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rlj1965

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Was Cancer a possibility?

Reading an interview in profound network.com and one of Prince's engineers suggests that Prince had cancer.

"PSN: He was a vegan?"

“I think that had a lot to do with him becoming a Jehovah’s Witness. Then the pain and all of that … so many things are coming out; I don’t believe any of it. I think it was the result of no medication, no medicine. He was such a believer that he became a vegan to cure himself. I know close friends [and] that worked for them, when chemo didn’t. He was a really slight guy. Robbie—the guy that used to go ahead to the hotels in every city—he’d get there the day before and get the hotel rooms set up; I never knew Prince carried weights around with him. He was always very fit."


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Reply #1 posted 05/02/16 2:34pm

SoulAlive

yes,I believe cancer could be a possibility.I guess it's too "boring" for the media to say this confused They would rather say that it was AIDS or a drug overdose.

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Reply #2 posted 05/02/16 2:48pm

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rlj1965 said:

Reading an interview in profound network.com and one of Prince's engineers suggests that Prince had cancer. "PSN: He was a vegan?" “I think that had a lot to do with him becoming a Jehovah’s Witness. Then the pain and all of that … so many things are coming out; I don’t believe any of it. I think it was the result of no medication, no medicine. He was such a believer that he became a vegan to cure himself. I know close friends [and] that worked for them, when chemo didn’t. He was a really slight guy. Robbie—the guy that used to go ahead to the hotels in every city—he’d get there the day before and get the hotel rooms set up; I never knew Prince carried weights around with him. He was always very fit." http://www.prosoundnetwor...leid=46040

Wow, that's interesting how he just kind of dropped that in there without elaborating. It's also important to keep in mind that unfortunately there are many types of cancer that people still consider embarrassing -- testicular, anal, etc. Of course, Prince was so private that he probably wouldn't even have wanted people to know if he had lymphoma, but just something to keep in mind. Also, cancer patients are frequently in a lot of pain and it's not at all unusual for them to take opioid medications as a result. Oftentimes it's the only thing that can make life bearable under those circumstances.

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Reply #3 posted 05/02/16 2:52pm

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rlj1965 said:

Reading an interview in profound network.com and one of Prince's engineers suggests that Prince had cancer.

"PSN: He was a vegan?"

“I think that had a lot to do with him becoming a Jehovah’s Witness. Then the pain and all of that … so many things are coming out; I don’t believe any of it. I think it was the result of no medication, no medicine. He was such a believer that he became a vegan to cure himself. I know close friends [and] that worked for them, when chemo didn’t. He was a really slight guy. Robbie—the guy that used to go ahead to the hotels in every city—he’d get there the day before and get the hotel rooms set up; I never knew Prince carried weights around with him. He was always very fit."


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Wow! It certainly reads like perhaps it's a big possibility. Maybe the downplay or lack of information is because the JW doesn't want bad press being that he may not have sought meds because he thought prayer could cure him. Tyka is also a JW too so she may not want them to get bad press either as its her main source of emotional support.

He certainly looks like he started waning in the that three years. I still think epilepsy is a consideration too. It seems pretty clear that Wendy& Lisa as well as his original crews (prior to TAFKAP) seem a bit wary of how religious he started to become. It would also appear that in the last few years he really did reach out to old friends but also became more spiritual in the last year. Conflicted for sure.
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Reply #4 posted 05/02/16 2:56pm

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Reply #5 posted 05/02/16 3:02pm

MissMarySharon

This is such an interesting article. I definitely think cancer might be at least part of the explanation, this guy has no reason to make up such a thing, and actually it would explain a lot. Many people with cancer do refuse treatment for a variety of reasons.
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Reply #6 posted 05/02/16 3:04pm

Guitarhero

Think this too sad He was not eating too, this is too familiar to me.

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Reply #7 posted 05/02/16 3:07pm

nursev

sad sad

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Reply #8 posted 05/02/16 3:43pm

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I was listening to AOA & the lyrics made me think- U Know "If u really want 2 find the answer 2 this cancer then we must rewind, & never mind the first opinion (u better ask somebody else)

And then in Clouds "We just want to let you know that the medication you were given has put you in a suspended animation for quite sometime"

Made me feel incredibly sad to think if he had been so ill sad
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Reply #9 posted 05/02/16 3:47pm

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Great article! But he didn't say cancer was a possibility for Prince - he didn't speak to what Prince may have died from at all. What he meant was that he'd seen other friends of his who were helped or cured through healthier eating.

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Reply #10 posted 05/02/16 5:09pm

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SoulAlive said:

yes,I believe cancer could be a possibility.I guess it's too "boring" for the media to say this confused They would rather say that it was AIDS or a drug overdose.



Well don't forget, people with HIV that has gone into full blown AIDS commonly die from a form of cancer, usually kaposi sarcoma.

"Kaposi sarcoma (KS) is a cancer that develops from the cells that line lymph or blood vessels. It usually appears as tumors on the skin or on mucosal surfaces such as inside the mouth, but tumors can also develop in other parts of the body, such as in the lymph nodes (bean-sized collections of immune cells throughout the body), the lungs, or digestive tract."

So we can't say for sure until the autopsy findings are made public but if you have painful sores in your throat and digestive tract it could still be AIDS related cancer.


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Reply #11 posted 05/02/16 5:36pm

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OmegaSeamaster said:

SoulAlive said:

yes,I believe cancer could be a possibility.I guess it's too "boring" for the media to say this confused They would rather say that it was AIDS or a drug overdose.



Well don't forget, people with HIV that has gone into full blown AIDS commonly die from a form of cancer, usually kaposi sarcoma.

"Kaposi sarcoma (KS) is a cancer that develops from the cells that line lymph or blood vessels. It usually appears as tumors on the skin or on mucosal surfaces such as inside the mouth, but tumors can also develop in other parts of the body, such as in the lymph nodes (bean-sized collections of immune cells throughout the body), the lungs, or digestive tract."

So we can't say for sure until the autopsy findings are made public but if you have painful sores in your throat and digestive tract it could still be AIDS related cancer.


Are you suggesting that a very easily manageable autoimmune disease like HIV went untreated for no reason? That doesn't make much sense. I don't know much about JW's but I don't think they'd have any prohibitions of easily accessible medicines such as those available for HIV.

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Reply #12 posted 05/02/16 6:20pm

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rlj1965 said:

Reading an interview in profound network.com and one of Prince's engineers suggests that Prince had cancer. "PSN: He was a vegan?" “I think that had a lot to do with him becoming a Jehovah’s Witness. Then the pain and all of that … so many things are coming out; I don’t believe any of it. I think it was the result of no medication, no medicine. He was such a believer that he became a vegan to cure himself. I know close friends [and] that worked for them, when chemo didn’t. He was a really slight guy. Robbie—the guy that used to go ahead to the hotels in every city—he’d get there the day before and get the hotel rooms set up; I never knew Prince carried weights around with him. He was always very fit." http://www.prosoundnetwor...leid=46040

Great interview!

Change it one more time..
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Reply #13 posted 05/02/16 6:23pm

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lezama said:

OmegaSeamaster said:



Well don't forget, people with HIV that has gone into full blown AIDS commonly die from a form of cancer, usually kaposi sarcoma.

"Kaposi sarcoma (KS) is a cancer that develops from the cells that line lymph or blood vessels. It usually appears as tumors on the skin or on mucosal surfaces such as inside the mouth, but tumors can also develop in other parts of the body, such as in the lymph nodes (bean-sized collections of immune cells throughout the body), the lungs, or digestive tract."

So we can't say for sure until the autopsy findings are made public but if you have painful sores in your throat and digestive tract it could still be AIDS related cancer.


Are you suggesting that a very easily manageable autoimmune disease like HIV went untreated for no reason? That doesn't make much sense. I don't know much about JW's but I don't think they'd have any prohibitions of easily accessible medicines such as those available for HIV.

They don't.

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Reply #14 posted 05/02/16 6:26pm

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I thought (and posted) the same thing. It would explain the weight loss, the pain killers and his rather sunken in look over the last year or so.

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Reply #15 posted 05/02/16 6:40pm

mtlfan

Stop believing everything you read, you might end up thinking Voldemort's real too. A: Prince was singing about soy milk, ie. the vegan lifestyle, in 1996. Are you suggesting he lived with either HIV or cancer all those years and toured as much as he did, and being vegan was his only solution? B: I saw Prince play live a month before he died, bouncing around the stage at 3 AM; I doubt you're doing that if you have cancer or AIDS. C: Prince's autopsy was inconclusive. I'm thinking doctors are smart enough to detect terminal cancer or HIV/AIDS in 2016.

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Reply #16 posted 05/02/16 6:49pm

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lezama said:



OmegaSeamaster said:




SoulAlive said:


yes,I believe cancer could be a possibility.I guess it's too "boring" for the media to say this confused They would rather say that it was AIDS or a drug overdose.





Well don't forget, people with HIV that has gone into full blown AIDS commonly die from a form of cancer, usually kaposi sarcoma.



"Kaposi sarcoma (KS) is a cancer that develops from the cells that line lymph or blood vessels. It usually appears as tumors on the skin or on mucosal surfaces such as inside the mouth, but tumors can also develop in other parts of the body, such as in the lymph nodes (bean-sized collections of immune cells throughout the body), the lungs, or digestive tract."



So we can't say for sure until the autopsy findings are made public but if you have painful sores in your throat and digestive tract it could still be AIDS related cancer.






Are you suggesting that a very easily manageable autoimmune disease like HIV went untreated for no reason? That doesn't make much sense. I don't know much about JW's but I don't think they'd have any prohibitions of easily accessible medicines such as those available for HIV.


--- They JWs have said they nothing against medical help or aid. If Prince had cancer he may have decided to not have treatment or it could have been terminal with nothing to be done about. I find it hard to believe he had full blown AIDS do a concert, throw a party, go to a jazz club, go record shopping, and ride a bike. He also brought a 20k guitar and 20k piano and spoke to many people about adding concert dates!!! Does anyone just think he had a heart attack and he just worked himself to death or just ignored his flu problem.
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Reply #17 posted 05/02/16 6:50pm

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laurarichardson said:

lezama said:

Are you suggesting that a very easily manageable autoimmune disease like HIV went untreated for no reason? That doesn't make much sense. I don't know much about JW's but I don't think they'd have any prohibitions of easily accessible medicines such as those available for HIV.

--- They JWs have said they nothing against medical help or aid. If Prince had cancer he may have decided to not have treatment or it could have been terminal with nothing to be done about. I find it hard to believe he had full blown AIDS do a concert, throw a party, go to a jazz club, go record shopping, and ride a bike. He also brought a 20k guitar and 20k piano and spoke to many people about adding concert dates!!! Does anyone just think he had a heart attack and he just worked himself to death or just ignored his flu problem.

Yeah. The flu part will still make me mad though.

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Reply #18 posted 05/02/16 6:58pm

ecnirp1

Starting to think that Cancer is a very real possibility. Look at the interview the chef did. He wasn't eating and not drinking. Losing weight - Sore throats, sick a alot over the last few months.

Anyone who has seen a relative die from cancer knows that this is possible but usually they wilt away and not die so suddenly.

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Reply #19 posted 05/02/16 7:01pm

nursev

Whatever it was it was awful and quick....How did Prince go from the top to the bottom in just maybe three, four years sad

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Reply #20 posted 05/02/16 7:02pm

mtlfan

Do you guys think Prince had the bubonic plague, maybe? In "When Doves Cry," he sings about his stomach trembling, maybe he was talking about the vomiting that happens when you get the black death.

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Reply #21 posted 05/02/16 7:04pm

mtlfan

ecnirp1 said:

Starting to think that Cancer is a very real possibility. Look at the interview the chef did. He wasn't eating and not drinking. Losing weight - Sore throats, sick a alot over the last few months.

Anyone who has seen a relative die from cancer knows that this is possible but usually they wilt away and not die so suddenly.

True, but again, bouncing around stage one month before dying. Inconclusive autopsy.

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Reply #22 posted 05/02/16 7:15pm

nursev

ecnirp1 said:

Starting to think that Cancer is a very real possibility. Look at the interview the chef did. He wasn't eating and not drinking. Losing weight - Sore throats, sick a alot over the last few months.

Anyone who has seen a relative die from cancer knows that this is possible but usually they wilt away and not die so suddenly.

sad

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Reply #23 posted 05/02/16 7:21pm

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morningsong said:



laurarichardson said:


lezama said:


Are you suggesting that a very easily manageable autoimmune disease like HIV went untreated for no reason? That doesn't make much sense. I don't know much about JW's but I don't think they'd have any prohibitions of easily accessible medicines such as those available for HIV.



--- They JWs have said they nothing against medical help or aid. If Prince had cancer he may have decided to not have treatment or it could have been terminal with nothing to be done about. I find it hard to believe he had full blown AIDS do a concert, throw a party, go to a jazz club, go record shopping, and ride a bike. He also brought a 20k guitar and 20k piano and spoke to many people about adding concert dates!!! Does anyone just think he had a heart attack and he just worked himself to death or just ignored his flu problem.

Yeah. The flu part will still make me mad though.


-- It makes me mad as well and I hope to God that is not what it was something that could have been resolved by going into the Hospital instead gallivanting around all weekend.
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Reply #24 posted 05/02/16 7:54pm

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Percocet can also reduce appetite.

http://www.percocetabuseh...s-appetite

Percocet comprises both acetaminophen and oxycodone. The oxycodone portion is an opioid, which plugs into chemical receptors in the brain. This action helps decrease pain, but is also responsible for many other side effects, like reducing appetite. This side effect often surprises those that use the drug, but it still happens as oxycodone affects the part of the brain responsible for appetite regulation. When Percocet is abused in high doses, the chances of experiencing a reduced appetite may be even greater.

A decreased appetite may also occur as a secondary side effect due to nausea and vomiting, two common side effects of Percocet use. Though this drug may not directly suppress appetite, nausea may lead drug users to avoid food temporarily. Constipation, another common side effect of the drug, can suppress appetite in the same way. The body may decrease its need for food when constipation is occurring.

Loss of Appetite from Liver Damage

While many people experience appetite loss as a harmless side effect of using Percocet, it may be linked to a much more dangerous problem, liver damage. Acetaminophen, more commonly known as Tylenol, is a component of Percocet that relieves pain, but it can also damage the liver when taken in high doses or for extended periods of time. Loss of appetite is one of the first noticeable signs of acetaminophen overdose and liver damage. Other early signs include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and irritability. Unfortunately, many of these symptoms occur naturally with Percocet use, so it can be difficult to distinguish an overdose from normal side effects.

As Percocet overdose damage grows worse, symptoms may temporarily decrease even while the damage progresses. Roughly 48 hours after overdose occurs, pain may form in the upper-right portion of the abdomen. The skin and eyes may begin to turn yellow, and you may notice darker urine. Symptoms will grow progressively worse until liver damage becomes irreversible. If you suspect that your Percocet abuse has led to overdose or liver damage, then seek medical help immediately.


http://www.rxlist.com/per...center.htm

Here are the minor side effects of Percocet.

The most frequent minor side effects of Percocet include gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms of constipation, nausea, vomiting, upset stomach, somnolence (sleepiness), dizziness, lightheadedness, itching, headache, blurred vision, dry mouth, sweating, and decreases in the ability to feel pain.

Here is some interesting info. Wrong dosage or chewing the tablet can lead to serious problems.

with a total daily dose not to exceed 4 grams of acetaminophen to avoid liver damage; 60 mg total per day of oxycodone strength and above used only for opioid tolerant patients. The tablets should be swallowed whole because broken or chewed tablets release oxycodone too rapidly and because it is rapidly adsorbed, too concentrated levels will be present in the body which can lead to death. Serious adverse reactions which may occur with Percocet are similar to those observed with other opioid analgesics; they include respiratory depression, apnea (periodic stop of breathing), respiratory arrest, circulatory depression, hypotension (low blood pressure), shock, and death.

Here are the serious side effects


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Reply #25 posted 05/02/16 8:17pm

nursev

^ Truly sad....whatever adverse reaction it was...it was quick.

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Reply #26 posted 05/02/16 8:52pm

morningsong

I think most of us have processed the possibility of it being the Percocet to accept it and not fall apart if this is the final report from the toxology exam. It's that tiny percent that it could be any number of other things that's gnawing away. Or Gawd forbid the toxic screen comes back inconclusive.
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Reply #27 posted 05/02/16 8:53pm

nursev

morningsong said:

I think most of us have processed the possibility of it being the Percocet not to fall apart if this is the final report from the toxology exam. It's that tiny percent that it could be any number of other things that's gnawing away. Or Gawd forbid the toxic screen comes back inconclusive.

I think its the inconclusive that's bothering us all eek

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Reply #28 posted 05/02/16 9:01pm

morningsong

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morningsong said:


I think most of us have processed the possibility of it being the Percocet not to fall apart if this is the final report from the toxology exam. It's that tiny percent that it could be any number of other things that's gnawing away. Or Gawd forbid the toxic screen comes back inconclusive.

I think its the inconclusive that's bothering us all eek


Imagine what would be in the rumor mill then.
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Reply #29 posted 05/02/16 9:02pm

nursev

morningsong said:

nursev said:

I think its the inconclusive that's bothering us all eek

Imagine what would be in the rumor mill then.

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