communicated with him on a regular basis he likely had an amount of respect and trust for them because clearly he was the boss. Van's message was Prince wanted to change the world for the better and quietly do so, nothing wrong with that.

RiotPaisley said:

babynoz said:

Furry and I are well acquainted and I'm not with or against him but we really do need to take it down a few notches regarding situations that are out of our control such as when the investigation is completed. You are going to give yourselves a stroke because this could take a while.

Not to mention people who are jealous of his friends. It's petty and uncalled for.

This is just a place where people can vent their anger and frustration- let people say what they need to here. If you don't like the wild speculations and crazy theories, don't read them. I'm sure people from Prince's camp know that people will say all kinds of crazy stuff and if they can't handle the absurdities then they are in for a long rough road. They should be more concerned with the state of his estate and the slander in the tabloids anyway. A lot of people, myself included, come here as our only place to really talk about him and as a place to grieve because most people in my life have no idea how much Prince meant to me. Telling people to calm down and shut up is really just kind of rude. Let people vent and be crazy. Sure Prince would have told everyone to relax, but he's not here and even when he was he could never feel how we feel for him. He didn't know his impact in that way because it is personal and unique to all. Grief has many stages and anger and denial are included. Let it out y'all cuz keeping it in will make you sick.

Please show exactly where I told anybody to shut up? You can't because it didn't happen. As far as Astasheiks is concerned, I was teasing him as I often do...he does the same to me.

What with you being here all of two weeks you may be on the outside looking in regarding long established connections that some of us have for years. It may appear rude to you but furry and I have gone to the mat many times and are still speaking to each other.

In other words, stay in your lane and you'll be fine.

SuperFurryAnimal said:

babynoz said:

I know sweetie....it hurts bad. I'm still crying every day. I am just saying let's not give ourselves a stroke about things we have limited knowledge of and no control over. There is a reason that he said what he said.

Thanks. It sucks. You likely have a point that he said what he said because of a reason. I just hope that justice is served. Hopefully, someone prominent in the community will start to speak up some. Who knows possibly it will be Van. I noticed most are in protection mode. Just an observation. It is like they still have not realized that Prince is really gone.

I also know Babynoz, I think, from the PR forum but i haven't posted there in a year or so.

It does suck, but hang in there bro. we all want justice and I do believe that they will get to the bottom of this eventually. Keep praying.

BombFunk said:

Since Van seems to be one of Prince's closest friends ...

Where the fuck was Van on Prince's lonely last night, just days after Prince's life already had to be saved for the first time with a save shot after the emergency landing? Even Prince cannot escape death twice in a row dude! That first time of saving his life should have been a fucking wake-up call for his fucking inner circle! But no, they all just left Prince alone, nothing changed. Did Van not realize it's not a good idea to leave Prince all alone by himself right after his life was already saved ONCE because of some medical urgent situation? (flu my ass!)

Why did Van not send someone over (nurse, doctor, personal assistent, friend, family member etc) to make 100% sure Prince was alright or to just keep an eye out? No matter what Prince wanted, just sleep on the kitchen floor and stay out of his way but just be there!

Why was there no (portable) emergency GPS system in place so Prince could press a button in case of an emergency (medical/robbery/kidnap attempt etc) and help would race to his location asap!? He was worth millions ffs. Not sure Prince had a cellphone, I think I read he did not have one which makes such a system even more important!

What a mess ... and now Van is waiting for what exactly?

I absolutely agree on this! It is a shame, that a gifted wonderful talented man like prince, was just left alone, after a serious medical incident, like in Moline, and it was obvious that he couldnt cope alone. Why was not someone by his side? His "best" friends Kirk, Graham, no one to be seen. Nobody really cared or they just thought he can handle it all by himself? Seriously, after someone almost died on OD??? Maybe he was trying to withdraw from the drugs and that is why his system couldnt tolerate the old quantities anymore, who knows. There should have been a doctor by his side at all times. It is dangerous to try and withdraw from such dangerous drugs all alone. Somebody definetely should have stayed at least in the house and checked on him on a hourly basis. He wasnt well, everybody confirmed that there was a serious medical urgency, when they called for those doctors from California. This should have been done long ago! And latest after the Moline incident, they should have stayed by Prince and watched over him 24/7! But nobody was in the house with him? I just cannot understand this. What a unnecessary death, that could have been avoided, if people around him, would have taken the situation serious enough and cared enough about him!!! R.I.P. Prince, you are DEARLY MISSED!!!

clairew1975 said:

thedoorkeeper said:

Who is Van Jones?

He is an "American political activist, commentator, author and attorney. He is a cofounder of several nonprofit organizations"

source: wikipedia

Van Jones was part of the early Obama administration (Green Jobs advisor) and has been a CNN/MSNBC commentator for years. Well-respected. He's also a Democratic strategist (and considering the many who claim P was Republican...it's obvious P's politics were all over the place).

BUT...if you're familiar with P's conspiracy theories, it's likely he got them from Jones.
http://www.politico.com/story/2009/09/van-jones-resigns-amid-controversy-026797

Wasn't Van Jones the person that P's "staff" called in New York, when they decided P was in trouble?
Jones was very close to California attorney Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins, who called Kornfield.

I think Jones was one of the few who really tried....and it seems those who tried, were NOT in the MPLS area. Those "friends" (Larry, Kirk, Romeo, and the assistant) were all employees. Larry Graham lived in a home that P owned...as did Kirk.

Yet...where was Larry?

clairew1975 said:

I came across this interesting Twitter conversation from Van Jones regarding the awful rumours about Prince that we have seen splashed all over the media etc.

Black_Out_Abe: "@VanJones68 I don't understand why more of his friends aren't coming out in defense of him and crap being put out there..."

Van Jones' Response - @Black_Out_ABE /we are just waiting to see who is who -- who is loyal & who is fake. I will tell you: he predicted every phony, 99 percent.

I hope his loyal friends will speak out soon, Prince deserves so much better....

Source:

https://twitter.com/VanJones68/status/729081911218450434

You know this kind of went right over my head at the time. Too busy in my own grief I guess. But what's with the we are just waiting to see... stuff? Waiting for what? Or was he just really hurting and just lashing out randomly?

morningsong said:

clairew1975 said:

I came across this interesting Twitter conversation from Van Jones regarding the awful rumours about Prince that we have seen splashed all over the media etc.

Black_Out_Abe: "@VanJones68 I don't understand why more of his friends aren't coming out in defense of him and crap being put out there..."

Van Jones' Response - @Black_Out_ABE /we are just waiting to see who is who -- who is loyal & who is fake. I will tell you: he predicted every phony, 99 percent.

I hope his loyal friends will speak out soon, Prince deserves so much better....

Source:

https://twitter.com/VanJones68/status/729081911218450434

You know this kind of went right over my head at the time. Too busy in my own grief I guess. But what's with the we are just waiting to see... stuff? Waiting for what? Or was he just really hurting and just lashing out randomly?

I wish Van would come out and say something more on this. He is obviously hurting still, he never wears any tie but a purple one anymore so there is something deep there. I wish someone would just be honest with us all. We are not interested in gossip. Only what took our man from us.

icequeen78 said:

I'll quicker believe Van was a friend of Prince than Sheila was engaged to him...I believed that she was sleeping with him and maybe truly loved him but I don't think she was his fiancee...something about her whole mode seems like she's aligning herself for a come up... or come back.... I haven't thought about her in years but now here she is .. everywhere.. did Prince ever allude to her being his fiancee or is it all her statements ..

where were U then? because Sheila E was with Prince since 1980 as friends

Just because U haven't thought about her doesn't mean we all haven't and know who she is and what she has been doing. Sheila E doesn't need a comeback...

laytonian said:

clairew1975 said:

He is an "American political activist, commentator, author and attorney. He is a cofounder of several nonprofit organizations"

source: wikipedia

Van Jones was part of the early Obama administration (Green Jobs advisor) and has been a CNN/MSNBC commentator for years. Well-respected. He's also a Democratic strategist (and considering the many who claim P was Republican...it's obvious P's politics were all over the place).

BUT...if you're familiar with P's conspiracy theories, it's likely he got them from Jones.
http://www.politico.com/story/2009/09/van-jones-resigns-amid-controversy-026797

Van was into conspiracy theories?

Sounds like what he is saying here. It sounds kinda petty:we are just waiting to see who is who -- who is loyal & who is fake. I will tell you: he predicted every phony, 99 percent.

icequeen78 said:

I'll quicker believe Van was a friend of Prince than Sheila was engaged to him...I believed that she was sleeping with him and maybe truly loved him but I don't think she was his fiancee...something about her whole mode seems like she's aligning herself for a come up... or come back.... I haven't thought about her in years but now here she is .. everywhere.. did Prince ever allude to her being his fiancee or is it all her statements ..

When she heard the news you saw where she was.

Where was the wives?

laytonian said:

clairew1975 said:

He is an "American political activist, commentator, author and attorney. He is a cofounder of several nonprofit organizations"

source: wikipedia

Van Jones was part of the early Obama administration (Green Jobs advisor) and has been a CNN/MSNBC commentator for years. Well-respected. He's also a Democratic strategist (and considering the many who claim P was Republican...it's obvious P's politics were all over the place).

BUT...if you're familiar with P's conspiracy theories, it's likely he got them from Jones.
http://www.politico.com/story/2009/09/van-jones-resigns-amid-controversy-026797

No, he got them from Dick Gregory, whose name he specifically mentioned in connection with said theories.

laytonian said:

clairew1975 said:

He is an "American political activist, commentator, author and attorney. He is a cofounder of several nonprofit organizations"

source: wikipedia

Van Jones was part of the early Obama administration (Green Jobs advisor) and has been a CNN/MSNBC commentator for years. Well-respected. He's also a Democratic strategist (and considering the many who claim P was Republican...it's obvious P's politics were all over the place).

BUT...if you're familiar with P's conspiracy theories, it's likely he got them from Jones.
http://www.politico.com/story/2009/09/van-jones-resigns-amid-controversy-026797

van jones sems like a really interesting guy

icequeen78 said:

I'll quicker believe Van was a friend of Prince than Sheila was engaged to him...I believed that she was sleeping with him and maybe truly loved him but I don't think she was his fiancee...something about her whole mode seems like she's aligning herself for a come up... or come back.... I haven't thought about her in years but now here she is .. everywhere.. did Prince ever allude to her being his fiancee or is it all her statements ..

Off topic why does everybody question Sheila and not other people who claimed to be engaged to him?

Prince put a ring on two women....Mayte and Manuela.

still makes no sense Kirky has said NOTHING.

Folks sure are quick to belittle Van Jones' friendship with Prince. Haters. smh