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Reply #30 posted 05/03/16 4:57pm

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I'll be picking up the black album, Lovesexy and D&P. Already have the rest.
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Reply #31 posted 05/03/16 5:20pm

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I WILL BUY THEM ALL... THANK YOU WARNER!!! boogie





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[Edited 5/3/16 17:21pm]

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Reply #32 posted 05/03/16 5:41pm

djThunderfunk

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aiden said:

This was all planned before 21st April... I had already pre-ordered For You and Prince and they were expected to be followed by the rest once a Month.. Hoping this carries on in 2017 for hits 1 & 2, Come & gold experience... Which all go for crazy prices for first pressing. For You sounds incredible and packaging is beautiful so these will be worth picking up... NPG records written on spine I'm expecting other records not previously available on vinyl to come out too like the vault & emancipation [Edited 5/3/16 16:53pm]

One could hope, especially C&D & TVOFFS since they were WB releases.

Glad to see there is an NPG credit to distinguish releases. I don't remember, was the NPG credit on the 180gm releases a few years ago?

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Reply #33 posted 05/03/16 6:45pm

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This is a serious question: what exactly is the benefit of vinyl? They didn't sound that great as child when I think back on it. Is it really sound quality or a nostalgic thing to buy them these days?

You are correct, when CD's came out in the late 80's we marveled at how much better they sounded than our records and tapes. They seriously did for the level of detail.

We couldn't afford a $1000+ record player and soundsystem like Makintosh... but what people don't say is that if you play a CD through a $1000 player and a great sound system, it sounds great too.

there's a lot of innacuracy in how a vinyl record reproduces sound, but that tone is akin to how people talk about liking film more than diigtal HD video.

But in fact digital HD video has surpassed film in terms of the information it can store, and you can artificially make it look like film with the pleaasant "warm" defect visual artifacts of film, like grain, and characteristic color tone. (I used to shoot with film, both motion and stills.)

Same with digital recordings.

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Reply #34 posted 05/03/16 7:05pm

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thedance said:

I WILL BUY THEM ALL... THANK YOU WARNER!!! boogie





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[Edited 5/3/16 17:21pm]

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Reply #35 posted 05/03/16 8:56pm

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oh come on now... why stop at Love Symbol???

Issue The Vault, Chaos & Disorder too! us collectors already have this stuff!

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Reply #36 posted 05/03/16 9:07pm

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I got originals of everything up to Diamonds & Pearls. The Black Album is definitely tempting, though.

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Reply #37 posted 05/03/16 9:12pm

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ufoclub said:



FlexiTime said:


This is a serious question: what exactly is the benefit of vinyl? They didn't sound that great as child when I think back on it. Is it really sound quality or a nostalgic thing to buy them these days?


You are correct, when CD's came out in the late 80's we marveled at how much better they sounded than our records and tapes. They seriously did for the level of detail.



We couldn't afford a $1000+ record player and soundsystem like Makintosh... but what people don't say is that if you play a CD through a $1000 player and a great sound system, it sounds great too.



there's a lot of innacuracy in how a vinyl record reproduces sound, but that tone is akin to how people talk about liking film more than diigtal HD video.



But in fact digital HD video has surpassed film in terms of the information it can store, and you can artificially make it look like film with the pleaasant "warm" defect visual artifacts of film, like grain, and characteristic color tone. (I used to shoot with film, both motion and stills.)



Same with digital recordings.


They're still mastering digital music for use in cars and laptops. They're supposed to sound "flat", to avoid competition from other sound sources, as well as hearing more details with a low gain.
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Reply #38 posted 05/04/16 4:37am

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Reply #39 posted 05/04/16 5:13am

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Seems these will be the only thing worth buying, having read: http://www.theonion.com/a...0-ho-52853

http://www.goldiesparade.co.uk/ - Prince discography, tour history, news and more.
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Reply #40 posted 05/04/16 5:18am

ilo

FlexiTime said:

This is a serious question: what exactly is the benefit of vinyl? They didn't sound that great as child when I think back on it.

Is it really sound quality or a nostalgic thing to buy them these days?


You can't roll a joint on an mp3.
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Reply #41 posted 05/04/16 5:19am

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One can only hope the vinyls will be made out of the original analog masters.
We need the Bernie Grundman's touch.

I fear that they're going to use the shitty, flat, dull masters of the CDs.

In Skipper's case, going digital was a catastrophy. And then D&P came, and along came the Loudness Wars.

See post #23 for more details : http://prince.org/msg/7/424240

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Reply #42 posted 05/04/16 5:44am

hw3004

peppeken said:

Vultures

...but others on here have been criticising for years the lack of availability of Prince's back catalogue! I think WB are less deserving of scorn than some of the increased pricing in the second hand market in recent weeks, but, it's the world we created.

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Reply #43 posted 05/04/16 5:51am

hw3004

bonatoc said:

One can only hope the vinyls will be made out of the original analog masters.
We need the Bernie Grundman's touch.

I fear that they're going to use the shitty, flat, dull masters of the CDs.

In Skipper's case, going digital was a catastrophy. And then D&P came, and along came the Loudness Wars.

See post #23 for more details : http://prince.org/msg/7/424240

I can't imagine they'll use CD masters for the albums that were originally mastered for vinyl - that would be insane!

Having said that I would normally advocate picking up a good second hand copy over a remaster.

Has anyone actually compared the For You re-issue to an original pressing yet? Would be interested to hear their thoughts?

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Reply #44 posted 05/04/16 5:51am

darkroman

Surely all the fans have those already and they are still readily available.

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No point really buying these as you may as well buy the CH.

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Most of mine are still sealed so I don't know what these will offer.

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Oh well.

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Reply #45 posted 05/04/16 5:52am

djThunderfunk

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darkroman said:

Surely all the fans have those already and they are still readily available.

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No point really buying these as you may as well buy the CH.

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Most of mine are still sealed so I don't know what these will offer.

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Oh well.

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neutral


How do you listen to sealed records?

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Reply #46 posted 05/04/16 5:53am

Angelsoncrack

I'll probably only buy Diamonds and Pearls and Symbol as those are the albums I don't have on vinyl cus when they were released vinyl was dying out to CDs.

Oh and possibly the Black Album too because to get a non boot version of that is rather difficult and expensive.

Other than that I have most already.

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Reply #47 posted 05/04/16 6:41am

Rimshottbob

Yes... I posetd this yesterday...

I'm for this in general, but I wish they'd be more informative/transparent about what exactly they're releasing... they should be clearly stating whether these are remastered or not, and if so, by whom...

I bought the new release of For You on vinyl the other day. I can't remember what the CD sounded like as I sold it years ago... but I have a nice original vinyl copy of the album. I have ripped both and today did an A-B comparison and I couldn't tell the difference!

My ears might not be the best in the world, but I would think if it had actually been remastered and not re-pressed, I would be able to notice something.... I couldn't.

Not saying it's not remastered, just saying I couldn't tell the difference between the new one and the original.

In terms of the sleeve, it's not brilliantly reproduced, the front image being too dark and dingy compared to the original.... and on the spine, at the bottom it reads Warner/NPG, which is clearly the result of the deal that our man did with them a couple of years back...

[Edited 5/3/16 14:03pm]


hw3004 said:

bonatoc said:

One can only hope the vinyls will be made out of the original analog masters.
We need the Bernie Grundman's touch.

I fear that they're going to use the shitty, flat, dull masters of the CDs.

In Skipper's case, going digital was a catastrophy. And then D&P came, and along came the Loudness Wars.

See post #23 for more details : http://prince.org/msg/7/424240

I can't imagine they'll use CD masters for the albums that were originally mastered for vinyl - that would be insane!

Having said that I would normally advocate picking up a good second hand copy over a remaster.

Has anyone actually compared the For You re-issue to an original pressing yet? Would be interested to hear their thoughts?

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Reply #48 posted 05/04/16 6:41am

thedance

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On Facebook, the 1994 album "Come" is scheduled for a december release.. question

Together with the Love Symbol prince 92 album...


This, could this be true?? (About the Come album on vinyl?)

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Reply #49 posted 05/04/16 7:27am

hw3004

Rimshottbob said:

Yes... I posetd this yesterday...

I'm for this in general, but I wish they'd be more informative/transparent about what exactly they're releasing... they should be clearly stating whether these are remastered or not, and if so, by whom...

I bought the new release of For You on vinyl the other day. I can't remember what the CD sounded like as I sold it years ago... but I have a nice original vinyl copy of the album. I have ripped both and today did an A-B comparison and I couldn't tell the difference!

My ears might not be the best in the world, but I would think if it had actually been remastered and not re-pressed, I would be able to notice something.... I couldn't.

Not saying it's not remastered, just saying I couldn't tell the difference between the new one and the original.

In terms of the sleeve, it's not brilliantly reproduced, the front image being too dark and dingy compared to the original.... and on the spine, at the bottom it reads Warner/NPG, which is clearly the result of the deal that our man did with them a couple of years back...

[Edited 5/3/16 14:03pm]


hw3004 said:

I can't imagine they'll use CD masters for the albums that were originally mastered for vinyl - that would be insane!

Having said that I would normally advocate picking up a good second hand copy over a remaster.

Has anyone actually compared the For You re-issue to an original pressing yet? Would be interested to hear their thoughts?

Thanks for the info...

In a way, I'm glad to hear this! I think up to Lovesexy, maybe Batman or GB, I'd prefer a re-pressing as opposed to a re-master. I think by D&P the mastering was geared towards CD and I'd guess the vinyl edition of this and prince would probably benefit from a sympathetic remaster on vinyl.

Completely agree about the transparency point you made. Look at how the Beatles re-masters project was dealt with - that's the level of respect this work should be getting...

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Reply #50 posted 05/04/16 7:52am

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Can anyone tell me which are the albums that have posters inside? Also, will these new re-issues include the posters ?

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Reply #51 posted 05/04/16 8:08am

Gustavm

Where did you pre-order these albums?

aiden said:

This was all planned before 21st April... I had already pre-ordered For You and Prince and they were expected to be followed by the rest once a Month.. Hoping this carries on in 2017 for hits 1 & 2, Come & gold experience... Which all go for crazy prices for first pressing. For You sounds incredible and packaging is beautiful so these will be worth picking up... NPG records written on spine I'm expecting other records not previously available on vinyl to come out too like the vault & emancipation [Edited 5/3/16 16:53pm]

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Reply #52 posted 05/04/16 8:15am

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DoItAllNight4U said:

Can anyone tell me which are the albums that have posters inside? Also, will these new re-issues include the posters ?


Controversy & Purple Rain. The 180gm reissues did have reissues of the posters.

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Reply #53 posted 05/04/16 8:15am

namepeace

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peppeken said:
Vultures
My thoughts exactly. I want the vinyls as much as the next person but did they have to sweep down so soon? sad


These had been in the works for two years. For You was reissued the week he died, but had been announced for months.

I hear what you all are saying, but this is welcome albeit bittersweet news for Prince fans and collectors, and will help expose a generation of younger listeners, who are increasingly turning to vinyl, to a highly productive and creative era of his career . . . especially at a time when his music is harder to legally stream or buy online.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #54 posted 05/04/16 8:18am

namepeace

hw3004 said:

Thanks for the info...

In a way, I'm glad to hear this! I think up to Lovesexy, maybe Batman or GB, I'd prefer a re-pressing as opposed to a re-master. I think by D&P the mastering was geared towards CD and I'd guess the vinyl edition of this and prince would probably benefit from a sympathetic remaster on vinyl.

Completely agree about the transparency point you made. Look at how the Beatles re-masters project was dealt with - that's the level of respect this work should be getting...


Great points, yet I think the 1985-87 albums could use a remastering, especially SOTT.

I think the tragedy of his death will compel Warners to give the project the respect it requires.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #55 posted 05/04/16 8:48am

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I'm holding out for 8-tracks of For You, Prince, and Dirty Mind.

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Reply #56 posted 05/04/16 10:41am

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bonatoc said:

One can only hope the vinyls will be made out of the original analog masters.
We need the Bernie Grundman's touch.

I fear that they're going to use the shitty, flat, dull masters of the CDs.

In Skipper's case, going digital was a catastrophy. And then D&P came, and along came the Loudness Wars.

See post #23 for more details : http://prince.org/msg/7/424240

Actually, the supposed reason the CD's were dull up until 1989 or 1990 was because they were using the vinyl masters to make the CDs. We're guessing that there were no masters for the CDs of Prince'salbums before that. And a seperate master is required because....

Vinyl masters have to be sort of mixed with a demphasis on certain bass frequences and dynamic range in order to physically not make the needle jump, and to fight the certain frequency bias that the mechanics of vinyl tech emphasizes. The masters are made to compensate, and will sound correct on vinyl, but will sound inccorrect if transferred to the super accurate sound of a CD.

This is a good article: http://www.recordingmag.c...l/114.html

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Reply #57 posted 05/04/16 11:29am

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Does anyone know if these reissues are being transferred from the original analog 2 track reel-to-reel masters?

If WB is making these reissues from a digital master, it is a profound waste of time & a sad cash grab by them.
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Reply #58 posted 05/04/16 10:50pm

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electrodyne said:

Does anyone know if these reissues are being transferred from the original analog 2 track reel-to-reel masters? If WB is making these reissues from a digital master, it is a profound waste of time & a sad cash grab by them.


It happens. It wouldn't surprise me.

Ten years ago we saw vinyls popping everywhere, "Harvest", "Rubber Soul", and they want me to believe that 1st generation acetates were used?


Maybe the analog 2-track masters are in The Vault.

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Reply #59 posted 05/05/16 2:45am

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I'll be picking up the black album, Lovesexy and D&P. Already have the rest.

I have just spent the last 2 years picking up 2nd hand copies and new ones of dirty mind, pr, controversy,1999. Just missing the first 2 releases which I am now picking new with the latest reissue. It took me a long time to track down parade and symbol at very reasonable prices. I might buy some again if they are 180 gm pressings.

I will definitely buy the black album and D&p as these are the only warners albums I am missing. I only have lotusflower post warners. I am really hoping these will come out. I'll be first in the queue to buy the rainbow children.
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