McD said:

babynoz said:

I think it's weird that somebody would even make a thread suggesting that all other news sources should be ignored?

Certain news outlets are running constant articles on this tragedy. Which one, other than TMZ, are you backing for your new info? None? Right. People, exactly what standard of proof are you seriously suggesting a website provide to convince you he went to Walgreens four times in a week? It's obvious it came from their staff. As to why he went in himself, barring US law I know nothing about, plenty answers suggest themselves. What is this story as a news event WITHOUT TMZ? That's right, it's our beloved Prince being found dead at Paisley Park out of the blue and no one knowing anything, and an autopsy being similarly factless. If you think it's open season now, imagine this situation minus TMZ!!! Not only are you flailing in the dark right now confused beyond belief, but you would have absolutely nothing to arm yourself against AIDS or murder theories. The one story I didn't want to believe, Prince as a lifelong cocaine addict (it would ruin Purple Music if nothing else) was a story I wasn't convinced even THEY believed. And what did they do? State their sources by name. Name their sources' sources. And tell you plenty of people claim it's BS. Yes, it's a gossip site, yes, I'm sure they use underhand methods. But to a (British) outsider with no interest in them, it's blatantly obvious they are the only news service with a) the actual goods and b) a reliability factor. It's TMZ, or The Daily Mail, The Daily Star, or the Enquirer, or knowing absolutely nothing and being in an even bigger limbo than we all already are. All I'm saying is TMZ is the best of those options. And we can all use our personal judgement given how this thing has gone down on what we think is true. Do I believe anything the other sources have said? No, not one single bloody thing. Not one. Do I believe all the TMZ stories. Yes. All of them. Every one. And to recap, their cocaine story was both double-sided but, by naming the sources entirely, it's also a real story either way as the story was identifying people in the camp and stating their claims. (But yes, if I was them, I wouldn't have used it at all at this stage - hey ho). Plane OD, Perocet, Walgreens, a six year battle with severe hip problems... I believe it all. And let me just say something else out loud here that I feel bad about... That plane story from TMZ. This could have been one hell of a wake up call for our beloved Prince. Indeed, I truly wish they'd gone out even stronger on day one. Called it an OD on prescription meds, said he almost died. Maybe then, just maybe, Prince would be too frightened or embarrassed to walk into Walgreens (I don't care which) and could still be with us today. I started the thread because it DOES seem like a ridiculous stance to back TMZ given what they are. But this event is so much better with them in it, than not. And they are a buffer against the REAL CRAP being said elsewhere. And they might have, just might have, saved the day by exposing his issues when they did. Alas... [Edited 4/28/16 2:39am]

Good for you.

They made a headline from claims coming from Duane and Lorna, both deceased, and probably drug users themselves, given Tyka's history. Yeah, such reliable sources.

They make a "Brother Surfaces!" (http://www.tmz.com/2016/0...ill-judge/), with just a final phrase about some half-brother showing up.

Yeah, these are fucking professional journalists, alright.

You're pathetic if you don't think they're in it just for the money.

If this was a paper magazine, I'd subscribe, wipe my ass with every issue for a whole year, and send them all back to their headquarters by Fedex.

babynoz said:

Arunas said:

I laugh at these anti-tmz people out here, the reasons tmz give for his death are totally valid.

A 57 year old doesn't simply die just like that... without any prior signs of weakness, which he did not show during his last shows.

There are only a couple of this that cause people to "just die" out of the blue:

1) A terminal ilness would have him chained to his bed weeks before the final call, so if he did have one, it was not at the last stages. But if he did have on, and he stopped taking medicine for it(namely aids) and got a "flu", death from from complications is very plausible.

2) He suffered from pain, the only way to battle this is pain meds, h e is not an "average" person like you and I, so he can get access to some stronger meds, which, if not dosed carefully, cause respiratory complications and you are gone.

You anti-tmz people have any other more plausible choices? Let me hear em, I'd sure like to see what you think.

Choices of what exactly? Your speculation, theory and conjecture is no more or less valid than anybody else's. I laugh at people who actually think they are entitled to make any choices in the matter to begin with.

He is gone. The reality is that what I think I know or what you think you know or what TMZ thinks is of no consequence. Why should I rack up $$$ for TMZ with my clicks on their website so they can pay more corrupt people to give them intrusive information? How does that change anything for the better???

Choices of cause of death. They don't believe drugs were at cause. I'm asking then- what's left then?

http://www.fox9.com/news/...9772-story


CHASKA, Minn. (KMSP) - Several national news organizations have reported that prescription drugs were found with Prince when he was found dead in his Paisley Park home last Thursday, April 21. ABC News, CBS News, NBC News and CNN cited unidentified law enforcement sources in reporting that prescription painkillers were found at Paisley Park and on Prince himself.

Fox 9 spoke to Carver County Chief Deputy Jason Kamerud on Wednesday. He said those reports were news to him and confirmed the sheriff’s office has not yet asked for the DEA’s help with the investigation. He added that the DEA is not part of the active investigation at this time.

Final autopsy results are expected to take about 3 weeks.




All of the above mentioned outlets got the Rx drug and DEA information from guess who? However an actual named spokesperson from the sheriff's office is saying otherwise. Not an un-named source, but Carver County Deputy Jason Kamerud.

Wait. Until. The. Investigation. Is. Complete. Before. Jumping. To. Conclusions.


I'm just sayin'.

Identity said:

JasminMaria said:

TMZ belongs to Warner. Just sayin'.

To clarify, TMZ, WB Records, CNN, TBS, TimeWarner Cable, Time magazine, People magazine, Sports Illustrated, Entertainment Weekly, DC Comics, HBO, and Warner Bros Pictures are all subsidiaries of TimeWarner, Inc.

Why would a multi-billion conglomerate have an axe to grind with Prince?

[Edited 4/28/16 10:14am]

Probably because he was signed to Warners during his peak commercial period. He's a cash cow to them, even more so now that he's gone (not saying that's cool, but it's the reality.) They have no incentive to besmirch his image, although they may want to keep his name in the media for a while.

But really subsidiaries like this hardly ever get along with other arms of the same company, and I seriously doubt Time Warner execs are taking time out of their day to micromanage TMZ news stories.

Arunas said:

babynoz said:

Choices of what exactly? Your speculation, theory and conjecture is no more or less valid than anybody else's. I laugh at people who actually think they are entitled to make any choices in the matter to begin with.

He is gone. The reality is that what I think I know or what you think you know or what TMZ thinks is of no consequence. Why should I rack up $$$ for TMZ with my clicks on their website so they can pay more corrupt people to give them intrusive information? How does that change anything for the better???

Choices of cause of death. They don't believe drugs were at cause. I'm asking then- what's left then?

I just posted the answer to your question....

Wait. Until. The. Investigation. Is. Complete. Before. Jumping. To. Conclusions.

they been spot on now matter how much in denial folks on here are.. i'll go with the AIDS story as it marries with my narrative about his appearance taking a paradigm shift two years ago; apparently, that is when he stopped taking the HIV medication and put in gods hands..

weirdozmedia said:

babynoz said:

dalsh327 said:

Harvey Levin knows the difference between speculation and fact, and there's going to be people who were close to Prince throughout his life coming out with some things that may or may not be true. It goes with the territory of any brilliant artist who had quirks and eccentricities. He'll still be respected for the work, but the man is going to have sides to him that were complicated that people have held back talking about.

We'll see over time what happens...

It's all very voyeuristic, isn't it?

It saddens me to imagine Tyka and family looking over their shoulders afraid to leave the house or worried about what pics might surface or which opportunist will crawl out from under the next rock because they smell $$. It was bad enough to begin with but TMZ has taken it to the next level because they have deep pockets IMO.

It also puts a bullseye on her and her kids being "worth 850 million dollars", even though the number keeps dropping. The more she says that money's tied up with lawyers and in a trust, the better off she'll be.

dalsh327 said:

babynoz said:

It's all very voyeuristic, isn't it?

It saddens me to imagine Tyka and family looking over their shoulders afraid to leave the house or worried about what pics might surface or which opportunist will crawl out from under the next rock because they smell $$. It was bad enough to begin with but TMZ has taken it to the next level because they have deep pockets IMO.

It also puts a bullseye on her and her kids being "worth 850 million dollars", even though the number keeps dropping. The more she says that money's tied up with lawyers and in a trust, the better off she'll be.

bonatoc said:

babynoz said:

Arunas said:

Choices of cause of death. They don't believe drugs were at cause. I'm asking then- what's left then?

I just posted the answer to your question....

Wait. Until. The. Investigation. Is. Complete. Before. Jumping. To. Conclusions.

Last I checked this is a forum. I want to discuss conclusions and hear what other people think, especialy ones that rule out drugs. Once the investigation is complete and the answers are presented this place will become center of boring and waiting for new material to be announced.

klick2me said:

weirdozmedia said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I would definitely be interested to know about the one in Eden Prairie. The one on W 79th and the one up in Excelsior don't fit the bill, from what I can see. I think, if I'm right, that the pic was taken at an angle, not directly perpendicular to the wall. The wall isn't parallel with the apartment complex behind it (which is what I think that building is in the April 20 pic). So the photographer would have to be at a different spot to get the shot. But in general, it shouldn't be hard to see some of the traits of either building and if they match.

The Walgreens is in Minnetonka: 4950 COUNTY ROAD 101, Minnetonka, MN 55345

If you look on Google Maps, go around to the back of the Walgreens and you can see the "Village Animal Hospital" next door, a brown building with green trim that appears in the background of the Prince pic.

To quote Prince, "This is excellent". Thanks for clearing it all up! 'preesh.

Arunas said:

babynoz said:

I just posted the answer to your question....

Wait. Until. The. Investigation. Is. Complete. Before. Jumping. To. Conclusions.

Last I checked this is a forum. I want to discuss conclusions and hear what other people think, especialy ones that rule out drugs. Once the investigation is complete and the answers are presented this place will become center of boring and waiting for new material to be announced.

It also does not mean that we state our opinions as fact, or that we must all have an opinion in the first place. Furthermore it does not mean we must all agree to patronize one news outlet either.

I don't know what boredom has to do with anything since I'm not looking to be entertained by any of this. Maybe that's the difference?

I'm posting some of the old essays that P used to put on L4OA back in the day. Hopefully reading and reflecting on what he shared will help fill the time spent waiting.

And with that, I'm done with this thread.

TMZ is a bottom feeder that profits off pain. FCK THEM.

Lets let this thread with their name in the subject header DIE.

Lets not give them any SEO - start spelling their name like this:

T$$

Don't directly link to them.


Whoever is talking to them is also a bottom feeding POS.

Lets end their profit off us now.

TMZ has shown Prince no respect. I wish they would just focus on US politics. Trash reporting.

CNN has the DEA on talking to the warrant they executed at PP

babynoz said:

JasminMaria said:

Couldn't agree more.

They are very skilled at manipulating information. They take grains of facts that get fed to them and embellish the stories to make them more salacious. He could very well have taken percs but that is not proof of the headline they plaster for click-bait. For all we know he may have taken a normal dose and had a drink or some tylenol on top of the percs, which would cause a bad reaction and a medical emergency. There's conficting information about whether he was given a save shot too.

For example, they keep implying that P went to Walgreens four times during the same week, making it appear that he was getting multiple percocet prescriptions. Gullible people will just assume that because they got a couple of things right then everything they say is holy writ. A few things they have reported that I haven't seen any evidence of. If somebody knows different post some links please.

1. They keep showing the same photo of P walking toward the SUV. There is no actual video footage of him pacing back and forth in agitation as far as I know? Furthermore if he was in excruciating hip pain and zonked on percs I would think he'd be walking unsteadly or limping at the very least if he got out of the truck at all. Why would he even get out if he was in pain and medicated?

2. P is walking toward the SUV and all you see in the background is a brick wall. Nowhere in the pic does it say Walgreen's.

3. If they know that he went there four times then why is it that we only have one photo instead of four different pictures?

4. There is no way that Walgreens, of all places would fill a perc Rx four times in a week, not even for God, much less Prince. Anybody who follows the news knows that they were in trouble with the feds last year over this issue and had to pay a huuuge fine and are still being monitored.

http://www.wthr.com/story/22916123/2013/07/23/walgreens-pharmacists-now-turning-away-some-customers-who-need-pain-meds

Am I the only one who thinks it's a littile weird for somebody to come here and suggest that we listen only toTMZ reports and take them as gospel? In my experience they get it wrong pretty often but no one ever remembers when they do. It's the same with psychics.

I think the notion that TMZ gets everything right is a myth.

Exactly. I'm with you at all points.

babynoz said:

JasminMaria said:

Couldn't agree more.

They are very skilled at manipulating information. They take grains of facts that get fed to them and embellish the stories to make them more salacious. He could very well have taken percs but that is not proof of the headline they plaster for click-bait. For all we know he may have taken a normal dose and had a drink or some tylenol on top of the percs, which would cause a bad reaction and a medical emergency. There's conficting information about whether he was given a save shot too.

For example, they keep implying that P went to Walgreens four times during the same week, making it appear that he was getting multiple percocet prescriptions. Gullible people will just assume that because they got a couple of things right then everything they say is holy writ. A few things they have reported that I haven't seen any evidence of. If somebody knows different post some links please.

1. They keep showing the same photo of P walking toward the SUV. There is no actual video footage of him pacing back and forth in agitation as far as I know? Furthermore if he was in excruciating hip pain and zonked on percs I would think he'd be walking unsteadly or limping at the very least if he got out of the truck at all. Why would he even get out if he was in pain and medicated?

2. P is walking toward the SUV and all you see in the background is a brick wall. Nowhere in the pic does it say Walgreen's.

3. If they know that he went there four times then why is it that we only have one photo instead of four different pictures?

4. There is no way that Walgreens, of all places would fill a perc Rx four times in a week, not even for God, much less Prince. Anybody who follows the news knows that they were in trouble with the feds last year over this issue and had to pay a huuuge fine and are still being monitored.

http://www.wthr.com/story/22916123/2013/07/23/walgreens-pharmacists-now-turning-away-some-customers-who-need-pain-meds

Am I the only one who thinks it's a littile weird for somebody to come here and suggest that we listen only toTMZ reports and take them as gospel? In my experience they get it wrong pretty often but no one ever remembers when they do. It's the same with psychics.

I think the notion that TMZ gets everything right is a myth.

Exactly. I'm with you at all points.

Exactly. I'm with you at all points.

babynoz said:

JasminMaria said:

Couldn't agree more.

They are very skilled at manipulating information. They take grains of facts that get fed to them and embellish the stories to make them more salacious. He could very well have taken percs but that is not proof of the headline they plaster for click-bait. For all we know he may have taken a normal dose and had a drink or some tylenol on top of the percs, which would cause a bad reaction and a medical emergency. There's conficting information about whether he was given a save shot too.

For example, they keep implying that P went to Walgreens four times during the same week, making it appear that he was getting multiple percocet prescriptions. Gullible people will just assume that because they got a couple of things right then everything they say is holy writ. A few things they have reported that I haven't seen any evidence of. If somebody knows different post some links please.

1. They keep showing the same photo of P walking toward the SUV. There is no actual video footage of him pacing back and forth in agitation as far as I know? Furthermore if he was in excruciating hip pain and zonked on percs I would think he'd be walking unsteadly or limping at the very least if he got out of the truck at all. Why would he even get out if he was in pain and medicated?

2. P is walking toward the SUV and all you see in the background is a brick wall. Nowhere in the pic does it say Walgreen's.

3. If they know that he went there four times then why is it that we only have one photo instead of four different pictures?

4. There is no way that Walgreens, of all places would fill a perc Rx four times in a week, not even for God, much less Prince. Anybody who follows the news knows that they were in trouble with the feds last year over this issue and had to pay a huuuge fine and are still being monitored.

http://www.wthr.com/story/22916123/2013/07/23/walgreens-pharmacists-now-turning-away-some-customers-who-need-pain-meds

Am I the only one who thinks it's a littile weird for somebody to come here and suggest that we listen only toTMZ reports and take them as gospel? In my experience they get it wrong pretty often but no one ever remembers when they do. It's the same with psychics.

I think the notion that TMZ gets everything right is a myth.

For me, the same hutch

Identity said:

JasminMaria said:

TMZ belongs to Warner. Just sayin'.

To clarify, TMZ and WB Records are just two of the many subsidiaries owned by TimeWarner, Inc.

[Edited 4/28/16 10:27am]