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Reply #30 posted 04/27/16 11:33pm

CynicKill

The Miles Davis Sessions?

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Reply #31 posted 04/28/16 12:04am

thetimefan

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Great ideas by Thizz. Personally I would follow a similar pattern to what they have suggested too. I'd re-activate Paisley Park Records as a Follow That Dream type label to collect the unreleased tracks and put out 2/3/4 disc sets of material with the original album, ie for For You, I'd include whatever outtakes existing from that period and include a photo book in the CD sleeve with any unseen photos corresponding to that era too. Linear notes by Alan Leeds and with comments from those who worked with Prince at the time of the recording, so for later recordings - Wendy & Lisa, Dez, Bobby Z, Dr Fink et al. I would also expand and remaster the protege projects - Vanity 6, Apollonia 6, The Time, Mazarati et al too. Any concert(s)/documentary type footage would be digitally remastered and released on DVD/Blu Ray. Paisley Park I'd keep open as a functioning studio so other artists could record there ala Jimi's Electric Ladyland studios. I would also have open days so fans can visit ala Graceland. Plus digital releases of all albums and associated artists albums is a must nowadays so that would be a priority too.
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Reply #32 posted 04/28/16 12:16am

paulludvig

Throw open the gates. If some people or companies want to make compilations and make money from it, I'm ok with that. But everything should be made available.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #33 posted 04/28/16 12:25am

NorthC

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here's the legendary vault :





^ the mask is also seen on the front cover to the Sign "☮" The Times album... cool cool


With a hole drilled in it now. sad
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Reply #34 posted 04/28/16 12:32am

NorthC

I'm sure there's lots of half-finished songs and jam sessions in there that even the biggest fan wouldn't want to sit through for more than once. A 45 minute version of Cloreen Bacon Skin for instance. I would take the songs that are finished and listenable and and put them out in a series of CDs. The Vault vol 1: 1978-1982. The Vault vol. 2: 1982-1985. Etc... And a DVD/bluray series of concerts. These would be for diehard fans only of course. Maybe a 2 or 3 CD compilation for the general public.
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Reply #35 posted 04/28/16 12:33am

paulludvig

My main concern is that everything should be available for research. I wouldn't let former associates into the vault before everything is properly documented.

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Reply #36 posted 04/28/16 12:41am

panpac777

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It's very alarming that they are already breaking into the Vault!Unless they are searching for a WILL! Then that would make sense!Otherwise, "THIEVES ARE IN THE TEMPLE" !
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Reply #37 posted 04/28/16 1:00am

boschino

I would avoid simply digitising and uploading the material only. It deserves to be put into physical context - with background stories of how the recordings were made, by the people who were around at that specific time.

I would love expanded CD re-issues, with extensive linear notes per each re-issue and unseen photos. Get all relevant band members involved, in recollecting stories around the recordings. One or two bonus discs of outtakes relating to that specific album sessions

Release all the cancelled album projects in their own right. This would include Crystal Ball and Camille, in spite of a lot of those songs appearing elsehwere on official releases.

Release at least ONE show per tour on DVD, with additional footage around the recording, or the tour itself. Also add a DVD release of an aftershow (or 2) per tour.

Create an on-line shop where multiple recordings (live and audio) are available for down-loading.

Collate musings/drawings/notes that they they may find and release a large 'scrap-book'.

Chronicle is his entire career in the same way UPTOWN/Per Nielsen did with the Vault book. Make it available on-line as well as a physical book



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Reply #38 posted 04/28/16 1:08am

NorthC

^Excellent plan. nod
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Reply #39 posted 04/28/16 1:30am

paulludvig

boschino said:

I would avoid simply digitising and uploading the material only. It deserves to be put into physical context - with background stories of how the recordings were made, by the people who were around at that specific time.

I would love expanded CD re-issues, with extensive linear notes per each re-issue and unseen photos. Get all relevant band members involved, in recollecting stories around the recordings. One or two bonus discs of outtakes relating to that specific album sessions

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The problem with this is that Prince more often than not recorded on his own, and even when others were involved they were often kept in the dark about Prince's plans and intentions. Band members are important sources for information, but should not be put in charge.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #40 posted 04/28/16 1:31am

TheEnglishGent

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panpac777 said:

It's very alarming that they are already breaking into the Vault!Unless they are searching for a WILL! Then that would make sense!Otherwise, "THIEVES ARE IN THE TEMPLE" !


Where are you getting this from?

RIP sad
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Reply #41 posted 04/28/16 1:34am

jaawwnn

Burn it to the ground.

To hell with his legacy, prince was about living in the moment.

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Reply #42 posted 04/28/16 1:47am

thisisreece

First of all, I would release the Atlanta show, for all the reasons people have said. It's his last ever show, it's got a good mixture of songs that span his career, it was incredible, and it should be a massive success. It should be a testament to his legacy. Plus, he wanted it released. This album would have to be beautifully packaged with maybe a photo document of the piano tour and extensive linear notes.


Dumping all the music on a cloud would be detrimental in my opinion. The packaging and presentation of his work is very important if it's going get the respect it deserves. I sometimes neglect classics such as 'Joy in Repetition' and 'Crystal Ball', because they're on lackluster or not properly presented albums. With that in mind, I would have the all material that could be, properly sequenced into albums (for instance, one album would open with the one-two of Purple Music and Moonbeam Levels). Hopefully Prince has some fully sequenced albums already in the vault. Obviously there's the 80s work, but the rest of his career musn't be neglected. For instance, at the Xenophobia celebrations there was a mention of a 'guitar-rock' album, I wonder if that exists, and what it sound like being made during that period. Imagine if there's more albums/tracks like The War in the vault.

It all depends on what is in the Vault. Nobody knows for sure. I just hope whoever deals with it, handles it with care and the proper respect.

Hundalasiliah!
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Reply #43 posted 04/28/16 1:59am

Lianachan

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I'd get Susan Rogers and maybe one or two more recent equivalents in to go through it all, catalogue it and figure it all out. Then I'd digitise the complete unreleased songs/remixes/videos etc and make them available online on a Prince vault website, either for free or for a small cost per track. Maybe some or all of the concerts, too. Absolutely everything should be digitised and curated, though.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"" ~ Isaac Asimov
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Reply #44 posted 04/28/16 2:04am

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Definitely everything should be digitized. If they have busted the vault open and messed around with the temperature control system it could render some tape(s) unplayable so they need someone there now and really catalog & digitize everything asap. It will be a long, long process is the estimations about the number of songs the Vault does contain but it will be totally rewarding to see how happy the fanbase will be to hear songs like Moonbeam Levels & The Grand Progression (among many others) plus the concerts and everything else in pristine quality.

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Reply #45 posted 04/28/16 3:42am

boschino

paulludvig said:

boschino said:

I would avoid simply digitising and uploading the material only. It deserves to be put into physical context - with background stories of how the recordings were made, by the people who were around at that specific time.

I would love expanded CD re-issues, with extensive linear notes per each re-issue and unseen photos. Get all relevant band members involved, in recollecting stories around the recordings. One or two bonus discs of outtakes relating to that specific album sessions

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The problem with this is that Prince more often than not recorded on his own, and even when others were involved they were often kept in the dark about Prince's plans and intentions. Band members are important sources for information, but should not be put in charge.

I agree with what you say, but the band members can include what they remember in regards to any recordings they were involved with.

I presume all those confidentialty agreements are now null & void, so the best way we can gain an even bigger picture of the man when it came to his art, is to pick the brains of all those that were there at the time.

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Reply #46 posted 04/28/16 9:29am

spitty

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there should be a task force created of music scientists! why not ad people from prince vault, org or uptown magazine - like per nielsen - that studied prince very deeply. i would add alan leeds as supervisor because he's in the business since a long time, was working with great musicians and is a record collector par excellence. prince's ex band members should support the process of putting together future releases of essential unreleased stuff - eric leeds, kirky j, jimmy jam, andre cymone, wendy, lisa,... - experts for any time and working period by the artist.

i'm scared of releases with the need of commercial success... remixes with ugly featurings (will.I.am, justin timberlake,...)

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Reply #47 posted 04/28/16 3:35pm

Thizz

jaawwnn said:

Burn it to the ground.

To hell with his legacy, prince was about living in the moment.

This is by far the most deplorable statements I've ever read on the internet. Truly vapid and vain, bordering on offensive

[Edited 4/28/16 15:38pm]

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Reply #48 posted 04/28/16 4:32pm

Linn4days

What if they drilled that vaultr open, and he had a toy banana that read, "Sike!!!"?

lol lol lol :

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Reply #49 posted 04/28/16 4:35pm

Linn4days

Sheila is not back in Cali....Several band Members and THe Revolution are still in Minneapolis....

Jam ins't there yet.. Nor is Morris...that I know of...

Somebody is listening to the Vault with Tyka and the trustee-Bankers...

Some Engineer....Somebody is hearing this stuff now....

Session musicians have to be paid too...

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Reply #50 posted 04/28/16 4:39pm

revox

#1: Reissue everything that is out of print, as is, no remaster, no update ... Just get it all out there.

#2: Remaster the main albums with all relevant outtakes + 1 representative live DVD.

#3: Issue all the unreleased albums, exactly as they are in the vault.

#4: Issue one after show from every tour. Video + audio.

#5: Issue one final, Prince-mixed version of every unreleased song not previously released in #2 and #3.

#6: Put everything else online.

#7-1,000,000,000: NEVER LET ANYONE COLLABORATE POSTHUMOUSLY WITH PRINCE.



After that, I don't care. smile
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Reply #51 posted 04/28/16 4:55pm

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NorthC said:

thedance said:

here's the legendary vault :





^ the mask is also seen on the front cover to the Sign "☮" The Times album... cool cool


With a hole drilled in it now. sad


I hope they at least tried the codes '1999' and '3121' on that left panel before they brought out the man tools.

Nobody breaks in to someone's music collection a few days after he died. I guess they hoped to find a will in there. Or at least had to rule it out as a possibility before moving on.

Anyway...

I'd re-release all 39 official albums, with a bonus disc on each of unreleased work, either new songs or Prince's versions of songs given to others.

And during this process, release other material ad hoc, and a live disc / video from each tour.

Loads of artists release mega box sets for a single album. Achtung Baby got 10 discs!!! No other artist could drop multiple discs of solid gold for a single album like Prince could.
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Reply #52 posted 04/28/16 5:01pm

PurpleColossus

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thedance said:

here's the legendary vault :


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^ the mask is also seen on the front cover to the Sign "☮" The Times album... cool cool

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Whoa! shocked

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Reply #53 posted 04/28/16 5:32pm

dalsh327

I'd auction off access to the vault. The first time around, highest bidder and a guest get to spend time with the archivist going through audio and video.

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Reply #54 posted 04/28/16 6:07pm

weever

First of all I must make it clear that I would love to hear the follow up to 1999 and other Revolution albums,the Miles Davis collaboration and other talked about rarities,live footage from all tours,backstage footage as much as everyone else,but if Prince wanted it out it would have been released already.Its obvious he didn't care about making as much money as possible or he would have milked his induction and musicology tour for all it was worth with live DVDs of the tour and putting out album when his popularity was high in 2004,instead nothing.I would like to think he left a release schedule or instructions for this material,but maybe he didnt.I'm being selfish wanting access to it.What if you were a artist that created something and for whatever reason never made it public,granted you would be dead but is it right for other people to release it when you chose not to?I don't want to seem like relatives that go rummaging thru a deceased relatives belongings to see what we can make a buck off of.I know this opinion will be in the minority .
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Reply #55 posted 04/28/16 7:44pm

CynicKill

weever said:

First of all I must make it clear that I would love to hear the follow up to 1999 and other Revolution albums,the Miles Davis collaboration and other talked about rarities,live footage from all tours,backstage footage as much as everyone else,but if Prince wanted it out it would have been released already.Its obvious he didn't care about making as much money as possible or he would have milked his induction and musicology tour for all it was worth with live DVDs of the tour and putting out album when his popularity was high in 2004,instead nothing.I would like to think he left a release schedule or instructions for this material,but maybe he didnt.I'm being selfish wanting access to it.What if you were a artist that created something and for whatever reason never made it public,granted you would be dead but is it right for other people to release it when you chose not to?I don't want to seem like relatives that go rummaging thru a deceased relatives belongings to see what we can make a buck off of.I know this opinion will be in the minority .

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I can't help but want to hear it though.

And I might be in the minority as well, but I say better the family then some lawyers and whomever.

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Reply #56 posted 04/28/16 7:57pm

connorhawke

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Setting aside all copyright and distribution legal issues for pure fantasy, here's what I'd want.

A new website, with both corporate and public distribution methods, able to cover EVERY release and reissue in one place.


Announce four series:

1. Reissue series -- Remastered versions of all official releases, including singles. Official album releases include alternate versions of albums and tracks.

2. Live series -- Audio and video releases of each and every tour, including already released

3. Video series -- Music video releases, released and unreleased

4. Vault series -- Period-collated vault contents. Ordered by date of recording.

Have professional archivists involved from day one.


The general public would snap up the first, according to their preference.

The more interested would delve into the others.

They wouldn't have to be all physical releases, of course, but all should be in high quality and no more "buy it now because it might disappear at any second" annoyances of the past twenty years of his career.

"...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb
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Reply #57 posted 04/28/16 8:12pm

CynicKill

Oh and what are these two full length motion pictures that are in the vault?

That was the biggest surprise to me.

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Reply #58 posted 04/30/16 3:49pm

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CynicKill said:

Oh and what are these two full length motion pictures that are in the vault?


That was the biggest surprise to me.





3 chains o'gold(Extended Edition) and the june 1986 detroit birthday show in full.
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Reply #59 posted 04/30/16 3:51pm

CynicKill

I heard he recorded EVERY live performance and those are in there as well.

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