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Prince's Personal Chef says he was sick the last 2 months before.... LONGTIME CHEF: PRINCE FIGHTING THROAT, STOMACH ISSUES 2 MONTHS BEFORE DEATH---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — On stage, Prince was still captivating audiences at recent performances in Australia and California. He hosted a pop-up party at his Paisley Park studio, and there were few outward signs in his final months that anything was wrong.
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[Please do not reproduce article in its entirety due to copyright infringement. No permission from source. - luv4u] ''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''
RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016 |
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/16 12:34pm
JudasLChrist |
Sorta gives those HIV rumours a little credence. |
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Reply #2 posted 05/01/16 12:35pm
Superfan1984 |
Should this guy be giving these details? |
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/16 12:45pm
PeteSilas |
definitely will fuel the speculation. sounds like a decent simple guy though, this cook. |
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Reply #4 posted 05/01/16 12:51pm
endiadj |
Superfan1984 said: Should this guy be giving these details? yeah, don't get why he had to go onto detail about his wellness. Unnecesary. |
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/16 1:03pm
JudasLChrist |
endiadj said:
Superfan1984 said:
Should this guy be giving these details?
yeah, don't get why he had to go onto detail about his wellness. Unnecesary.
I don't understand why he shouldn't be going into detail. It brings us closer to the truth of what happened.
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/16 1:03pm
Strive |
endiadj said:
Superfan1984 said:
Should this guy be giving these details?
yeah, don't get why he had to go onto detail about his wellness. Unnecesary.
AP ran it with a negative spin. No surprise.
http://www.citypages.com/...fs-8238997
"This last year he was always working. Almost always playing piano. He was destined to be the next Ray Charles on tour." (Prince had been embarking on his "Piano and a Microphone" tour, and Roberts says Prince was studying Ray Charles videos for inspiration.) He says Prince would regularly play three seconds of a song, dozens of times in a row, to get it right. [Please do not reproduce article in its entirety due to copyright infringement. No permission from source. - luv4u]
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/16 1:09pm
endiadj |
JudasLChrist said:
endiadj said: Superfan1984 said:
Should this guy be giving these details? yeah, don't get why he had to go onto detail about his wellness. Unnecesary.
I don't understand why he shouldn't be going into detail. It brings us closer to the truth of what happened.
I'd rather get the truth from the autopsy/toxicology reports not someone's speculation though. |
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Reply #9 posted 05/01/16 1:13pm
JudasLChrist |
endiadj said:
JudasLChrist said:
I don't understand why he shouldn't be going into detail. It brings us closer to the truth of what happened.
I'd rather get the truth from the autopsy/toxicology reports not someone's speculation though.
He's not speculating. He's sharing his actual experience. |
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/16 1:18pm
BobGeorge909 |
JudasLChrist said: Sorta gives those HIV rumours a little credence. Oh yeah...cuz I have AIDS....not crohns or IBS or a stress ulcer... Ure being very generous with the word 'little'. |
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Reply #11 posted 05/01/16 1:19pm
endiadj |
JudasLChrist said:
endiadj said: JudasLChrist said:
I don't understand why he shouldn't be going into detail. It brings us closer to the truth of what happened.
I'd rather get the truth from the autopsy/toxicology reports not someone's speculation though.
He's not speculating. He's sharing his actual experience. I understand. I'm just saying the people who were closest to him knew he valued his privacy tremendously, so they shouldn't be giving out personal details like this that can lead to so much speculation about his private life. Just out of respect. |
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Reply #12 posted 05/01/16 1:21pm
MMJas |
endiadj said:
JudasLChrist said:
I don't understand why he shouldn't be going into detail. It brings us closer to the truth of what happened.
I'd rather get the truth from the autopsy/toxicology reports not someone's speculation though.
I think this was quite respectful. That guy is obviously suffering from the loss. And think about it, I bet he has tons more stories and did not chose to share them. I think it's a piece that shows respect, mourning and someone trying to make sense of it all. |
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Reply #13 posted 05/01/16 1:44pm
spastic78 |
endiadj said: JudasLChrist said:
endiadj said: Superfan1984 said:
Should this guy be giving these details? yeah, don't get why he had to go onto detail about his wellness. Unnecesary.
I don't understand why he shouldn't be going into detail. It brings us closer to the truth of what happened.
I'd rather get the truth from the autopsy/toxicology reports not someone's speculation though. I was a bit surprised at the Chef's innuendo...and his not waiting for a toxicology report before voicing his opinion. And what does, "like at a restaurant" mean?!? Puleeze. Chronic pain can make a person super direct as their energy is consumed with managing pain. And it's easy to lose your appetite and weight on pain meds. But everyone's body reacts differently. I had a close call because I thought that by halving my dose but taking it more frequently I'd be fine. However, a side-effect of the pain pills was insomnia so my body responded by going into status epilepticus and respiratory distress -this in 2015 after using them since 2011. Within 3 years I went from being rosy-cheeked to sour-cheeks that even filler couldn't disguise but just made me look awkward. So all these people with their suspicions and weird thoughts puleeze...most people in chronic pain go through these transitions, have weird appetites and withdrawal symptoms when switching pain meds or even weaning off the meds. The real tragedy in my opinion is that Prince didn't trust people or the public to feel safe enough to reveal what his plight was about and that no one begged him to carry a medic-alert or cell-phone. So I figure that's why he left no will...he couldn't count on anyone when he was alive so why was he going to worry about it when he died? And I honestly think he'd just love everyone to share the music freely now...when he was alive he demanded respect by controlling how his music was distributed cuz he knew mani were just taking advantage of him. |
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Reply #14 posted 05/01/16 1:55pm
donnyenglish |
The man was sick. He may have died from the drugs, but there was an underlying illness. Frankly, it makes me feel better that this was something beyond his control. I am so tired of the media making him out to be an addict. He was in control. He knew exactly what was happening to him. |
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Reply #15 posted 05/01/16 1:58pm
nursev |
So when will we be able to talk rationally about the elephant in the room that is AIDS? I know it hurts to see all these stories, but it is a possibility |
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Reply #16 posted 05/01/16 1:58pm
MMJas |
spastic78 said:
endiadj said:
I'd rather get the truth from the autopsy/toxicology reports not someone's speculation though.
I was a bit surprised at the Chef's innuendo...and his not waiting for a toxicology report before voicing his opinion. And what does, "like at a restaurant" mean?!? Puleeze. Chronic pain can make a person super direct as their energy is consumed with managing pain. And it's easy to lose your appetite and weight on pain meds. But everyone's body reacts differently. I had a close call because I thought that by halving my dose but taking it more frequently I'd be fine. However, a side-effect of the pain pills was insomnia so my body responded by going into status epilepticus and respiratory distress -this in 2015 after using them since 2011. Within 3 years I went from being rosy-cheeked to sour-cheeks that even filler couldn't disguise but just made me look awkward. So all these people with their suspicions and weird thoughts puleeze...most people in chronic pain go through these transitions, have weird appetites and withdrawal symptoms when switching pain meds or even weaning off the meds. The real tragedy in my opinion is that Prince didn't trust people or the public to feel safe enough to reveal what his plight was about and that no one begged him to carry a medic-alert or cell-phone. So I figure that's why he left no will...he couldn't count on anyone when he was alive so why was he going to worry about it when he died? And I honestly think he'd just love everyone to share the music freely now...when he was alive he demanded respect by controlling how his music was distributed cuz he knew mani were just taking advantage of him.
This. ^ |
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Reply #17 posted 05/01/16 2:21pm
donnyenglish |
nursev said: So when will we be able to talk rationally about the elephant in the room that is AIDS? I know it hurts to see all these stories, but it is a possibility I have come to accept that it was some terminal illness. As a fan, I find some peace in this and it angers me that the media is making him out to be a druggy when he was not. The film that is curculating of clips from the Atlanta show and his final official photo clearly show an emaciated and frail Prince, who was already a tiny human being. He was a dying man who might have taken some drugs to get him through his last days. I love and respect him for this. He was so brave. For him tobe able to deliver those shows in Atlanta while he was dying shows how great he truly was. |
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Reply #18 posted 05/01/16 2:21pm
Strive |
spastic78 said:
And what does, "like at a restaurant" mean?!? Puleeze.
I don't think the guy meant it as a negative. If you read the full interview, it sounded like the chef had the freedom to serve Prince what he wanted and Prince would give him clues as to what direction he should go in instead of directly telling him 'i want [specific meal]'
And they kept it quiet that they cooked for him until his death. I'm sure Prince would understand them promoting their restaurant while sharing a few memories. It's not their fault the media spun in a negative fashion.
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Reply #19 posted 05/01/16 2:23pm
keenly |
JudasLChrist said:
Sorta gives those HIV rumours a little credence.
Nonsense. |
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Reply #20 posted 05/01/16 2:24pm
nursev |
donnyenglish said:
nursev said:
So when will we be able to talk rationally about the elephant in the room that is AIDS? I know it hurts to see all these stories, but it is a possibility
I have come to accept that it was some terminal illness. As a fan, I find some peace in this and it angers me that the media is making him out to be a druggy when he was not. The film that is curculating of clips from the Atlanta show and his final official photo clearly show an emaciated and frail Prince, who was already a tiny human being. He was a dying man who might have taken some drugs to get him through his last days. I love and respect him for this. He was so brave. For him tobe able to deliver those shows in Atlanta while he was dying shows how great he truly was.
Aww Im crying again. Its so sad cuz I believe it was a terminal illness too. Im saddened that he chose to brave it alone...but I can see why he did. He was so brave up until the end and I love and respect him for that. |
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Reply #21 posted 05/01/16 2:25pm
Guitarhero |
Could been cancer , that also took my mother not eating well near the end too. |
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Reply #22 posted 05/01/16 2:27pm
nursev |
Guitarhero said:
Could been cancer , that also took my mother not eating well near the end too.
aww |
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Reply #23 posted 05/01/16 2:29pm
Mintchip
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MMJas said:
spastic78 said:
endiadj said: I was a bit surprised at the Chef's innuendo...and his not waiting for a toxicology report before voicing his opinion. And what does, "like at a restaurant" mean?!? Puleeze. Chronic pain can make a person super direct as their energy is consumed with managing pain. And it's easy to lose your appetite and weight on pain meds. But everyone's body reacts differently. I had a close call because I thought that by halving my dose but taking it more frequently I'd be fine. However, a side-effect of the pain pills was insomnia so my body responded by going into status epilepticus and respiratory distress -this in 2015 after using them since 2011. Within 3 years I went from being rosy-cheeked to sour-cheeks that even filler couldn't disguise but just made me look awkward. So all these people with their suspicions and weird thoughts puleeze...most people in chronic pain go through these transitions, have weird appetites and withdrawal symptoms when switching pain meds or even weaning off the meds. The real tragedy in my opinion is that Prince didn't trust people or the public to feel safe enough to reveal what his plight was about and that no one begged him to carry a medic-alert or cell-phone. So I figure that's why he left no will...he couldn't count on anyone when he was alive so why was he going to worry about it when he died? And I honestly think he'd just love everyone to share the music freely now...when he was alive he demanded respect by controlling how his music was distributed cuz he knew mani were just taking advantage of him.
This. ^
To understand why, all you have to do is read the responses of people on this message board to the likelihood that Prince may have been a drug addict.
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Denails, caveats, insinuations of murder and conspiracy, rage (at TMZ, for telling the truth?), AIDS, anything, really, other than "he was an addict, and needed help". It's shame of what other people think - and most other people think you should be ashamed - that keeps addicts from taking responsibilty, admitting they're out of control, have a disease, and need help.
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Reply #24 posted 05/01/16 2:31pm
Reply #25 posted 05/01/16 2:32pm
Mintchip
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donnyenglish said:
The man was sick. He may have died from the drugs, but there was an underlying illness. Frankly, it makes me feel better that this was something beyond his control. I am so tired of the media making him out to be an addict. He was in control. He knew exactly what was happening to him.
drug addiction is a disease. He was not in control. |
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Reply #26 posted 05/01/16 2:34pm
FunkiestOne |
endiadj said:
JudasLChrist said:
I don't understand why he shouldn't be going into detail. It brings us closer to the truth of what happened.
I'd rather get the truth from the autopsy/toxicology reports not someone's speculation though.
Toxicology report is not going to tell you how he was feeling in the months before he died. The only truth it's going to give you is what the true results of the tests are. It may create more questions than what it answered.
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The chefs are giving you the truth, unless you choose to think they are lying or delusional, and both of those are unlikely. The truth is that Prince wasn't feeling well for the last few months. |
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Reply #27 posted 05/01/16 2:35pm
FunkiestOne |
Mintchip said:
donnyenglish said:
The man was sick. He may have died from the drugs, but there was an underlying illness. Frankly, it makes me feel better that this was something beyond his control. I am so tired of the media making him out to be an addict. He was in control. He knew exactly what was happening to him.
drug addiction is a disease. He was not in control.
And if he was dependent on painkillers, they affected his brain and he wasn't even "himself". |
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Reply #28 posted 05/01/16 2:39pm
endiadj |
FunkiestOne said:
endiadj said: JudasLChrist said:
I don't understand why he shouldn't be going into detail. It brings us closer to the truth of what happened.
I'd rather get the truth from the autopsy/toxicology reports not someone's speculation though.
Toxicology report is not going to tell you how he was feeling in the months before he died. The only truth it's going to give you is what the true results of the tests are. It may create more questions than what it answered. . The chefs are giving you the truth, unless you choose to think they are lying or delusional, and both of those are unlikely. The truth is that Prince wasn't feeling well for the last few months. but they're not giving me the "why". only autopsy/toxicology can give us those answers. what the chef is saying is leading to more speculation. that's why i said he should've kept details of his wellness to himself. |
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Reply #29 posted 05/01/16 2:42pm
Philly76 |
Please stop to spread the HIV rumor. With all the "facts" we have so far its unlikely Prince was HIV+. As a doctor i can say it's not likely he died due to Aids with the clinical picture we know yet. |
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