show and then an hour latter damn near be dead if reports are to believed...Listening to the show got me fucked up all over again

I've really been curious about all this. Hoping to hear from people who were actually at the show or in his presence. NONE of this is lining up. I mean, if he did OD, as they say, wouldn't people have noticed how out of it he was at the show? So many weird stories out, trying not to pay attention to that, however, the facts that are out, are very confusing as well. Everyone is reporting his performance was on point. Did you get that feeling?

not passing the smell test..Even oif we went withthe cancer theory, my dad died of cancer,,a week prior to his death, he couldbt get out of bed let alone do two concerts in aone night

Suzanne said:

I've really been curious about all this. Hoping to hear from people who were actually at the show or in his presence. NONE of this is lining up. I mean, if he did OD, as they say, wouldn't people have noticed how out of it he was at the show? So many weird stories out, trying not to pay attention to that, however, the facts that are out, are very confusing as well. Everyone is reporting his performance was on point. Did you get that feeling?

Whatever happened to him clearly did not happen until after the show :/

PurpleMusic07 said:

Suzanne said:

I've really been curious about all this. Hoping to hear from people who were actually at the show or in his presence. NONE of this is lining up. I mean, if he did OD, as they say, wouldn't people have noticed how out of it he was at the show? So many weird stories out, trying not to pay attention to that, however, the facts that are out, are very confusing as well. Everyone is reporting his performance was on point. Did you get that feeling?

Whatever happened to him clearly did not happen until after the show :/

i understand however, it was an hour after the show..crazyyy and then tp be dead in less than a week

Suzanne said:

I've really been curious about all this. Hoping to hear from people who were actually at the show or in his presence. NONE of this is lining up. I mean, if he did OD, as they say, wouldn't people have noticed how out of it he was at the show? So many weird stories out, trying not to pay attention to that, however, the facts that are out, are very confusing as well. Everyone is reporting his performance was on point. Did you get that feeling?

I remember the morning after the show, one reviewer critiqued that they could hear congestion in his voice and that it was obvious that he was still recovering from the flu. This really bothered me at the time, because I didn't hear any congestion at all. His voice sounded astoundingly good - though, keep in mind that this was the first Prince concert I ever saw, so I didn't have an earlier performance to compare it to.

Even more astouding is how FAST he was. Audio recordings don't show how fast he ran around the stage, doing laps around the piano between songs.

Even after the show was done - he moved about 35ft from the stage door to a car faster than I've ever seen someone move without running. He seemed to be in great shape.

Also, I got a chance to hear the radio interview with Demaris where she called Prince and woke him up. He mentioned that he was getting some rest and recovering from a cold - and this was during the Australia shows.

lwr001 said:

not passing the smell test..Even oif we went withthe cancer theory, my dad died of cancer,,a week prior to his death, he couldbt get out of bed let alone do two concerts in aone night

So sorry for your loss. My dad has cancer now ;( He's beaten 2 of the 3 types....stupid lung cancer is hangin in there. My ex- mother in law was doing jazzercise up until a week before she died. The pain for her, came on suddenly. Everyone is different. Also depends on the type and the medicaiton you get. IDK... nothing adds up. If he did have cancer, it doesnt add up that he'd leave gifts for fans, but nothing written out for his vault? or any contingency plans... I just feel like there are a few pieces to this puzzle mising, or worse, stolen.

I don't know how that's confusing. Pain and symptoms

will often hit performers after a performance due to factors

of fatigue and energy spent. If there is a pain killer habit,

such meds would be taken after taxing performances also in

order to assist a come-down. I'm no medical expert but

am somewhat informed.

Yes, but going solely on reports it was a percocet od - narcan was used to counteract those effects - your body has to have a certain level of the drub in it, in order for it to work, If it was only one hour, he'd have to down half a bottle on the plane. Which leads me to think, he'd been taking them to get through the show.... and he was functioning???? I just dont understand how he performed so well and no one in his inner circle noticed anything off about him. I had been on percocet due to an injury, I became wired and very energetic. People around me knew something was up! they knew when I'd taken it. You can't not know - especially with the timeline and the amount that would have to be ingested. I have a feeling there is something underneath all this stuff.

lwr001 said:

PurpleMusic07 said:

Whatever happened to him clearly did not happen until after the show :/

i understand however, it was an hour after the show..crazyyy and then tp be dead in less than a week

yea I guess.

gerardv said:

I don't know how that's confusing. Pain and symptoms

will often hit performers after a performance due to factors

of fatigue and energy spent. If there is a pain killer habit,

such meds would be taken after taxing performances also in

order to assist a come-down. I'm no medical expert but

am somewhat informed.

Suzanne said:

Yes, but going solely on reports it was a percocet od - narcan was used to counteract those effects - your body has to have a certain level of the drub in it, in order for it to work, If it was only one hour, he'd have to down half a bottle on the plane. Which leads me to think, he'd been taking them to get through the show.... and he was functioning???? I just dont understand how he performed so well and no one in his inner circle noticed anything off about him. I had been on percocet due to an injury, I became wired and very energetic. People around me knew something was up! they knew when I'd taken it. You can't not know - especially with the timeline and the amount that would have to be ingested. I have a feeling there is something underneath all this stuff.

lwr001 said:

i understand however, it was an hour after the show..crazyyy and then tp be dead in less than a week

my piont,,,as a veteran , i've seen many of folks in a perc nod etc,,,high energy is usually not an effect of perc use

lwr001 said:

Suzanne said:

Yes, but going solely on reports it was a percocet od - narcan was used to counteract those effects - your body has to have a certain level of the drub in it, in order for it to work, If it was only one hour, he'd have to down half a bottle on the plane. Which leads me to think, he'd been taking them to get through the show.... and he was functioning???? I just dont understand how he performed so well and no one in his inner circle noticed anything off about him. I had been on percocet due to an injury, I became wired and very energetic. People around me knew something was up! they knew when I'd taken it. You can't not know - especially with the timeline and the amount that would have to be ingested. I have a feeling there is something underneath all this stuff.

my piont,,,as a veteran , i've seen many of folks in a perc nod etc,,,high energy is usually not an effect of perc use

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I agree, it's not usually a "high energy" effect. I had to take percocet's recently due to a blood clot. It made me very tired, lethargic, no energy at all. It helped with the pain, but not something I would want to take on a regular basis. It also dulled my brain, made thinking about things or coherency a problem.

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However, it is recommended the pills be swallowed whole because if they are chewed they can release the opoids into your system too quickly which can cause respiratory depression, apnea, respiratory arrest, circulatory depression, hypotension, shock, and death.

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I've been wondering about this. If Prince were prescribed percocets and didn't realize that he would need to swallow the pills whole due to the above, and since his chef stated that he had been have some throat issues recently, it's possible that he could have chewed the pills to make them easier to swallow because of his throat. It would not indicate that he was abusing the drug in any way, nor that he was addicted, but rather lack of information given to him about how to take the pills and the risk of chewing the pills vs. swallowing.

ya, it's all confusing, none of it makes much sense. It doesn't make sense that if he did have cancer, his doctor wouldn't be involved in at least confirming it by now. If he od'd, you'd think that would scare him enough not to od a few days later, if he already knew he was going to die, why not try to prolong his death by having assistance? Anywhere you look, it doesn't add up. Even the most logical answer, that he was a hardcore addict doesn't make sense because any hardcore addict in the public eye, the mask is going to slip and it's gonna show. none of it makes sense. But I guess we're all just being impatient.

josephsrollins said:

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Also, I got a chance to hear the radio interview with Demaris where she called Prince and woke him up. He mentioned that he was getting some rest and recovering from a cold - and this was during the Australia shows.

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Not related to the main topic of conversation, but just to clarify - that Damaris 'wake up' call was from the time of Australian dates he performed back in 2012 (29th May 2012 to be exact), and not the recent 'Piano & A Microphone' tour.

geetee71 said:

josephsrollins said:

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Also, I got a chance to hear the radio interview with Demaris where she called Prince and woke him up. He mentioned that he was getting some rest and recovering from a cold - and this was during the Australia shows.

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Not related to the main topic of conversation, but just to clarify - that Damaris 'wake up' call was from the time of Australian dates he performed back in 2012 (29th May 2012 to be exact), and not the recent 'Piano & A Microphone' tour.

Oh, okay! I had seen it refrenced elsewhere as being recent. Thanks for the clarification.

prittypriss said:

lwr001 said:

my piont,,,as a veteran , i've seen many of folks in a perc nod etc,,,high energy is usually not an effect of perc use

.

I agree, it's not usually a "high energy" effect. I had to take percocet's recently due to a blood clot. It made me very tired, lethargic, no energy at all. It helped with the pain, but not something I would want to take on a regular basis. It also dulled my brain, made thinking about things or coherency a problem.

.

However, it is recommended the pills be swallowed whole because if they are chewed they can release the opoids into your system too quickly which can cause respiratory depression, apnea, respiratory arrest, circulatory depression, hypotension, shock, and death.

.

I've been wondering about this. If Prince were prescribed percocets and didn't realize that he would need to swallow the pills whole due to the above, and since his chef stated that he had been have some throat issues recently, it's possible that he could have chewed the pills to make them easier to swallow because of his throat. It would not indicate that he was abusing the drug in any way, nor that he was addicted, but rather lack of information given to him about how to take the pills and the risk of chewing the pills vs. swallowing.

it is my understanding that the pharma companies addressed the time release issue of peoeple snortinig or chewing the pills for greater effect; basicallty have taken that option away

lwr001 said:

prittypriss said:

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I agree, it's not usually a "high energy" effect. I had to take percocet's recently due to a blood clot. It made me very tired, lethargic, no energy at all. It helped with the pain, but not something I would want to take on a regular basis. It also dulled my brain, made thinking about things or coherency a problem.

.

However, it is recommended the pills be swallowed whole because if they are chewed they can release the opoids into your system too quickly which can cause respiratory depression, apnea, respiratory arrest, circulatory depression, hypotension, shock, and death.

.

I've been wondering about this. If Prince were prescribed percocets and didn't realize that he would need to swallow the pills whole due to the above, and since his chef stated that he had been have some throat issues recently, it's possible that he could have chewed the pills to make them easier to swallow because of his throat. It would not indicate that he was abusing the drug in any way, nor that he was addicted, but rather lack of information given to him about how to take the pills and the risk of chewing the pills vs. swallowing.

it is my understanding that the pharma companies addressed the time release issue of peoeple snortinig or chewing the pills for greater effect; basicallty have taken that option away

.

I'm sorry. What do you mean "have taken that option away"?

prittypriss said:

lwr001 said:

it is my understanding that the pharma companies addressed the time release issue of peoeple snortinig or chewing the pills for greater effect; basicallty have taken that option away

.

I'm sorry. What do you mean "have taken that option away"?

they put some sort of time release additive to percs or a coating; coudl be wrong

lwr001 said:

show and then an hour latter damn near be dead if reports are to believed...Listening to the show got me fucked up all over again

My father died suddenly on a cruise ship. We talked to him as they were leaving port. He was having a great time. He went to dinner, walked around the ship, and went to bed fine. He died in his sleep.

Prince's passing feels the same. Just so quick and unthinkable. That's how fragile it all is.

lwr001 said:

lwr001 said:

Suzanne said:

I've really been curious about all this. Hoping to hear from people who were actually at the show or in his presence. NONE of this is lining up. I mean, if he did OD, as they say, wouldn't people have noticed how out of it he was at the show? So many weird stories out, trying not to pay attention to that, however, the facts that are out, are very confusing as well. Everyone is reporting his performance was on point. Did you get that feeling?

I was at the Atlanta show. There was a 7pm and a 10pm. I was at the 10pm. If you've heard any audio, you already know he sounded AMAZING! Nothing was suspect, nothing was off (at least to me). There were no cryptic speeches or messages.

It was the piano show, so I didn't expect anything high energy. During Baby I'm a Star, he did jump up and run around in a cirlce behind the piano while pumping his arms....like the music got to him, then quickly sat back down. He did that maybe 1 or 2 more times during other songs. I need to listen to the audio to line it up with my memory. Occasionally he'd stand up from the piano bench while playing. His voice was never off...behavior never strange. He did like 3 or 4 encores...again, I need to listen to it to refresh my memory. The last time he got up after doing Purple Rain/Beautiful Ones medley (I heard some from the first show say he didn't sing PR), he grabbed his jacket, raised his cane in the air and said goodnight/thank you Atlanta. I figured he wasn't coming back, but most ppl, including me waited til the house lights came up just in case.

When I heard about the emergency landing, I felt bad becasue the crowd the night before kept calling him back to the stage. I was like, he was proabaly dog tired, plus it was the 2nd show. But kept giving us what we wanted...he gave all.

In the days since he's been gone, I just wish P would have taken some rest. Even when the original April 7th show was postponed, I was prepared to hold on to my ticket for a good month or so because I thought he was gonna chill for a bit. But the show was scheduled for just a week later.

Suzanne said:

I've really been curious about all this. Hoping to hear from people who were actually at the show or in his presence. NONE of this is lining up. I mean, if he did OD, as they say, wouldn't people have noticed how out of it he was at the show? So many weird stories out, trying not to pay attention to that, however, the facts that are out, are very confusing as well. Everyone is reporting his performance was on point. Did you get that feeling?

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I was at both shows and in 4th row and 5th row of orchestra pit..very close He seemed fine at both shows...the only thing I thought at the time was that he looked extra thin and at the very end of the second show, he looked a bit fatigued when he walked off. I can't describe but I had that thought at the time...just the way he walked, looked like he was tired.

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But he seemed full of energy during the shows..his voice was passionate, he was walking around the stage. he was standing up sometimes playing the piano and everything seemed 100% fine at the time.

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not so incredible. it would just take a pill or two more than he was used to, or a drink or two with his usual ammount, and then he feesl good, could take one more, right after the show, and he goes under on the plane. the timing works out. we've heard he wasn't eating much.

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how good he sounds, to me, is the biggest clue that it wasn't a flu.

[Edited 5/3/16 12:58pm]

I am thinking that he didn't feel well (tired and/or in pain) and had to take something to get "up" for the show. Painkillers or steroid shot or vitamin E or whatever..or a combination. He did what he felt he had to in order to give ATL an incredible performance (which he did) and then he came down from that high and just crashed and so badly that he was unconscious and the plane had to land.

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FunkiestOne said:

Suzanne said:

I've really been curious about all this. Hoping to hear from people who were actually at the show or in his presence. NONE of this is lining up. I mean, if he did OD, as they say, wouldn't people have noticed how out of it he was at the show? So many weird stories out, trying not to pay attention to that, however, the facts that are out, are very confusing as well. Everyone is reporting his performance was on point. Did you get that feeling?

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I was at both shows and in 4th row and 5th row of orchestra pit..very close He seemed fine at both shows...the only thing I thought at the time was that he looked extra thin and at the very end of the second show, he looked a bit fatigued when he walked off. I can't describe but I had that thought at the time...just the way he walked, looked like he was tired.

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But he seemed full of energy during the shows..his voice was passionate, he was walking around the stage. he was standing up sometimes playing the piano and everything seemed 100% fine at the time.

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[Edited 5/3/16 12:48pm]

Lucky you! I was in the balcony...off center. I wanted to see his face so bad. I wish I'd seen his face. Yeah, I could tell he'd pretty much done all he was gonna do by the end of the show.

Mintchip said:

not so incredible. it would just take a pill or two more than he was used to, or a drink or two with his usual ammount, taken right after the show, and he goes under on the plane. the timing works out.

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how good he sounds, to me, is the biggest clue that it wasn't a flu.

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He had tweeted something out about influenza though, days before the ATL shows was even announced. So maybe he did have it and was already in a weakened state, and that just made everything even worse.

I've only seen the 6 min mix of the shows on video. He looks up to the sky at the end of purple rain , who knows what he was thinking then.It did seem like he was tired or knew something .

But if he wasn't well , he may have been performing in the ' show must go on ' style that many on his level would do. No way of detetcing anything was wrong. Michael Jackson did it, I mean ok he looked pretty bad at 30th anniversary but no way you would've assumed he was so messed up the whole day and had to be woken up andbut on alot of pills to perform.

James Brown would have to be given an oxygen mask and feet and legs majorly massaged after each show. He was in terrible shape when he performed at the electric proms but you wouldn't know because he was on stage for 2 hours plus. When you are on stage you don't show weakness and prince knew that and i guess tried not too.

WeepyEyedWhiteGirl said:

FunkiestOne said:

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I was at both shows and in 4th row and 5th row of orchestra pit..very close He seemed fine at both shows...the only thing I thought at the time was that he looked extra thin and at the very end of the second show, he looked a bit fatigued when he walked off. I can't describe but I had that thought at the time...just the way he walked, looked like he was tired.

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But he seemed full of energy during the shows..his voice was passionate, he was walking around the stage. he was standing up sometimes playing the piano and everything seemed 100% fine at the time.

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[Edited 5/3/16 12:48pm]

Lucky you! I was in the balcony...off center. I wanted to see his face so bad. I wish I'd seen his face. Yeah, I could tell he'd pretty much done all he was gonna do by the end of the show.

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I was in the balcony during the first show and orchestra second show. I moved toward the divider between the high price seats and orchestra during the Purple Rain medley. He *did* look tired toward the end of the set, and slightly off-color (but I thought that could be related to the lighting or the reported flu). But as far as his performance went, that 2nd show especially, he was completely on. There was no way to tell during that performance there was anything wrong with him, at all.