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Opioids epidemic http://www.mprnews.org/st...-test-prep One of the most important things stated here, in my opinion, is that legal drugs are just the same as illegal ones. Fighting the use of illegal drugs and making them avalable in pharmacies with another name to me means people are legally being turned into drug addicts. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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This might be a bit controversial but it's my opinion on the matter:
It's not the Opioids themselves that are the problem. They can be very therapeutic. The epidemic is how the Doctors are giving the prescribees the directions, telling them how to take them and not describing things such as Side effects, ignoring possible Contraindications, ignoring and most of the time prescribing other drugs that could interact. Not doing allergy tests...its all the doctors fault on most cases.
Yes, a persons mindset if they are set on drugs will abuse...but it is always the doctors responsibility if they prescribe a narcotic to actually pay attention and...you know where I'm getting at.
My mom's lucky to have a caring doctor that cares for her and checks up on what medications she is prescribed, etc... Purple Music is my drug and I'm jonesin!!!!! | |
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purplemajesty23 said: This might be a bit controversial but it's my opinion on the matter:
It's not the Opioids themselves that are the problem. They can be very therapeutic. The epidemic is how the Doctors are giving the prescribees the directions, telling them how to take them and not describing things such as Side effects, ignoring possible Contraindications, ignoring and most of the time prescribing other drugs that could interact. Not doing allergy tests...its all the doctors fault on most cases.
Yes, a persons mindset if they are set on drugs will abuse...but it is always the doctors responsibility if they prescribe a narcotic to actually pay attention and...you know where I'm getting at.
My mom's lucky to have a caring doctor that cares for her and checks up on what medications she is prescribed, etc... Exactly. I once saw a "Ted" where a physician studied the interaction between anti-depressant and anti-cholesterol meds, which are often taken together (depressed people often turn into junk food), and found out that this combination caused hiperglychemia. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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Doctors are mostly just drug pushers.
Big Pharma is FAR MORE dangerous than any terrorist group. | |
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keenly said: Doctors are mostly just drug pushers.
Big Pharma is FAR MORE dangerous than any terrorist group. Yes they are. And they're legal. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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All drugs are bad. It's as simple as that. . It angers me that drugs are promoted as cool. . All drugs should be strickly controlled, whether they be recreational or medicimal. . I hardly ever take any drug - if I have a headache, I solve the cause - I don't take drugs. . People pop pills way to easy these days. .
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I think this is an impossible argument and I can see both sides. On one hand, opioids are essential and basically a life saver to people in severe pain who would otherwise be existing in a nightmare situation. I had an elderly relative whose end of life would have been one of terrible suffering without these medications,so I'm thankful for them. On the other hand, their addictive quality means that even when they taken for pain, it can all rapidly grow out of control and one pain problem is swapped for a host of others. Medication interaction with other medication is another problem to add to the mix. It seems in the U.S. More than here in the UK that it's easy to see different doctors and be prescribed things by various people. And I guess, if you have the money and the fame then it's easy to get anything you want to. But how have we got into a situation where so many people end up hooked on these things and what is the answer? More regulation? But how enforceable is it and what are the consequences for people in genuine pain who would have no quality of life without them. I don't know. I wish I did. I feel for anyone who has an addiction, and no matter what the truth of Prince's passing, maybe some people with a dependency problem will seek help because of this. | |
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It truly is an epidemic. We almost lost my father to an accidental opioid od. Had his wife not been there to immediately call 911 (thankfully he vomited which tipped her off), he would have died. As it was, he spent 3 months on a ventilator in the ICU and another 6 months in a physical therapy rehab. Amazingly, he's fully recovered. But he would have died had he been alone. And it was just a couple of pills over his normal dose - he'd forgotten when he'd taken thr last ones. Just like that and he was almost gone. | |
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gigilamorosa said: It truly is an epidemic. We almost lost my father to an accidental opioid od. Had his wife not been there to immediately call 911 (thankfully he vomited which tipped her off), he would have died. As it was, he spent 3 months on a ventilator in the ICU and another 6 months in a physical therapy rehab. Amazingly, he's fully recovered. But he would have died had he been alone. And it was just a couple of pills over his normal dose - he'd forgotten when he'd taken thr last ones. Just like that and he was almost gone. Jesus! I am glad he recovered. It must have been a nightmare. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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http://www.startribune.co...377532331/ And here's another article...apparently, now that so many ppl are opioids dependent, and could die of od, you could get naxolone without a prescription. Is this the solution? This is just plain crazy. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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rightbluecheek said: gigilamorosa said: It truly is an epidemic. We almost lost my father to an accidental opioid od. Had his wife not been there to immediately call 911 (thankfully he vomited which tipped her off), he would have died. As it was, he spent 3 months on a ventilator in the ICU and another 6 months in a physical therapy rehab. Amazingly, he's fully recovered. But he would have died had he been alone. And it was just a couple of pills over his normal dose - he'd forgotten when he'd taken thr last ones. Just like that and he was almost gone. Jesus! I am glad he recovered. It must have been a nightmare. Thank you - it was just awful. Strangely, my father is a prolific musician and was touring for most of my life - I do think he sometimes used these drugs to "turn off" - something he's struggled with immensely. I just know that these drugs are very easy to od on, even if you don't have a "typical" addiction. You know, I was almost hoping Prince *did* have a terminal illness so that his death would have been unavoidable- the tragedy of it will be deepened if the cause was preventable. | |
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gigilamorosa said: rightbluecheek said: Jesus! I am glad he recovered. It must have been a nightmare. Thank you - it was just awful. Strangely, my father is a prolific musician and was touring for most of my life - I do think he sometimes used these drugs to "turn off" - something he's struggled with immensely. I just know that these drugs are very easy to od on, even if you don't have a "typical" addiction. You know, I was almost hoping Prince *did* have a terminal illness so that his death would have been unavoidable- the tragedy of it will be deepened if the cause was preventable. I know...we will see the toxicology report. Thanks for sharing this episode. Peace. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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Excellent post. I've worked on this issue at the federal level from a regulatory angle (I can't say more), and you touched on the right points here. ZARIA7ETAN said: I think this is an impossible argument and I can see both sides. On one hand, opioids are essential and basically a life saver to people in severe pain who would otherwise be existing in a nightmare situation. I had an elderly relative whose end of life would have been one of terrible suffering without these medications,so I'm thankful for them. On the other hand, their addictive quality means that even when they taken for pain, it can all rapidly grow out of control and one pain problem is swapped for a host of others. Medication interaction with other medication is another problem to add to the mix. It seems in the U.S. More than here in the UK that it's easy to see different doctors and be prescribed things by various people. And I guess, if you have the money and the fame then it's easy to get anything you want to. But how have we got into a situation where so many people end up hooked on these things and what is the answer? More regulation? But how enforceable is it and what are the consequences for people in genuine pain who would have no quality of life without them. I don't know. I wish I did. I feel for anyone who has an addiction, and no matter what the truth of Prince's passing, maybe some people with a dependency problem will seek help because of this. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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ZARIA7ETAN said: I think this is an impossible argument and I can see both sides. On one hand, opioids are essential and basically a life saver to people in severe pain who would otherwise be existing in a nightmare situation. I had an elderly relative whose end of life would have been one of terrible suffering without these medications,so I'm thankful for them. On the other hand, their addictive quality means that even when they taken for pain, it can all rapidly grow out of control and one pain problem is swapped for a host of others. Medication interaction with other medication is another problem to add to the mix. It seems in the U.S. More than here in the UK that it's easy to see different doctors and be prescribed things by various people. And I guess, if you have the money and the fame then it's easy to get anything you want to. But how have we got into a situation where so many people end up hooked on these things and what is the answer? More regulation? But how enforceable is it and what are the consequences for people in genuine pain who would have no quality of life without them. I don't know. I wish I did. I feel for anyone who has an addiction, and no matter what the truth of Prince's passing, maybe some people with a dependency problem will seek help because of this. That's right, this is definitely not an easy subject. I totally agree with what you say, and I hope if this is the case, as it seems, will help other people seek for the right advice. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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Nonsense.
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Clinton is set to address this issue in the upcoming Parliament album to be released this fall, Medicaid Fraud Dog. The concept is loosely based around the hypocrisy of big pharma. The chorus to the title track is "the drugs I get over the counter are worse than the ones I get under the table". If any of this stuff about P holds any validity the record becomes all the more urgent. Somebody has got to keep dialog about these insidious pills. | |
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I have a chronic pain condition which helped me develop a tidy(to put it lightly) addiction to pain killers. I've discussed this at the org before. It's something I still struggle with.
What I don't understand is what seems to me to be the ungodly amounts of pills one would have to through to die. On one occasion I OD'd but that was prescribed methadone, not percocet. No one has EVER spoken of seeing Prince sloppy or slurry or not with it outside of the baby incident and the MJ/JB vide(that was photoshopped...). If this is something he's been going through for 5 or 6 years, someone would noticed something. My friends, not necessarily my family sure did...the people around me. Either his addiction is fairly recent...last month or so or he wasnt addicted IMO. I've gone through ungodly amounts of percs and vics and even my liver is still cool....at least for now. I'll prolly end up with liver cancer come age fifty. I've followed this man damn closely, now i ain't been in his bedroom nightly, thank god, but nothing I've seen over the last 20 years...NOTHING...says opioid addiction to me...an opioid addict. I think he happened to have painkillers on him like someone who has jumped of his share of pianos and risers in high heels should have at the age of 57, or a man with a sweet tooth and a dentist...but I suspect he died of some heart attack, pulmonary embolism, or anyeurism...something sudden... Opoid addiction or even abuse, speak to absolutely nothing I know about Prince. I know more about this man than I do my own brother...but not everything...I know. I'm not speaking out of blind fan rage or anger. I'm being as objective as I can and from of a position of some self knowledge(no, not all knowing) about addiction and abuse. [Edited 4/30/16 6:45am] | |
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I agree - drugs suck! Make hugs not drugs. . Been anti drugs and anti smoking all my life, and always looked up to Prince as an example of the clean living non drug ethos, so would be slightly disappointed, if I found out he was all about the drugs. Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name | |
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KingSausage said: Excellent post. I've worked on this issue at the federal level from a regulatory angle (I can't say more), and you touched on the right points here. ZARIA7ETAN said: I think this is an impossible argument and I can see both sides. On one hand, opioids are essential and basically a life saver to people in severe pain who would otherwise be existing in a nightmare situation. I had an elderly relative whose end of life would have been one of terrible suffering without these medications,so I'm thankful for them. On the other hand, their addictive quality means that even when they taken for pain, it can all rapidly grow out of control and one pain problem is swapped for a host of others. Medication interaction with other medication is another problem to add to the mix. It seems in the U.S. More than here in the UK that it's easy to see different doctors and be prescribed things by various people. And I guess, if you have the money and the fame then it's easy to get anything you want to. But how have we got into a situation where so many people end up hooked on these things and what is the answer? More regulation? But how enforceable is it and what are the consequences for people in genuine pain who would have no quality of life without them. I don't know. I wish I did. I feel for anyone who has an addiction, and no matter what the truth of Prince's passing, maybe some people with a dependency problem will seek help because of this. It is an excellent post... | |
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I agree with you - in my experience with my father (see above) it was very obvious when he was medicated - even on a normal dosage - it's not something you forget or mistake for something else. The stupor, the grogginess... I know that my dad couldn't play music at all during the time he was taking opioids due to the side effects.
That being said, even if this was just something Prince took at night, he could easily have taken too much of, passed out and blocked off his own airway due to position... I'm sure we'll know at some point. | |
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