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Thread started 05/01/16 12:56am

jackmitz

Vinyl collectors! Reissues are on the way...

Looks like the reissue train is coming....pre-orders are being taken for ATWIAD and Lotus Flow3r:

http://www.soundstagedirect.com/price-around-the-world-in-a-day-vinyl-records.shtml

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Reply #1 posted 05/01/16 1:21am

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jackmitz said:

Looks like the reissue train is coming....pre-orders are being taken for ATWIAD and Lotus Flow3r:

http://www.soundstagedirect.com/price-around-the-world-in-a-day-vinyl-records.shtml

Thank you!! thumbs up! Just ordered 1999 to replace the one that got stolen.

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Reply #2 posted 05/01/16 4:25am

DiscoBallz

I can't imagine buying these when they aren't remasters. What is the point?

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Reply #3 posted 05/01/16 5:00am

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DiscoBallz said:

I can't imagine buying these when they aren't remasters. What is the point?

There's reason to believe they are. Prince's catalog was remastered AGES ago. Some of the remastered albums were released a while back (Yes, those Dirty Mind, Controverysy, 1999 and PR vinyls were remasters). Kevin Gray remastered For You, which was released on Friday. Amazon now has pre-order listings for all his albums on vinyl up to the Batman soundtrack.

[Edited 5/1/16 5:03am]

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Reply #4 posted 05/01/16 5:57am

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I would love everything from 2000 onwards to be remastered as well as the 80's. Most of Prince's stuff is a compressed mess.

The latest 1999 vinyl issue sounds great.

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Reply #5 posted 05/01/16 5:59am

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DiscoBallz said:

I can't imagine buying these when they aren't remasters. What is the point?

There's reason to believe they are. Prince's catalog was remastered AGES ago. Some of the remastered albums were released a while back (Yes, those Dirty Mind, Controverysy, 1999 and PR vinyls were remasters). Kevin Gray remastered For You, which was released on Friday. Amazon now has pre-order listings for all his albums on vinyl up to the Batman soundtrack.

[Edited 5/1/16 5:03am]

I need to hear that new For You! The original CD sounds like crap.

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Reply #6 posted 05/01/16 6:29am

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...or just track down the original LPs. In many ways they sound far superior to the CDs that are currently out there. In particular, the original pressings of Dirty Mind song great.

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Reply #7 posted 05/01/16 8:49am

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

DiscoBallz said:

I can't imagine buying these when they aren't remasters. What is the point?

There's reason to believe they are. Prince's catalog was remastered AGES ago. Some of the remastered albums were released a while back (Yes, those Dirty Mind, Controverysy, 1999 and PR vinyls were remasters). Kevin Gray remastered For You, which was released on Friday. Amazon now has pre-order listings for all his albums on vinyl up to the Batman soundtrack.

I tend to agree. I remember over 10 years ago someone was interviewing Prince, and the idea of remasters came up. Prince said something like "Yeah, I'm wondering why they're not remastered yet either". This was the early aughts when remastering was really catching fire with different artists. I always had the idea that Prince never really cared enough about his catalog to mess with it to that extent. That whole "don't look back to the past" thing he had going on. But with the WB deal, he did say a lot of the remasters were done.

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If the reissues are remastered, then even without bonus tracks, I'd buy stuff through Lovesexy, because after that (or soon after?) he was on DAT anyway. I mean, how much more does something like Come or The Gold Experience need in remastering or cleaning up? They're already ear piercing when the high end on your HiFi isn't adjusted a tad down.

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Also, I'd read that part of the WB remaster deal was that if Prince ever died, that his WB catalog stuff would revert back to WB, so they could handle that stuff. We'll see. I just hope they do it right, because if anyone knows a fan's need, it has to be WB, especially in this day and age with communication being so direct, and fan outcry being loud and clear.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/16 9:05am

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I bought the recent NPG/Warner Brothers release of For You. There is no information on it whatsoever to indicate it has been remastered or is a remaster. Discogs mentions that the 2016 release has been mastered by a Kevin Gray at Cohearant Audio but his name is nowhere on the vinyl or the cover. This reissue sounds no different (to my ears) from the 1984 Europe vinyl release.

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Reply #9 posted 05/01/16 9:27am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

I bought the recent NPG/Warner Brothers release of For You. There is no information on it whatsoever to indicate it has been remastered or is a remaster. Discogs mentions that the 2016 release has been mastered by a Kevin Gray at Cohearant Audio but his name is nowhere on the vinyl or the cover. This reissue sounds no different (to my ears) from the 1984 Europe vinyl release.

It not being on the label or the vinyl means nothing. "Remastered" wasn't on the previous vinyl reissues either but it has been proven that they are in fact remasters.

[Edited 5/1/16 9:27am]

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Reply #10 posted 05/01/16 9:29am

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

I bought the recent NPG/Warner Brothers release of For You. There is no information on it whatsoever to indicate it has been remastered or is a remaster. Discogs mentions that the 2016 release has been mastered by a Kevin Gray at Cohearant Audio but his name is nowhere on the vinyl or the cover. This reissue sounds no different (to my ears) from the 1984 Europe vinyl release.

It not being on the label or the vinyl means nothing. "Remastered" wasn't on the previous vinyl reissues either but it has been proven that they are in fact remasters.

[Edited 5/1/16 9:27am]

I see.

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Reply #11 posted 05/01/16 9:33am

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Also check the deadwax for

  • Matrix / Runout (Side A): 14943 1A [Stamped] 1-553364-A KG@CA [Etched]

That's Kevin Gray at Coherent Audio. It's on the European version of this reissue so it probably should be on the U.S. one too.

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Reply #12 posted 05/01/16 10:09am

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^ Thanks for the info.

The old and new still sound the same to my ears though.

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Reply #13 posted 05/01/16 10:21am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

^ Thanks for the info.


The old and new still sound the same to my ears though.



That's not unusual. I've had similar experiences with other remasters. It really just depends on the source, how much can be done and how much the remasterer WANTS to do. Sometimes they just want to get as close to the original sound while simultaneously cleaning up the frequencies. I haven't listened to For You on vinyl in a while but if I remember it sounded pretty good sonically anyway.
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Reply #14 posted 05/01/16 10:25am

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TrivialPursuit said:



KlyphIsBackAgain said:




DiscoBallz said:


I can't imagine buying these when they aren't remasters. What is the point?





There's reason to believe they are. Prince's catalog was remastered AGES ago. Some of the remastered albums were released a while back (Yes, those Dirty Mind, Controverysy, 1999 and PR vinyls were remasters). Kevin Gray remastered For You, which was released on Friday. Amazon now has pre-order listings for all his albums on vinyl up to the Batman soundtrack.





I tend to agree. I remember over 10 years ago someone was interviewing Prince, and the idea of remasters came up. Prince said something like "Yeah, I'm wondering why they're not remastered yet either". This was the early aughts when remastering was really catching fire with different artists. I always had the idea that Prince never really cared enough about his catalog to mess with it to that extent. That whole "don't look back to the past" thing he had going on. But with the WB deal, he did say a lot of the remasters were done.


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If the reissues are remastered, then even without bonus tracks, I'd buy stuff through Lovesexy, because after that (or soon after?) he was on DAT anyway. I mean, how much more does something like Come or The Gold Experience need in remastering or cleaning up? They're already ear piercing when the high end on your HiFi isn't adjusted a tad down.


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Also, I'd read that part of the WB remaster deal was that if Prince ever died, that his WB catalog stuff would revert back to WB, so they could handle that stuff. We'll see. I just hope they do it right, because if anyone knows a fan's need, it has to be WB, especially in this day and age with communication being so direct, and fan outcry being loud and clear.



TGE could REALLY use a good remastering AND a good remixing. Talk about brickwalled and piercing!
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Reply #15 posted 05/01/16 10:32am

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I picked up For You original vinyl a couple years ago for $8. I remember as a kid I bought Prince for €4 in Majorca. Those both play really well. I don't know whether I need the Reissues or not. I just ordered Black album and Graffiti Bridge but do I really need another Parade record, I can't decide. I guess Reissues on the rare albums is a really good thing
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Reply #16 posted 05/01/16 12:19pm

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The last Prince vinyl I bought cost $7.99 and the cd was $19.99 now the vinyl is $34.00. But its coming back and the small mom and pops record stores will profit. I don't know if I will buy any new vinyl. I have to see what they have but I was told by the store I bought Phast 2 at that is would be in somsetime next week.

I never thought vinyl would cost more than a cd.

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Reply #17 posted 05/01/16 12:32pm

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I'd really prefer they weren't Remasters. Part of the reason people think vinyl sounds better than CD (technically, it's actually worse) is because vinyl is usually sourced off the original master tapes and not the shitty remasters they've done to a lot of stuff from the 80s and earlier for CDs and itunes (vinyl often can't handle the newer remasters anyway, luckily). I'd much prefer something that hasn't been digitally stomped on and compressed to shit.

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Reply #18 posted 05/01/16 2:19pm

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I tend to agree. I remember over 10 years ago someone was interviewing Prince, and the idea of remasters came up. Prince said something like "Yeah, I'm wondering why they're not remastered yet either". This was the early aughts when remastering was really catching fire with different artists. I always had the idea that Prince never really cared enough about his catalog to mess with it to that extent. That whole "don't look back to the past" thing he had going on. But with the WB deal, he did say a lot of the remasters were done.

.

If the reissues are remastered, then even without bonus tracks, I'd buy stuff through Lovesexy, because after that (or soon after?) he was on DAT anyway. I mean, how much more does something like Come or The Gold Experience need in remastering or cleaning up? They're already ear piercing when the high end on your HiFi isn't adjusted a tad down.

.

Also, I'd read that part of the WB remaster deal was that if Prince ever died, that his WB catalog stuff would revert back to WB, so they could handle that stuff. We'll see. I just hope they do it right, because if anyone knows a fan's need, it has to be WB, especially in this day and age with communication being so direct, and fan outcry being loud and clear.

TGE could REALLY use a good remastering AND a good remixing. Talk about brickwalled and piercing! [Edited 5/1/16 10:25am]

It is the mastering, done by Brian Gardner. The mixes were fine. 3121 is even worse!

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keenly said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

TrivialPursuit said: TGE could REALLY use a good remastering AND a good remixing. Talk about brickwalled and piercing! [Edited 5/1/16 10:25am]

It is the mastering, done by Brian Gardner. The mixes were fine. 3121 is even worse!

We'll have to agree to disagree on the mixes, but I think they are bad. The guitars on most songs are too low, the keyboards too loud, sound effects too. That may have been what he was going for but......

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Reply #20 posted 05/02/16 4:41am

DiscoBallz

This has probably been discussed before, but I wonder how nice those remasters sound. My big gripe with ATWIAD is that the drums sound hollow and thin and I've heard outtakes of those very same album tracks where the drums kick hard and sound deeper like 1999-PR.

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Reply #21 posted 05/02/16 6:10am

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

keenly said:

It is the mastering, done by Brian Gardner. The mixes were fine. 3121 is even worse!

We'll have to agree to disagree on the mixes, but I think they are bad. The guitars on most songs are too low, the keyboards too loud, sound effects too. That may have been what he was going for but......

I find that on most Prince albums unfortunately!

Even Purple Rain has the guitar low, strings slightly louder.

I was refering to the compression. I would love all of his catalog to be remixed and remastered by Steven Wilson, but mostly likely we will just get compressed remasters than Prince already approved.

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Reply #22 posted 05/02/16 8:00am

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keenly said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

We'll have to agree to disagree on the mixes, but I think they are bad. The guitars on most songs are too low, the keyboards too loud, sound effects too. That may have been what he was going for but......

I find that on most Prince albums unfortunately!

Even Purple Rain has the guitar low, strings slightly louder.

I was refering to the compression. I would love all of his catalog to be remixed and remastered by Steven Wilson, but mostly likely we will just get compressed remasters than Prince already approved.

Ahhhh, a fellow Steven Wilson fan! Absolutley he should do it, specifically Sign O The Times since he has an affinity for it. A 5.1 version would be amazing!
I haven't found the vinyl remasters released so far to be compressed, so we may just be good on that front.

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