fms said:

kapo74 said:

Hey man, Getting those will be very hard. The real fans will never sell these and the vultures on eBay just want to make a quick buck, fake CD's or not. Maybe you can find an obscure second hand wreckastow who has some copies in the back, but you'd have to be extremely lucky... Maybe waiting for reissues is the only option... Cheers!

There won't be any reissue...Everything released between 1995 and 2014 safe THE VAULT is now out of print.

Why can't Sony manufacture RAVEUN2, MUSICOLOGY and PLANET EARTH anymore ?

wHY can't Universal manufacture 3121 and HITNRUN 2 ?

The one million dollar question

Kever10 said:

Hi guys I'm looking to try and get a genuine copy of Crystal Ball (and if possible, One Night Alone) on CD, as they are still missing from my collection, but I'm wary of buying anything from eBay due to the amount of fakes. Any advice you can give me would be great. Cheers Kev 😊

eBay will refund you if you in case something goes wrong. It's actually safer to buy something on eBay than from Amazon marketplace sellers...

RODSERLING said:

kapo74 said:

Hey man, Getting those will be very hard. The real fans will never sell these and the vultures on eBay just want to make a quick buck, fake CD's or not. Maybe you can find an obscure second hand wreckastow who has some copies in the back, but you'd have to be extremely lucky... Maybe waiting for reissues is the only option... Cheers!

There won't be any reissue...Everything released between 1995 and 2014 safe THE VAULT is now out of print.

Why can't Sony manufacture RAVEUN2, MUSICOLOGY and PLANET EARTH anymore ?

wHY can't Universal manufacture 3121 and HITNRUN 2 ?

The one million dollar question

Most probably because Sony, Universal etc had distribution deals with Prince for a set time period. Once their license expired they cannot manufacture any more copies.

kapo74 said:

fms said:

Hi Crystal Ball is not so rare - there are plenty to be had on eBay. You will have to pay though. Prince CDs have shot up dramatically in prices since his death and Crystal Ball was already going for 50-60 dollars before. I wouldn't worry about that one being a fake. One Nite Alone, however, is quite rare since it was never sold in stores. Also it comes in a cardboard slipcase. Be sure if you get that one online the slipcase folds open like a gatefold. Ask to see photos. Lots of npgmc era releases being pirated and sold in cardboard slipcase with graphics printed on the CD - The War, Rave In2, Slaughterhouse, etc. these are fakes. What I'm saying is Ind Nite Alone is more rare and easier to fake so be cautious.

Strange enough, I bought my copy of ONA in a recordshop. They had several copies, too.

When & how much? Seems suspicious...

KaresB said:

RODSERLING said:

There won't be any reissue...Everything released between 1995 and 2014 safe THE VAULT is now out of print.

Why can't Sony manufacture RAVEUN2, MUSICOLOGY and PLANET EARTH anymore ?

wHY can't Universal manufacture 3121 and HITNRUN 2 ?

The one million dollar question

Most probably because Sony, Universal etc had distribution deals with Prince for a set time period. Once their license expired they cannot manufacture any more copies.

All this means is that whomever gets control of the estate can work out a deal to reissue them with whomever they wish. Will it be better if the work out a deal with WB so everything is under a single umbrella or should they go another route?

KaresB said:

RODSERLING said:

There won't be any reissue...Everything released between 1995 and 2014 safe THE VAULT is now out of print.

Why can't Sony manufacture RAVEUN2, MUSICOLOGY and PLANET EARTH anymore ?

wHY can't Universal manufacture 3121 and HITNRUN 2 ?

The one million dollar question

Most probably because Sony, Universal etc had distribution deals with Prince for a set time period. Once their license expired they cannot manufacture any more copies.

Well, if that's the case, that's a really dumb deal

RODSERLING said:

KaresB said:

Most probably because Sony, Universal etc had distribution deals with Prince for a set time period. Once their license expired they cannot manufacture any more copies.

Well, if that's the case, that's a really dumb deal

Not for Prince. He got the albums out and retained the ability to rerelease them anytime he wants. Whomever gains control of the music should be able to make a deal to get any post-WB material reissued.

ilo said:

Shit I don't even have a cd player since buying a Naim Nait5 recently and being told by the wife that I'll have to wait until next year to buy a cd player

?!?WHAT?!?

Do you own a computer with a disc drive, any video game system, a DVD or Bluray player?

If the answer to any of the above is yes, then, you already have a CD player.

RODSERLING said:

KaresB said:

Most probably because Sony, Universal etc had distribution deals with Prince for a set time period. Once their license expired they cannot manufacture any more copies.

Well, if that's the case, that's a really dumb deal

Quite the contrary. It is a smart deal and more and more people do this. (In fact, I have done it myself too: I licensed tracks I have produced and released originally to a record company for 5 years. They were allowed to put them out on CDs or whatever else, but when the license expired they had to quit selling those CDs and all rights reverted back to me.)

You can't seriously think that the Daily Mail holds the rights to rereleasing 20Ten, for example. The same goes for Universal and Sony.

KaresB said:

RODSERLING said:

Well, if that's the case, that's a really dumb deal

Quite the contrary. It is a smart deal and more and more people do this. (In fact, I have done it myself too: I licensed tracks I have produced and released originally to a record company for 5 years. They were allowed to put them out on CDs or whatever else, but when the license expired they had to quit selling those CDs and all rights reverted back to me.)

You can't seriously think that the Daily Mail holds the rights to rereleasing 20Ten, for example. The same goes for Universal and Sony.

That's a dumb deal. Because otherwise, MUSICOLOGY, 3121 etc. would have made the BB200. It's been 10 years since Musicology didn't sell a shit, it could have been a good catalogue seller, even without Prince's death.

RODSERLING said:

KaresB said:

Quite the contrary. It is a smart deal and more and more people do this. (In fact, I have done it myself too: I licensed tracks I have produced and released originally to a record company for 5 years. They were allowed to put them out on CDs or whatever else, but when the license expired they had to quit selling those CDs and all rights reverted back to me.)

You can't seriously think that the Daily Mail holds the rights to rereleasing 20Ten, for example. The same goes for Universal and Sony.

That's a dumb deal. Because otherwise, MUSICOLOGY, 3121 etc. would have made the BB200. It's been 10 years since Musicology didn't sell a shit, it could have been a good catalogue seller, even without Prince's death.

NO. Until 2 weeks ago, neither Musicology or 3121 were hard to get or expensive. Now, whomever gets control can work out a deal for those and other post WB albums with whomever to reissue. It was a GREAT deal for Prince and will prove to be so for his estate.

I have seen NEWS on ebay for over $70. That is why I bought 3 when it was first released and never opened 2 of them

djThunderfunk said:

RODSERLING said:

That's a dumb deal. Because otherwise, MUSICOLOGY, 3121 etc. would have made the BB200. It's been 10 years since Musicology didn't sell a shit, it could have been a good catalogue seller, even without Prince's death.

NO. Until 2 weeks ago, neither Musicology or 3121 were hard to get or expensive. Now, whomever gets control can work out a deal for those and other post WB albums with whomever to reissue. It was a GREAT deal for Prince and will prove to be so for his estate.

Exactly. And even in the case of albums long out of print (things like Exodus, for example), it was smart of Prince to license them only for a few years and hold onto the rights.

Not rereleasing them (or not making new distribution deals for them) is a different matter though – most probably Prince just lost interest in them and couldn't care less whether they are still available or not. When you're an artist, having control over your music is always better and smarter than not having any. And this means having the choice of whether you want your back catalog rereleased or not. Prince, in most cases, didn't want his old records rereleased.

His heirs, however, will most likely want to see an extensive reissue program that will provide a nice, steady income stream for their descendants too.

djThunderfunk said:

djThunderfunk said:

kapo74 said:

fms said: Strange enough, I bought my copy of ONA in a recordshop. They had several copies, too.

When & how much? Seems suspicious...

The year it was sold online, 2003 or so? Bought it for 50 Euro's at the Free Record Shop in Rotterdam. They had 3 or 4 copies on display. Same for the Crystal Ball set, although I dind't get the Deluxe set, which was also available but much more expensive. Never ordered any CD online, NPGMC or otherwise. Same with LotusFlower 3 CD set. It was just there, so I bought it.

ilo said:

djThunderfunk said:

?!?WHAT?!?

Do you own a computer with a disc drive, any video game system, a DVD or Bluray player?

If the answer to any of the above is yes, then, you already have a CD player.

Yes yes yes and err yes. But they'll sound shit played through a soundbar Plus I was just showing off a bit. Lol

P.S. you can run the audio out of any of those to any stereo system, just like you can with a cd player...

couldn't resist

kapo74 said:

djThunderfunk said:

When & how much? Seems suspicious...

The year it was sold online, 2003 or so? Bought it for 50 Euro's at the Free Record Shop in Rotterdam. They had 3 or 4 copies on display. Same for the Crystal Ball set, although I dind't get the Deluxe set, which was also available but much more expensive. Never ordered any CD online, NPGMC or otherwise. Same with LotusFlower 3 CD set. It was just there, so I bought it.

Well, awesome! Must be somebody cool ordering for that store that was willing to go outside the normal distribution...

One Nite Alone is what I am after, but good grief the prices on Amazon and Ebay are $400 and up!!!!!! I will have to wait it out and see what I can find. I think I have 3121 at home, I know I have Crystal Ball (4-cd version).

^^ Am after One Nite Alone piano album too. The prices will have to come down.

Guitarhero said:

^^ Am after One Nite Alone piano album too. The prices will have to come down.

That CD is always 100 dollars and up before Prince passed. It came with the One Nite Live Set as an extra from the NPG club lifetime membership.

Kever10 said:

Hi guys I'm looking to try and get a genuine copy of Crystal Ball (and if possible, One Night Alone) on CD, as they are still missing from my collection, but I'm wary of buying anything from eBay due to the amount of fakes. Any advice you can give me would be great. Cheers Kev 😊

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Buy on ebay from someone with good feedback and 14 day return policy and you are probably just fine.

mynameisnotsusan said:

They might get reissued but why have the physical format? I have the physical crystal ball 5 cd set but I ripped them once and only ever play the files. I've not bothered with ONA piano original because Ive never seen it for less than $150 and I have the music already.

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They are probably a collector, and nothing wrong with that. I sold all my Prince CDs a few years ago because I also just listen to the digital files, but I kept a handful of LPs and a poster and a couple of other things. But I just had too much and wasn't enjoying my collection so made sense to sell it when I did.

FunkiestOne said:

Kever10 said:

Hi guys I'm looking to try and get a genuine copy of Crystal Ball (and if possible, One Night Alone) on CD, as they are still missing from my collection, but I'm wary of buying anything from eBay due to the amount of fakes. Any advice you can give me would be great. Cheers Kev 😊

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Buy on ebay from someone with good feedback and 14 day return policy and you are probably just fine.

I purchased a really good fake Gold Experience CD on Ebay from a creditable buyer. They took it back probably sold it to someone else who didn't know better. I couldn't leave feedback because they took it back. FYI