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20ten - prince wanted to pull it last minute? In the souvenir tribute the Mirror put together there is an interesting tidbit in one of the articles. The writer was a journalist for the Mirror who was invited to Paisley Park so the main article describes this, but it ends as follows: 'A few days later, on returning to London, I got a clearer idea of why he had managed to fall out with so many people in the entertainment industry. Prince, who was renowned as a perfectionist, tried to force us to scrap the album - apparently because he had gone off one of the tracks - but the cds had already been pressed and we had watertight contracts.' So 20ten was almost a second black album! Which song do you think prince had a change of heart over? Everybody loves me? Never heard this info before, it may explain why 20ten never got a USA release. | |
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interesting he didn't want on there anymore. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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Except that he mentioned a deluxe edition was coming after the cover mount was released, so, this doesn't quite make sense to me... Liberty > Authority | |
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And next thing u know he wanted to release 20ten Deluxe... Hard to say what happened but the record was released by so many different magazines I think it may have been an issue P had with the Mirror rather than with the album itself? Thing is we have a shitload of stories about the first 10 to 15 years because musicians and engineers and other collaborators spoke, while later they were stuck by confidentiality agreements. Now anyone can speak and hopefully the next few years will see an amazing amount of information and stories appearing in regards to P's later career. Imagine getting as much info about 1996-2016 sessions as we do about 1978-1995 (and already there's less data when it comes to the early 90's). A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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It's a pity he couldn't have pulled it. With the exception of Future Soul Song which I don't mind, the rest of the album is appalling. I rate 20Ten as possibly being the worst album Prince ever released in his career. | |
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Fun analogy, but let's remember that Prince pulled The Black Album because he thought it was evil, he saw God, and had a spiritual experience that led him to black its release, and then record Lovesexy. To want to pull one song off of 20Ten seems a bit different. Apples and oranges I suppose. But I do wonder which song he didn't want on there. I don't quite go with the "Everybody Loves Me", because he's had braggadocio songs before ("Cream"). . "Laydown" is a gem. Let's hope it's not that one. . By the way, if you take out the lyrics on "Lavaux", the basics of that track sounds like a Time track. The synths, the bass, the guitar. " ![]() | |
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Except TBA is great and 20Ten sounds like half a dozen stones in a cement mixer. | |
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DFUNK said: It's a pity he couldn't have pulled it. With the exception of Future Soul Song which I don't mind, the rest of the album is appalling. I rate 20Ten as possibly being the worst album Prince ever released in his career.
I knew somebody was going to say that! I am glad he didn't pull it! It's a much better album than people give it credit for. I'd much rather listen 20Ten than to D&P, Batman, Planet Earth, MPLSound, GB, NPS... No, 20Ten ain't so bad... Not at all... [Edited 5/1/16 8:40am] | |
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used to think 20ten was his worst album. about 2 years ago it finally clicked with me. glad it did | |
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First: 2010 is a really good album. I still play most of it. Especially Sticky Like Glue. Second: I want to know which track he fell off of! I wish u heaven | |
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I was playing this record a lot yesterday, and I still really like it. Not a bad song in the bunch. Yes, even Everybody Loves Me, which I now picture him singing from beyond. "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." | |
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B) He played it on Lopez Liberty > Authority | |
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Future Soul Song has been on repeat for me. It's taken on new meaning for me with his loss. I've definitely shed a few tears of late. "So fierce U look 2night, the brightest star pales 2 Ur sex..." | |
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I thought that this and Planet Earth had great opening sequences of songs, then lost the vibe past the halfway point, but that's not to say I didn't like some tracks in the latte rhalfs of the albums.
I love when he throws in a song to bug like "Everybody Loves Me". I used this once as a temp song for the end credits to a comedy movie some high schoolers made called "Bindlestiffs"...
that was then got bought for distibution by Kevin Smith... who made an entire documentary on Prince and Rainbow Children that's in the vault...
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According to some sources, Lavaux is based on an unknown, uncirculating early 80's outtake. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Some sources, unknown, uncirculating... Not very reliable information there, Mr. Data! ![]() | |
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Should'a pulled the last two. All you others say Hell Yea!! ![]() | |
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20Ten *should have* been great since it was an unabashed return to his classic era. The songs just aren't there. I've tried so hard to like it. I have it on right now. | |
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Well at least it seems to be heavily based on the Pointer Sister's 'Automatic. Very catchy tune though!
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According to some sources, Lavaux is based on an unknown, uncirculating early 80's outtake. [Edited 5/1/16 13:45pm] | |
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and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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20Ten is atrocious. | |
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I like 20TEN a lot & rate it as one of his most interesting post-1993 records, along with The Undertaker, TV:OFfS, and The Rainbow Children. .
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OMG I never picked up on that, and "Automatic" was one of my favorite songs from the girls.
That would make great sense. It certainly has that sensibility. It makes me think it's what The Time would sound like today, if Prince produced them again. (Although Condensate is killer on their own.) " ![]() | |
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Notwithstanding one or two good songs, 20Ten is best forgotten. Come to think of it, I can't seem to locate my copy. [Edited 5/1/16 15:47pm] | |
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It's an interesting album for sure. Possibly a rarity in days to come. | |
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there were about 15 tracks he was jumping between, walk in the sand could have been replaced with another track, the tracklisting was finalised very late. he wanted to re-arrange the tracklist but the cd sleeves had been printed and he was in danger of serious breach of contract. rich friends was on the album until the last minute before it was replaced with Beggining endlessly | |
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and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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I've never heard of "Rich Friends". . I put "Cause and Effect" before "Compassion", and "Hot Summer" before "Laydown". They work well in there. " ![]() | |
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Was it only One song that he didn't want 2 release or the whole cd?
Can i purchase 20Ten online? You and me are like two ships passing
Never reaching shore If we ever, ooh, if we ever did We'd just want more | |
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