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Thread started 05/06/16 3:42pm

willg

Batman - is it unique in his catalogue

Hi All,

Like everyone I was deeply saddenend at the loss of the great man, I've had and listened to, the Batman album since it came out but in terms of his other output only owned compilations. I guess my question is around Batman in terms of the songs, particularly 'the future' 'electric chair' 'vicki calling' 'lemon crush' - what other album or albums have similar stuff, if any? Or does it stand alone as a unique mixture of funk rock/pop songs etc?

I basically want the 'if you like it, you need to listen to this next' type answer...

Thanks

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Reply #1 posted 05/06/16 3:44pm

sro100

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Unique and not. Almost all Prince CDs are unique in some way.

But, if you like harder dark rock stuff: Gold Experience, Chaos and Disorder, Undertaker, Sign O The Times, etc.

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Reply #2 posted 05/06/16 3:52pm

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"Chaos and Disorder" is similar to songs like Electric Chair. "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" actually reminds me of the Batman material in some ways and the title track was originally intended for possible inclusion in the soundtrack before it was replaced (and is referenced in songs from the era).

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Reply #3 posted 05/06/16 4:10pm

willg

Thanks both, I definitely think 'electric chair' is a standout so anything in that vein I'll be checking out.

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Reply #4 posted 05/07/16 8:30am

willg

Ok, so according to this https://en.wikipedia.org/..._Fantastic

Rave unto and Rave Un2 are two different projects?

I guess the one from 88-89 is the one that is similar to Batman, that being the case how to hear it if this is even possible?

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Reply #5 posted 05/07/16 8:33am

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Have grown to love the batman record in the past 18months.. If i had to pick a weak track that I'm most likely to skip, it would be Vicki Waiting. But I still quite like that track.

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Reply #6 posted 05/07/16 8:45am

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It's my least favorite 1980s album

Yet I recognized it as a soundtrack album for a movie that was not his.

There are some great songs on there

The Future is my all time favorite (I have a suspicion that it was made around the same time as the Line) they both have a strongly similar feel and sound.

I think Sheila E when talking about the period before she left, she said the music had no more melody as before. And that helped me to understand what I felt was missing in what I was hearing(or should I say 'not hearing') when I listen to a lot of 1989 outtakes including some from her unreleased 4th album, that is it. It also gave the music a darker feel to it. Which for the Batman album works. As in the case of the Future. But it is interesting that even the 'happier' music had the same feel.

It's unique for sure that light.

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Reply #7 posted 05/07/16 9:00am

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I think if there's an album, Batman soundtrack in your case, that you love the sound of, try going to the left or right of that album in Prince's catalog. His sound was always evolving, but within a 2 year period you can find a lot of similarities. Lovesexy has some of the same feel as many songs on Batman (i.e. the rhythm guitar in Batdance has a similar sound as the rhythm guitar in Alphabet St, Damce On has similarities to Electric Chair). Same thing could be said of 1999 > Purple Rain. If you liked the sound of one there's really no way to not find something to enjoy about the other.
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Reply #8 posted 05/07/16 9:14am

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The Batman album (a favorite of mine) is pretty unique...

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IMO Albums with some similarities: The Black Album, The Gold Experience, Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic, Chaos & Disorder, Lovesexy

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Reply #9 posted 05/07/16 9:41am

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willg said:

Ok, so according to this https://en.wikipedia.org/..._Fantastic

Rave unto and Rave Un2 are two different projects?

I guess the one from 88-89 is the one that is similar to Batman, that being the case how to hear it if this is even possible?

No, I was referring to the released Rave Un2 album from 1999. The title track is itself from that original 89 era. The rest of the tracks are newish but they fit very well in that pop/rock space occupied by Batman, imo.

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Reply #10 posted 05/07/16 11:18am

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jodznsez said:

Have grown to love the batman record in the past 18months.. If i had to pick a weak track that I'm most likely to skip, it would be Vicki Waiting. But I still quite like that track.

Funny, that´s my favourite song on it smile Beside The Future maybe.

I think Batman has a very unique sound you won´t find on other releases. I assume he started to use different equipment since it sounds pretty 90s. For me especially the changed drum sound makes it totally different from what he did before. It really is ´darker´, as OldFriends4Sale mentioned.

So in terms of "darker" you could check out Grafitti Bridge, because it has these moments. "New Power Generation", "We can Funk", "Thieves in the Temple" or even "Joy in Repetition" come to mind. And you should check some 12"-Versions of those days...like the "Gett Off"-Houstyle-Mix, "The Future" Remix, the 9min "Glam Slam" Remix. Or maaayyybeeeee some of those long funky tracks on 1999. At least to me they can sound kind of ´dark´. Try out "Let´s pretend we´re married", "Automatic" or "All the Critics love u in New York". Not the same as Batman, but kind of related.

Btw the chorus of ´Lemon Crush´ always reminds me of ´Violet the Organ Grinder´. Not a great song, but I love its chorus.

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Reply #11 posted 05/07/16 11:24am

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Have always loved this album. I still remember cycling to the wrecka stow in the rain for about an hour to get it the day it came out.
Love esp. The Future... Of which there is a great remix available by DJ Mark Moore...Electric Chair.... Great performance of it and also love Vicki Waiting
... The last refrain of " this is where she wants to be..." and the musical outro is bliss....
Have fun discovering his music ... How great it would be for us all to hear it for the first time again 😎
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Reply #12 posted 05/07/16 1:17pm

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Personally I'd consider Sign o the Times and Black Album to be the most similar sounding. I think some of those Batman tracks may have even started out as Camille tracks.

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Reply #13 posted 05/08/16 6:57am

willg

What are the chances of deluxe reissues of his 80s output with outtakes/alternate versions

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Reply #14 posted 05/08/16 8:36am

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Sonically, Graffiti Bridge is pretty similar. It came out the following year.

Deluxe reissues: we've essentially been clamouring for these since the 90s. I'm sure WB will find a way now, but it could take a while, with the estate currently in flux.

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Reply #15 posted 05/08/16 9:10am

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Guys,

Purple underground on the Batman soundtrack 25th anniversary



Have you heard the Luca Cazal and James What remix of 'The Future' nice take on the track.

https://m.soundcloud.com/...james-what
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Reply #16 posted 05/08/16 6:00pm

214

The Black album is quite alike, my favorite is The Future, such a great song, i like EC and Batdance. The future is it played durin the movie?

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Reply #17 posted 05/08/16 6:10pm

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One of my fave albums.

214, If I remember right, The Future is played pretty close to the start; during Bruce Waynes party just before Vicki Vale and Knox walk into that armoury room and Bruce introduces himself.

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Reply #18 posted 05/08/16 8:06pm

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"Space" has a similar trippy feel that "The Future" has.

"Dig U Better Dead" has a similar jerky/funky feel of "Electric Chair."

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Reply #19 posted 05/08/16 9:42pm

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Batman is tonally similar to the Black Album. Sardonic, comical, abrasive. Come is similar in style. It's grim, simple and puts a focus on sampling and simplicity. Other tracks you should check out are "Rebirth of the Flesh," "Shockadelica," "Scarlet Pussy," "319," "Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic," "Extra Loveable (1982 version)" and "La La La He He He."

Non-album tracks from the Batman era are "Sex," "Feel U Up," "200 Balloons," "Love U in Me," "We Got the Power" and "Dance with the Devil."

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Reply #20 posted 05/09/16 7:25am

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TheSacrificeOfVictor said:

214, If I remember right, The Future is played pretty close to the start; during Bruce Waynes party just before Vicki Vale and Knox walk into that armoury room and Bruce introduces himself.


Actually, the tracks played at the party are Vicki Waiting and Electric Chair. But you can (barely) hear The Future in the movie - it's when little Bruce and his parents are walking through the crowded street at the beginning.

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Reply #21 posted 05/09/16 8:35am

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"319" has a similar feel of "Electric Chair." And the vocal line has an extremely similar cadence. You could almost sing parts of "Electric Chair" over the music of "319."

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Reply #22 posted 05/09/16 8:47am

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Batdance: The Batmix, I love the way Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic is incorporated into this wonderful remix from back then ('89)... music

I love the whole Batman album, maybe I'm skipping Arms Of Orion = the rest is wonderful:

Partyman and Scandalous extended mixes are excellent as well. heart

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