Yes there are certainly some that are up there. All My Dreams leaps to mind. And Electric Intercourse and most likely quite a few others.

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But yes I agree that the Vault songs are probably a little overrated. He did mainly release is best stuff, but there are some gems in there for sure.

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FunkiestOne said:

Yes there are certainly some that are up there. All My Dreams leaps to mind. And Electric Intercourse and most likely quite a few others.

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But yes I agree that the Vault songs are probably a little overrated. He did mainly release is best stuff, but there are some gems in there for sure.

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Unless, we haven't yet heard the best stuff!?

If Crystal Ball is better than Beautiful Night, then I can't wait. Although the live version of Beautiful Night from the SOTT tour far surpasses the album version.

the music he recorded with Sheila between 1983 - 87 is what I want to hear. anytime Sheila is on the track its always something special. That Toy Box demo is killer

I would love to see a "committee" of musicians and music critics/writers to be put together to explore the contents of the vault and be involved in a controlled and considered approach to releasing material for fans.

Prince himself has said that the material in the vault consists of both finished tracks which he never found a suitable album for, right down to rough demos that he brought to a certain point and then abandoned them. It would be fair to say some of the material in the vault is poor by Prince standards and therefore should remain unreleased.

When albums are released, it should be done in a controlled and considered manner, and each album should contain music from a similar era right through so as to create coherent and consistent listening experiences.

I would also love to see 1 or 2 DVD releases of concerts. There must be some great shows from the Musicology, W2A, Hit & Run and Piano & A Microphone tours which would make for great concert DVDs for fans to enjoy.

Of the 85-87 era we're already talked, so I will not add anything.

There's a lot of wonderful tracks.

I would like instead to focus on the 1990-1991-1992 P's original versions of tunes given to other artist.
Let's try to imagine an album made up of:

- Love... Thy Will Be Done

- Open Book

- With This Tear

- Get Blue

- Yo Mister

- Miss Thang

- Allegiance

- Heaven Must Be Near

- Qualified

- If I Love U Tonight

- Martika's Kitchen

- Hold Me

It would be a wonderful album, worthy of any P's input from the 1990's.

teezee said:

Or are we overrating a little the stuff that P hasn't released

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I don't know, I've heard a couple of those songs (Moonbeam Levels, Purple Music, All My Dreams) and they're good but not THAT good. For instance, The Crystall Ball album and Old Friends 4 Sale which were previously unreleased material had some good tracks but overall they were underwhelming, in my opinion. C'mon, not everything that Prince touches turns to gold lol

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I don't want 2 listen 2 anymore leaked demos. I'd rather wait around until someone polishes all these records and releases them for the public

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Unless there are any songs i CANNOT for the love of my life miss!!

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read an interview or watched one in the haze of the last few days (maybe Larry King) and Prince said that the vault has a lot from when he was bound to WB because he would do whole albums he didn't want them to ever get their hands on and they'd wind up stashed away

mtlfan said:

I'm no expert on the Vault, but I think it's important to remember an artist might withhold tracks not because they're bad, but because they don't fit the concept, or time restrictions, or overall sequence of an album (especially back when vinyl kept a record at two 22 minute sides). For instance, I can understand why Prince didn't release the Camille record as it was - innovative as it would be, that could have really alienated listeners, whether for its gender politics or just an abundance of pitch-adjusted vocals (critics often slam albums that use the same production tricks on every track). Yet we know the individual tracks kick ass. Aren't "Extraloveable," "Lust U Always" and "Big Tall Wall"...er... controversial? That doesn't mean they're not good tracks, but maybe not something Prince wanted released at the time.

Yes I agree.

But I think even moreso the 1980s music that wasn't released was because he just had too much of it and no where to go. I think by 1982 - 1986 every album released had enough unreleased stuff that could encorporate 1-3 albums during each period.

We know that some people thing that the Bsides were songs that were not as good as the album cuts. But we know that isn't the truth, there just wasn't enough space. Or they didn't work easily within the configuration or the Bside wasn't created at the time of the album release:Irresistable Bitch, Hello, La La La He He Hee for example

So yeah I'm in total agreement with U.

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SquirrelMeat said:

Absolutely there were better outtakes than released tracks.

All My Dreams is better than Life Can Be So Nice.

Moonbeam Levels is better than Free.

Crystal Ball is Better than Its Gonna be a Beautiful Night.

Days of Wild is better than We March.

Dance With the Devil is better than half the Batman album.

Goodbye is better than Emancipation.

The list goes on.

Absolutely not! The others are arguable (plus many I haven't heard) but no way Crystal Ball is better than anything on SOTT

The song is a mess, and not in a good way

And 'Its Gonna Be A Beautiful Night' is my favorite P live jam.

However, there are several songs on the outtakes album "Crystal Ball" that are jammin' Acknowledge Me, Ripopgodezippa, Crucial, among others

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Well it seems U answered your own question. 1. (plus many U haven't heard) 2. your talking about your own taste, not if a song is actually good.
Crystal Ball vs IGBABN are 2 different types of songs. the 2nd one is a live in concert recorded song from the Parade tour. I love both. But I can also say that Crystal Ball (which would initially be on an album called the Dream Factory along with SOTT the Ballad of Dorothy Parker Starfish & Coffee It Slow Love Forever In My Life Strange Relationship ICNTTPOYM the Cross If I Was Your Girlfriend

you would have the same affection for Crystal Ball as the others. I love Crystal Ball. It's a musical trip. like Positivity.

One album sessions I would love 2 have outtakes from is Rainbow Children.
That is the one album that have a concept and cohesive flow more than most of the 90s and 2000s combined. And I love the music.

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These are just the ones I can pull out of memory

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But an album of the Demos 4 U:

Leaving 4 New York

Don't U Wanna Ride
Rock Me Lover
Nightingale
Just As Long As We're Together
JellyJam

Darling Marie

I Like What Your Doing

Neurotic Lover's Baby's Bedroom

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the Loring Park Sessions w/Prince Bobby Z Andre Cymone

the Prince/Chris Moon sessions
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I'm Leaving LA
I Met A Virgin Queen

So Blue
Make It Through the Storm
We Can Work It Out
Baby
Donna
My Love Is Forever
Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me

Down A Long Lonely Road

I Miss U
Baby, Baby, Baby
Naderea
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Disco Away
Lisa

American Jam
Big Brass Bed
Bulgaria
Eros
(the Rebel Session)

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Colleen

Tick Tick Bang
Kiss Me Quick

Broken
Do Yourself A Favour

Strange Way of Saying I Love U
No Call U

Turn It Up

Purple Music
Moonbeam Levels

Extralovable
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Wonderful Ass
Lust U Always
Cold Coffee & Coccaine
Vibrator
Wet Dream Cousin

Electric Intercourse
G-Spot

Fathers Song
Traffic Jam

Our Destiny
Roadhouse Garden

Wednesday

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My Love Belongs 2 U
My Summertime Thang
Velvet Kitty Kat

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Feline
Miss Understood

God Is Everywhere

Go
Adonis & Bathsheba
Splash *

Cosmic Day

Come Electra Tuesday

Killin At the Soda Shop

Married Man
Polka Dot Tiger
Zebra With the Blonde Hair

She Pony

Can I Play With U?

The Question of U?

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It's A Wonderful Day
Others Here With Us
Old Friends 4 Sale
Heaven
In All My Dreams
An Honest Man *
U Gotta Shake Something
Junk Music #1 #2
Up From Below
Ya'll Want More
A Couple of Miles

Madrid
Tibet
Eternity
Empty Room

Euphoria Highway

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In A Large Room With No Light
Power Fantastic *

Crystal Ball
Teacher Teacher

Girl O My Dreams
Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
We Can Funk
Data Bank
Big Tall Wall
Train
Sexual Suicide
Witness 4 the Prosecution 1 & 2
Movie Star *
Last Heart *
Dream Factory
Love & Sex
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the Sex of It *

Crucial

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Fuschia Light

People Without
the Line
God Is Alive

We Got the Power

Cookie Jar

The Voice Inside

17(Penetration)

18(R U Legal Yet?)
19(A Girl & Her Puppy)

20(Jailbait)
By Alien Means

An American in Paris

Back when he released Crystal Ball and Old Friends 4 Sale, there had to have been notes of what other songs in the vault he wanted to include.

There's also the fact that he recorded demos with the intent that someone else was going to sing them, as well as mentioning he had full albums that he hadn't released.

This isn't even getting into alternate versions that might be even better than what he officially released.

A lot of times tape was rolling and they were jams he was trying to get ideas from. I bet when people listen to them now, they're going to recognize bits and pieces of songs in the jams. There's probably notes left in the reel tapes and various storage media by engineers, mixers, and by Prince that they have to go through.

Even if it had, I dont think most fans would appreciate it. All these albums have a mistique, they are classics

And I dont know if somebody would put cohesive albums out as they were. It´s more likely that we will have stuff like Crystal Ball, with songs from all eras mixed