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Becasue it isn't proven. Duh.

beacheemom said:

beacheemom said:

I can't seem to find it now but I listened to a video on YouTube where Damaris was at a radio station and prank called Prince one morning and actually woke him up. He had said he had been battling a cold. I'm not sure on the date of the video, maybe sometime in 2014?

2012. I saw that too, It made me wonder how often Prince said he was battling a cold over the years and might there be a connection.

If it was aids/hiv the ex women would be in a news conf with gloria (all)ready.

Superfan1984 said:

Should this guy be giving these details?

I agree. I think anyone who worked for him needs to respect confidentiality.

There is also the fact that newspapers totally make up any old rubbish to make a story. Personally, I am only believing anything that I see on video where I can clearly hear another persons voice for myself, as this will more likely be true than anything written down.

I also think because he was such a private person, there's a kind of hateful media campaign going on right now to smear his name & give a sense of control to the media over him.

perfume said:

Umm this chef needs to shut up, already.

No, he really doesn't. He's done nothing wrong and I was glad to hae the information. Maybe you jsut need to stop reading things.

SoulAlive said:

CynicKill said:

The bigger elephant to me is (and I know this will possibly be controversdial) did Prince die for us?

I remember reading an article with Courtney Love and she was talking about being apprehensive about touring again because american audiences demanded that you give your life onstage.

When I look at how Michael Jackson worked himself into debilitation with those crazy tours and how Prince really went above and beyond when he really should've retired from touring maybe decades ago, I always wonder why, when the pain started, they didn't just take care of themselves and say enough.

Like I said before when I saw Prince he was dancing on a piano only to jump off it into a split and pop back up as if he were walking to the mailbox. I was like DAMN but I also knew it would come back to bite him one day.

You bring up a good point.Prince and Michael Jackson worked so hard to please their fans,but now I kinda wish that,if they were in so much physical pain,they had retired from live performances/concerts.I know it's crazy to say that but ,their lives are more important than concerts.We would rather just have them here on Earth,still alive! I don't want any of my favorite artists to kill themselves trying to please me!

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I'm glad you've said this. I was thinking the same thing and that's why it really angered me to read Eric & Alan Leeds' tribute to Prince. I found it very disrespectful to talk about not being able to imagine him getting old & that it was probably his time. It's so ageist & hello, what about Stevie Wonder, Paul McCartney, Ringo etc? Would you say that about these talented people? Life is precious. It would have been great to see him as an old man in the world. One of our downfalls in our culture is putting a limitation on a person due to their age & I reject that non sense.

Roberts last saw Prince the evening before the musician was found dead at Paisley Park. He cooked Prince a roasted red pepper bisque with a kale and spring vegetable salad. But Prince never ate it. When he returned to the musician's studio home for his memorial service a few days later, Roberts found it in the refrigerator - just as he'd left it.

This part though!

endiadj said:

I find it so disheartening that this man who was so notoriously private about his personal life is now having that personal life ripped to shreds in the wake of his death. It makes me sad that he went out like this.

Whatever his health, I hope he felt and accepted the love that surrounded him.

His intense need for privacy spoke volumes about his fear of the public.

Sadly, that fear was/is clearly justified.

FUNKNROLL said:

endiadj said:

I find it so disheartening that this man who was so notoriously private about his personal life is now having that personal life ripped to shreds in the wake of his death. It makes me sad that he went out like this.

Whatever his health, I hope he felt and accepted the love that surrounded him.

His intense need for privacy spoke volumes about his fear of the public.

Sadly, that fear was/is clearly justified.

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You know, I think the last couple of weeks, before he transcended, he did feel that love. Everyone was pouring out prayers and love to him when he cancelled the shows because of the flu. And then, when it was announced about the emergency landing, again, everyone was pouring out heartfelt sentiments to him, praying that he would get better. Most people never get to know the impact they've had on others, but those last two weeks, all the prayers, all the love, Prince had the chance to see that and know it. That does bring me some comfort.

SomewhereHereOnEarth said:

Roberts last saw Prince the evening before the musician was found dead at Paisley Park. He cooked Prince a roasted red pepper bisque with a kale and spring vegetable salad. But Prince never ate it. When he returned to the musician's studio home for his memorial service a few days later, Roberts found it in the refrigerator - just as he'd left it.

This part though!

Ugh... I find this horrible that he didn't eat it for some reason... and i wonder how telling it is in the final timeline. I wonder if this makes Roberts the last person to see Prince alive.

perfume said:

Umm this chef needs to shut up, already.

Agreed, I find it distubring the chef name drops his business in the interview. Prince hired him so he wouldn't give out details like this.

The one close-friend that keeps popping up in my head is Van Jones...I watched his CNN interview with Don Lemon...After so many interviews Van was just emotionally spent over Prince's death...I never knew they were that close....Van is a Smart & Deep Brotha and a Great Attorney...Van told Don that Prince gave him life-changing advice and they worked on projects together....Don NEVER asked Van the Million dollar question "Did you advise Prince to write a will?"......Van did say that he wish he could have been there for Prince during his time of need....My Heart went out to Van...Van Jones is proof that Prince did have Attorney/friends that he trusted....There had to be at least one conversation about protecting his legacy from Vultures...

Mintchip said:

MMJas said:

This. ^

To understand why, all you have to do is read the responses of people on this message board to the likelihood that Prince may have been a drug addict.

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Denails, caveats, insinuations of murder and conspiracy, rage (at TMZ, for telling the truth?), AIDS, anything, really, other than "he was an addict, and needed help". It's shame of what other people think - and most other people think you should be ashamed - that keeps addicts from taking responsibilty, admitting they're out of control, have a disease, and need help.

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Care to explain further? I don't think I understand what you mean.

prittypriss said:

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You know, I think the last couple of weeks, before he transcended, he did feel that love. Everyone was pouring out prayers and love to him when he cancelled the shows because of the flu. And then, when it was announced about the emergency landing, again, everyone was pouring out heartfelt sentiments to him, praying that he would get better. Most people never get to know the impact they've had on others, but those last two weeks, all the prayers, all the love, Prince had the chance to see that and know it. That does bring me some comfort.

Yes, I feel the same. A lot of us sent Prince messages, tweets, etc. after the emergency landing and I think he saw many of them. That brings me comfort. Also, it sounds like the audience for his last show in ATL was very loving, loud and supportive.

sfinky1 said:

Yes it would....It can take longer than several month.

paulludvig said:

sfinky1 said:

If he was trying to wean himself off a dependency on opiod painkillers then he would be going thru withdrawals which would appear as flu like symptoms to everyone else - feverish, loss of appetite, weakened immune system, difficulty sleeping, etc It does appear plausible he was trying to wean himself off the painkiller. Why he was trying to do it in the middle of a tour though makes no sense

For several months? Does it take that long to get off the medication?

I thought about the SUDEP however, he didn't die in his 'sleep.' If anything related to that, it could have been a prolonged seizure. I agree with all else you wrote about it below....It can come out of nowhere despite him being 'cured' long ago. As family member with epilepsy, I don't care what they tell me, it can return after decades of silence..

And yes, any change, stress, no sleep, drug, drug weaning, illness, hormones, etd can all trigger the return...

spastic78 said:

endiadj said:

but they're not giving me the "why". only autopsy/toxicology can give us those answers. what the chef is saying is leading to more speculation. that's why i said he should've kept details of his wellness to himself.

Sadly, toxicology reports nor autopsy reports will be able to determine if he died from SUDEP (sudden epileptic seizures) which accounts for the cause of death of most childhood diagnosed epileptics. Epilepsy in Prince's day was just not discussed or talked about; and plenty thought it was a curse or result of sin. Many would advocate that prayer could prevent seizures and there were very few medications choices available. Prince revealed his epilepsy in 2009 and since then it seemed like he had moments where he'd show vulnerability, reaching out to old band members etc., but then not ever fully letting himself trust anyone. Epileptics desire control for they know they have no real control over seizures -meaning after no seizures for decades a spontaneous seizure can occur triggered by a myriad of things like stress,insomnia,foods,strobe lights and other medications. The worry of thwarting a seizure can prompt anti-social type behaviors, depression and spur of the moment changes etc. Yet pain med withdrawal symptoms also include seizures, weight loss, flu-like symptoms,and shakes etc. We will just never know...and maybe that's how Prince wanted it...maybe he crawled to the elevator so he could be found there..did he know? Doubtful. He was a man accustomed to beating the odds...hope he has peace now.

Also...I thought of this:

Even if it has anything to do with seiuzres, often, the report will come back as something else. They hardly say the death was a seizure related death.

spastic78 said:

endiadj said: Sadly, toxicology reports nor autopsy reports will be able to determine if he died from SUDEP (sudden epileptic seizures) which accounts for the cause of death of most childhood diagnosed epileptics. Epilepsy in Prince's day was just not discussed or talked about; and plenty thought it was a curse or result of sin. Many would advocate that prayer could prevent seizures and there were very few medications choices available. Prince revealed his epilepsy in 2009 and since then it seemed like he had moments where he'd show vulnerability, reaching out to old band members etc., but then not ever fully letting himself trust anyone. Epileptics desire control for they know they have no real control over seizures -meaning after no seizures for decades a spontaneous seizure can occur triggered by a myriad of things like stress,insomnia,foods,strobe lights and other medications. The worry of thwarting a seizure can prompt anti-social type behaviors, depression and spur of the moment changes etc. Yet pain med withdrawal symptoms also include seizures, weight loss, flu-like symptoms,and shakes etc. We will just never know...and maybe that's how Prince wanted it...maybe he crawled to the elevator so he could be found there..did he know? Doubtful. He was a man accustomed to beating the odds...hope he has peace now.

nursev said:

So when will we be able to talk rationally about the elephant in the room that is AIDS? I know it hurts to see all these stories, but it is a possibility

why AIDS?

There are so many other terminal illness or issues that could have caused his death.
Why AIDS? why that conclusion?

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

nursev said:

So when will we be able to talk rationally about the elephant in the room that is AIDS? I know it hurts to see all these stories, but it is a possibility

why AIDS?

There are so many other terminal illness or issues that could have caused his death.
Why AIDS? why that conclusion?

Good question. Nurse and others keep assuming the wrong thing. Right now some of us just don't see the point in going around and around for the umteenth time, that's all. It isn't a matter of hurt or denial.

Being that we still have no official report, It's confusing the way people are insisting that we all have to engage in endless speculation. Why is it a problem that some people would rather wait until we hear some official word before deciding what to believe? Right now people are just regurgitating their theories on multiple threads over and over and seem offended if they don't get some brownie points for their personal POV.

Whoever turns out to be right won't change anything whether we find out today or next month. We're conditioned to want instant answers in this day and age and when that's not the case people start getting antsy and begin to agitate.

It's like that experiment they did a while back to see how long people could sit silently without feeling compelled to fill the silence with some kind of chatter. We are all itching to know what went down but at this point it has become an extremely repetitve and redundant discussion since we still don't have the facts from the ME or the Sheriff.

babynoz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

why AIDS?

There are so many other terminal illness or issues that could have caused his death.
Why AIDS? why that conclusion?

Good question. Nurse and others keep assuming the wrong thing. Right now some of us just don't see the point in going around and around for the umteenth time, that's all. It isn't a matter of hurt or denial.

Being that we still have no official report, It's confusing the way people are insisting that we all have to engage in endless speculation. Why is it a problem that some people would rather wait until we hear some official word before deciding what to believe? Right now people are just regurgitating their theories on multiple threads over and over and seem offended if they don't get some brownie points for their personal POV.

Whoever turns out to be right won't change anything whether we find out today or next month. We're conditioned to want instant answers in this day and age and when that's not the case people start getting antsy and begin to agitate.

It's like that experiment they did a while back to see how long people could sit silently without feeling compelled to fill the silence with some kind of chatter. We are all itching to know what went down but at this point it has become an extremely repetitve and redundant discussion since we still don't have the facts from the ME or the Sheriff.

You make a lot of valid points here. Perphaps we are, indeed, just trying to fill the void while waiting.