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Thread started 05/07/16 9:00pm

train23

I Hate U

Who is it about? Carmen? Sheila? someone owed him a million or more
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Reply #1 posted 05/07/16 9:18pm

TrivialPursuit

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I've always heard it was about Carmen Electra, and the fact that she slept with Tony M. (I mean, talk about a downgrade. LOL) She really fawned over her when they were together. Some would say obsessive.

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Reply #2 posted 05/07/16 9:40pm

DarlingKris

I heard it was about Carmen too

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Reply #3 posted 05/07/16 10:03pm

train23

it really sucks talking about him passed tense
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Reply #4 posted 05/07/16 10:08pm

train23

train23 said:

it really sucks talking about him passed tense

R.I.P.P.R.N.
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Reply #5 posted 05/07/16 10:41pm

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Last song i really loved by him.
"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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Reply #6 posted 05/07/16 10:45pm

RiotPaisley

It's a great song to blast when you're alone in the car and singing your heart out. A good song to remember certain exes with.

I also like 319 from TGE.
Surprise, surprise.
Another treat. Another trick.
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Reply #7 posted 05/07/16 10:55pm

firebird319

love that song so much. & those maxi remixes...MM. not a disappointing track on it
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Reply #8 posted 05/07/16 11:40pm

Superstition

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I love playing the extended remix for the 'dialogue'. My friends love it too.
[Edited 5/10/16 17:28pm]
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Reply #9 posted 05/08/16 12:35am

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It is definitely about Carmen Electra. The million point 8 or more refers to the amount of dough that Prince put toward Carmen's album(Fantastica Erotica) to make it happen and how he lost it when it flopped. Flopped harder than a fish out of water.

I am not too sure about this but i think "goodbye" from the crystal ball set is also about Carmen.
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Reply #10 posted 05/08/16 7:29am

SPYZFAN1

Damn! Million point 8??!!??.. Brings to mind that comment in the Rolling Stone interview with P's former music associate; "Stop doing A&R with your d#%k!"

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Reply #11 posted 05/08/16 8:41am

kookooman73

Apparently the video for 'Go Go Dancer' was a million $. That was one of the reasons Rosie Gaines quit the NPG. She was hugely talented & had a phenomenal vocal range & despite promises the material she recorded with P never saw the light of day. This money was from P personally as Warner refused to finance the Carmen Elektra project & with good reason. I rememember seeing her support on the D&P tour. Awful, awful, awful. No talent whatsoever. She was soon dropped!
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Reply #12 posted 05/08/16 8:54am

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tch666

SPYZFAN1 said:

Damn! Million point 8??!!??.. Brings to mind that comment in the Rolling Stone interview with P's former music associate; "Stop doing A&R with your d#%k!"



P's record company(i forget the name of it) never had a chance cause whenever his cock got hard, he would find some random ass girl and fuck her and think that she was the next aretha franklin. These girls were very pretty and very young and very sweet and very naive but usually had no talent. Couldnt sing or dance for shit and their first album was usually their only album and it would flop hard. Any subsequent tracks or albums usually ended up in the vault just collecting dust. P really should have put more money into artist development at first instead of just trying to churn out an album. I am sure that Carmen Electra would have won a grammy if the vocal training had been extensive and she waited forever to go on tour....maybe sometime around 1999 when her star was rising with baywatch. I adore P as a musician but he had a bad eye for proteges at one point and that cost him dearly.

The story of "I Hate U" is rather simple. Carmen found out about Mayte and Nona and confronted Prince about it. Prince was sleeping with all 3 but they didnt know about each other. Prince obviously denied what he was doing to Carmen. Carmen was not the village idiot that she has always seemed to be. Carmen decided to enact a revenge of sorts on Prince by fucking Tony M. Carmen also had a relationship with B Real of Cypress Hill for a while after the aforementioned and was even seen dancing with him at Glam Slam. I would be really surprised if Carmen has made a statement regarding P's passing cause there was a lot of bad blood there.
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Reply #13 posted 05/08/16 10:05am

dalboy2

http://www.justjared.com/...ces-death/

Carmen Electra Reacts to Her Mentor Prince’s Death

Carmen Electra Reacts to Her Mentor Prince’s Death
Carmen Electra is opening up about the death of Prince, someone she looked up to as a mentor.

“I was so shocked and heartbroken to hear about the loss of my mentor, Prince,” she said in a statement to Us Weekly. “The world has lost a truly incredible spirit and musical genius. What a blessing it is to be one of the chosen ones who had the chance to work so closely with him. He gave me my name, he believed in me, and he has inspired an entire generation. I will always love him. … 'Sometimes it Snows in April.'"

The late entertainer helped launch the 44-year-old actress' career over two decades ago after she auditioned to be in a girl group he was starting.

Prince did not put Carmen, then named Tara Leigh Patrick, into the group, but he signed her to Paisley Park Records and reinvented her name.

"I received a call from Prince saying I think you should be your own artist and not back up anyone else. I'm going to write you a song and if you like it, you can record it," she said in an interview with OWN two years ago. "The name of the song was 'Carmen on Top.' My name is Tara, so I was confused. I loved the song. I loved it, but he said, 'You're not a Tara. You're not Tara. You're Carmen.’”
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Reply #14 posted 05/08/16 10:21am

irresistiblebi
tch666

I guess the hostility must have passed.
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Reply #15 posted 05/08/16 10:42am

jcurley

train23 said:

Who is it about? Carmen? Sheila? someone owed him a million or more


It's about complete and utter genius. Prince I will weep forever. X
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Reply #16 posted 05/08/16 10:59am

SoulAlive

Around this time,wasn't Prince also involved with Troy Beyer? There were even rumors that she was pregnant with Prince's child.In any case,whatever happened with Carmen,it inspired Prince to write one of his best songs biggrin "I Hate U" is probably his finest single of the 90s.imo.

irresistiblebitch666 said:

The story of "I Hate U" is rather simple. Carmen found out about Mayte and Nona and confronted Prince about it. Prince was sleeping with all 3 but they didnt know about each other. Prince obviously denied what he was doing to Carmen. Carmen was not the village idiot that she has always seemed to be. Carmen decided to enact a revenge of sorts on Prince by fucking Tony M.
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Reply #17 posted 05/08/16 11:04am

thedance

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I Hate U... maybe Prince's best song in the 1990's... music

Brilliant,


I love everything about this song, especially the short guitar solo. guitar worship

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Reply #18 posted 05/08/16 11:04am

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Mayte is friends with all Troy, Carmen and Manuela. Weird!

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Reply #19 posted 05/08/16 11:20am

irresistiblebi
tch666

SoulAlive said:

Around this time,wasn't Prince also involved with Troy Beyer? There were even rumors that she was pregnant with Prince's child.In any case,whatever happened with Carmen,it inspired Prince to write one of his best songs biggrin "I Hate U" is probably his finest single of the 90s.imo.





irresistiblebitch666 said:


The story of "I Hate U" is rather simple. Carmen found out about Mayte and Nona and confronted Prince about it. Prince was sleeping with all 3 but they didnt know about each other. Prince obviously denied what he was doing to Carmen. Carmen was not the village idiot that she has always seemed to be. Carmen decided to enact a revenge of sorts on Prince by fucking Tony M.


Troy Beyer supposed had a miscarriage in mid '94/early '95 but it was never confirmed. Prince was involved with Mayte, Troy, Nona, Carmen, and a host of others all at the same time. I love the man but monogamy was never his strong suit. All of those women have thankfully matured from such a wacky ass fucking experience and are all friends.
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Reply #20 posted 05/08/16 11:49am

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Prince gets a lot of flak for the sexpot proteges and for "doing A&R with his dick," but if the music industry stopped doing A&R with its collective dick, pop music would grind to a halt. Step-by-step music industry mentality: a: find attractive teenager who can sing and/or dance; b: groom them with singing and/or dance lessons, name changes, and guidance toward a marketable persona; c: assemble a gigantic team of songwriters, producers, videographers, album artists, hair and make-up artists, marketing professionals, etc. to package this person for infiltrating as many markets as possible. Take Katy Perry for example. Real name: Katie Hudson. Gospel singer, releases failed album. Changes name, goes secular, has a huge hit with a sex-themed song, "I Kissed a Girl," released when internet videos of girls kissing at college parties were all the rage. Look at Justin Bieber: his last album used 25 producers and more song writers than I could bother to count. Prince wasn't totally exempt from this process - his superstardom was somewhat dependent on it - but he was exempt from the songwriters and producers and eventually he took total control (notably, his market share declined in those years). He gave many of his proteges careers - Carmen Elektra is a success story, despite the flop album - but a major difference is he exercised creative control, writing the songs and producing the music. Now Prince is an excellent songwriter with a handful of #1s, but the proteges weren't his top priority, and other corporate-groomed artists benefit from more extensive resources than one superstar artist alone can provide, even if that person is Prince. Would you rather have Prince or David Fincher directing your videos? You couldn't ask for a better producer, but would you trust Prince to design or select your album art? Would you rather have Warner Bros market and distribute your album, or an online release through the NPG Music Club you know Prince will get tired of promoting when your fifteen minutes are up? Prince took the same approach to his proteges as Warner would take, but ultimately he didn't have the same corporate resources, and a lot of them ended up singing his lesser material. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm thinking his most successful protege projects happened when he was still aligned with WB.

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Reply #21 posted 05/08/16 12:07pm

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SPYZFAN1 said:

Damn! Million point 8??!!??.. Brings to mind that comment in the Rolling Stone interview with P's former music associate; "Stop doing A&R with your d#%k!"

smile biggrin

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Reply #22 posted 05/10/16 6:53am

thedance

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Very nice pic above... Mayte & Carmen.... thanks for sharing.. biggrin

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Reply #23 posted 05/10/16 9:33am

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thedance said:

Very nice pic above... Mayte & Carmen.... thanks for sharing.. biggrin

And funky side note about Carmen. She was on MTV Cribs once. She had this nice duplex she lived in. White exterior, tall columns (romanesque) in the front. Then she says, "Let's go next door". She knocks on the neighbor's door, right next to her, and it's Apollonia & her husband! They'd been neighbors for ages. haha

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Reply #24 posted 05/10/16 3:27pm

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When someone asked Prince once (in an interview) about monogamy, his answer was simple....

''I'm only monogamous with God!!!''

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So true Prince, so true lol

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''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #25 posted 05/10/16 4:06pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

thedance said:

Very nice pic above... Mayte & Carmen.... thanks for sharing.. biggrin

And funky side note about Carmen. She was on MTV Cribs once. She had this nice duplex she lived in. White exterior, tall columns (romanesque) in the front. Then she says, "Let's go next door". She knocks on the neighbor's door, right next to her, and it's Apollonia & her husband! They'd been neighbors for ages. haha

wow really..? eek

if this is true, then its funny and so strange..... lol lol lol

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Reply #26 posted 05/10/16 4:14pm

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thedance said:

TrivialPursuit said:

And funky side note about Carmen. She was on MTV Cribs once. She had this nice duplex she lived in. White exterior, tall columns (romanesque) in the front. Then she says, "Let's go next door". She knocks on the neighbor's door, right next to her, and it's Apollonia & her husband! They'd been neighbors for ages. haha

wow really..? eek

if this is true, then its funny and so strange..... lol lol lol

Well, I didn't make it up. I mean, folks gotta live somewheres. razz

Go to the 3:13 mark.

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Reply #27 posted 05/10/16 4:48pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



thedance said:




TrivialPursuit said:




And funky side note about Carmen. She was on MTV Cribs once. She had this nice duplex she lived in. White exterior, tall columns (romanesque) in the front. Then she says, "Let's go next door". She knocks on the neighbor's door, right next to her, and it's Apollonia & her husband! They'd been neighbors for ages. haha



wow really..? eek

if this is true, then its funny and so strange..... lol lol lol




Well, I didn't make it up. I mean, folks gotta live somewheres. razz



Go to the 3:13 mark.



YES, I remember this vividly because @ the time I wasnt a full on Prince freak yet so i didnt realize carmen was a former Prince girl, and I remember seeing apollonia and thinking oo she's held up well!
"Where you are now is in a place that does not require time." - Rest In Power, PRINCE
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Reply #28 posted 05/11/16 1:26am

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ok thanks... but still very strange.. haha! smile

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Reply #29 posted 05/11/16 1:30am

SoulAlive

U gave your body 2 another in the name of fun

I hope U had some baby,if not,boo hoo

smile love the lyrics! And that courtroom segment is great,isn't it?!

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