Well he knew and tried to get help...still sad but some how it makes me believe he came to terms with all this maybe that's why he wanted to be left alone. TMZ is talking about it now. They done put the Dr's son's pic up

[Edited 5/4/16 13:02pm]

FunkiestOne said:

So tough to accept that he was only hours from help and that we may have lost out on another 15 or 20 years of Prince being in our world, because just barely missed getting help. So tough to take.

maybe fate is fate. Bruce Lee died at 32, likewise, he almost died about six weeks previously and was told to stop eating cannibis leaves. He went to lie down in a mistresses apt. had a seizure and died. I could have seen bruce completely outgrowing martial arts and becoming a leader of sorts. The way things happen really make no sense sometimes. It's crazy, in my city, you see the most unhealthy, homeless, crazy people wander around and seem to live forever, other people who don't seem to abuse themselves as much just die. Who can make sense of life and death?

nursev said:

Well he knew and tried to get help...still sad but some how it makes me believe he came to terms with all this maybe that's why he wanted to be left alone. TMZ is talking about it now. They done put the Dr's son's pic up

[Edited 5/4/16 13:02pm]

I'll say this, if you aren't feeling well you don't want to be around a million people, you don't want to talk, you don't want to be asked questions, you just want to be left alone. Even if he did have some of his people around, who's to say any of them had enough sense to be any good. People can be pretty useless and stupid sometimes, maybe that's how he felt.

TMZ is dirty as hell...they trynna crucify this guys son.

Harvey Levin gone burn in hell for this....wow he trynna say the Dr's son was a drug dealer I had to turn that shit off!

nursev said:

Harvey Levin gone burn in hell for this....wow he trynna say the Dr's son was a drug dealer I had to turn that shit off!

Oh, no. So the attack is on people that tried to help? Sound like some fishy stuff to me.

Of course everything is painted as a smoking gun right now,

perhaps it's all even true.

But still, we are NOT 100% sure he died of an accidental overdose.

The breadcrumbs lead there for sure,

BUT still, it could have been something else.

AND even if it was an accidental overdose, we aren't talking about someone who was getting high.

We are talking about something entirely different all together.

Opiods build a tolerance, and we have all been reading up.

Doctors should have more sense than to let someone run wild on this stuff.

What a freaking waste.

IF that young man made a flight from Cali help, at least he tried.

i'm not getting the logic of punishing the son, he didn't administer anything did he? Unless that particular doctor/father loaded prince up on percocet to tide him over, then I just don't see how they can blame these guys.

so true... Keith Richards, Mick Jagger..... they are still bopping around.

PeteSilas said:

FunkiestOne said:

So tough to accept that he was only hours from help and that we may have lost out on another 15 or 20 years of Prince being in our world, because just barely missed getting help. So tough to take.

maybe fate is fate. Bruce Lee died at 32, likewise, he almost died about six weeks previously and was told to stop eating cannibis leaves. He went to lie down in a mistresses apt. had a seizure and died. I could have seen bruce completely outgrowing martial arts and becoming a leader of sorts. The way things happen really make no sense sometimes. It's crazy, in my city, you see the most unhealthy, homeless, crazy people wander around and seem to live forever, other people who don't seem to abuse themselves as much just die. Who can make sense of life and death?

RiotPaisley said:

clairew1975 said:

I can't get my head around this story. It says Prince's representatives called Dr Kornfeld the night of April 20 because he was dealing with a 'grave medical emergency'. What I can't grasp is why did they wait until April 20? Why didn't they make the call after the emergency plane landing. Why wait 6 days. If they rang the Dr on the 20th knowing Prince had a 'grave medical emergency' why leave him alone? I don't know what to think but it just doesn't add up.

HIPAA laws would have prevented anyone else from knowing his situation unless he wanted someone to know. From what I understand - they give Narcan just in case. It's possible his people had no idea why he was unresponsive so they gave him the narcan. His people may have been frazzled and didn't even know that's what they gave him. So he gets to the hospital, tells everyone to leave the room- that's his right under HIPAA and only he knows what is going on. However, someone was making arrangements for the Cali Doctor allegedly... So there was at least one person who knew something was going on. I've been wondering what Will Smiths role in this is... Maybe he knew the doctor in Cali and Prince reached out to him?

Source????

It's gonna tear us all up if we continue to speculate about what could have/should have been done to prevent his tragic death. The plane incident after the ATL show was Prince's wake up call. It was truly a gift that he was able to be resuscitated and given a second chance. The fact that this Dr in CA didn't get the call from Prince's camp until the Wednesday night, six days after the OD, tells me that either Prince or his team did not truly recognize the urgency of the situation. If Prince did not wish to stay hospitalized or have staff available 24/7 during this critical period (cuz' we all know if he had wanted it *clap clap* it would’ve been done), who is ultimately responsible?

I think that many of us have always projected super human qualities to Prince. Perhaps he was guilty of this himself. In the end, I'm sorry to say, whatever transpired was his destiny. =(

tahirih said:

PeteSilas said:

nursev said:

Well he knew and tried to get help...still sad but some how it makes me believe he came to terms with all this maybe that's why he wanted to be left alone. TMZ is talking about it now. They done put the Dr's son's pic up

[Edited 5/4/16 13:02pm]

I'll say this, if you aren't feeling well you don't want to be around a million people, you don't want to talk, you don't want to be asked questions, you just want to be left alone. Even if he did have some of his people around, who's to say any of them had enough sense to be any good. People can be pretty useless and stupid sometimes, maybe that's how he felt.

True...maybe he just didnt see the use in having them there...it had come to that point.

hollywooddove said:

Of course everything is painted as a smoking gun right now,

perhaps it's all even true.

But still, we are NOT 100% sure he died of an accidental overdose.

The breadcrumbs lead there for sure,

BUT still, it could have been something else.

AND even if it was an accidental overdose, we aren't talking about someone who was getting high.

We are talking about something entirely different all together.

Opiods build a tolerance, and we have all been reading up.

Doctors should have more sense than to let someone run wild on this stuff.

What a freaking waste.

IF that young man made a flight from Cali help, at least he tried.

True.

But I think we're passed whether or not it was an actual overdose. Most, if not all, are wondering why at this vulnerable stage he was alone. IF, any of this is true, then he wasn't being resistant to help. So I can say I'm perplexed. Someone has a death scare less than a week ago, they're willing to admit they are in over they're head, you take them to the pharmacy to get, whatever, and you leave them in a big azzed building by themselves. Nope, not in the trying to be nice or understanding mode.

nursev said:

SoulAlive said:

This is such a sad,tragic situation. Prince knew he had a problem and made arrangements to finally get help.

indeed....truly sad.

at least we know and can start to movve through the grief. I love him anyway but I needed something to start to add up somewhere.

Tragic, but there is so much in his life to celebrate. I'd wish differently for him as we all would. But this isnt his defining moment, we know now he was responsibly attempting to take care of himself. That shows willingness and I'm glad he tried....

PeteSilas said:

nursev said:

Well he knew and tried to get help...still sad but some how it makes me believe he came to terms with all this maybe that's why he wanted to be left alone. TMZ is talking about it now. They done put the Dr's son's pic up

[Edited 5/4/16 13:02pm]

I'll say this, if you aren't feeling well you don't want to be around a million people, you don't want to talk, you don't want to be asked questions, you just want to be left alone. Even if he did have some of his people around, who's to say any of them had enough sense to be any good. People can be pretty useless and stupid sometimes, maybe that's how he felt.

If someone needs urgent medical attention, and it sound like it was officially the case, then it should not have anything to do with Prince's wishes. Certain things in life should be prioritised and when it comes to medical matters they usually are, in particular if the patient's life is at risk and not well enough to make their own rational decision. He had already gone to hospital and should have had special medical assistance of any sort from that point on. I know it is too late now, but I need to vent my thoughts on this. Prince was a very professional man and put a lot of effort into anything he did, I just wish someone did the same for him when it came to providing the help that he needed so much.

morningsong said:

hollywooddove said:

Of course everything is painted as a smoking gun right now,

perhaps it's all even true.

But still, we are NOT 100% sure he died of an accidental overdose.

The breadcrumbs lead there for sure,

BUT still, it could have been something else.

AND even if it was an accidental overdose, we aren't talking about someone who was getting high.

We are talking about something entirely different all together.

Opiods build a tolerance, and we have all been reading up.

Doctors should have more sense than to let someone run wild on this stuff.

What a freaking waste.

IF that young man made a flight from Cali help, at least he tried.

True.

But I think we're passed whether or not it was an actual overdose. Most, if not all, are wondering why at this vulnerable stage he was alone. IF, any of this is true, then he wasn't being resistant to help. So I can say I'm perplexed. Someone has a death scare less than a week ago, they're willing to admit they are in over they're head, you take them to the pharmacy to get, whatever, and you leave them in a big azzed building by themselves. Nope, not in the trying to be nice or understanding mode.

i'll put it this way, in an emergency situation, not everyone needs to be around, some people need to just get away. plenty of people just panic, just do useless things in those situations that hurt more than help. The fact is, lots of people just have no common sense these days. Pressure hits and they fold, you don't need that around you in a clutch. Prince probably knew the people who would have been around were useless, he was not stupid.

terrig said:

nursev said:

indeed....truly sad.

at least we know and can start to movve through the grief. I love him anyway but I needed something to start to add up somewhere.

Tragic, but there is so much in his life to celebrate. I'd wish differently for him as we all would. But this isnt his defining moment, we know now he was responsibly attempting to take care of himself. That shows willingness and I'm glad he tried....

Kinda makes you wonder how he felt when MJ and Whitney died....he said he was close to it...and he was I hope he is at peace now...no more pain

PeteSilas said:

PeteSilas said:

RiotPaisley said:

clairew1975 said: HIPAA laws would have prevented anyone else from knowing his situation unless he wanted someone to know. From what I understand - they give Narcan just in case. It's possible his people had no idea why he was unresponsive so they gave him the narcan. His people may have been frazzled and didn't even know that's what they gave him. So he gets to the hospital, tells everyone to leave the room- that's his right under HIPAA and only he knows what is going on. However, someone was making arrangements for the Cali Doctor allegedly... So there was at least one person who knew something was going on. I've been wondering what Will Smiths role in this is... Maybe he knew the doctor in Cali and Prince reached out to him?

"rights" are a joke really, I hate hospitals too and would rather just die than be stuck in one. You have no privacy in a hospital and who feels like telling people to back up every two seconds? I say this as a guy who watched two loved ones die while I was too beat down to ask for privacy.

Nah.. this actually sounds like a whole lot of BS to me...... or an ad for the treatment center. There was NO NEED for this public statement by the Drs. attorney. Regardless of the article or not. If they are a repubable place, there is no need for this dog and pony show. I am certainly not blaming anyone, but they were quick to release this info as soon as they thought their "public perception" would be tarnished. Perhaps if the good Dr's son took a dang Uber like everyone else in the world, Prince would not have been alone... GIVE ME A BREAK. Everyone leave to go pick up a Dr? PLEASE ... something else went down and everyone knows it. I wonder if they called the scripts in for Prince at that Walgreens adn they are playing CYA.... something stinks with this story..

morningsong said:

hollywooddove said:

Of course everything is painted as a smoking gun right now,

perhaps it's all even true.

But still, we are NOT 100% sure he died of an accidental overdose.

The breadcrumbs lead there for sure,

BUT still, it could have been something else.

AND even if it was an accidental overdose, we aren't talking about someone who was getting high.

We are talking about something entirely different all together.

Opiods build a tolerance, and we have all been reading up.

Doctors should have more sense than to let someone run wild on this stuff.

What a freaking waste.

IF that young man made a flight from Cali help, at least he tried.

True.

But I think we're passed whether or not it was an actual overdose. Most, if not all, are wondering why at this vulnerable stage he was alone. IF, any of this is true, then he wasn't being resistant to help. So I can say I'm perplexed. Someone has a death scare less than a week ago, they're willing to admit they are in over they're head, you take them to the pharmacy to get, whatever, and you leave them in a big azzed building by themselves. Nope, not in the trying to be nice or understanding mode.

I'm trying not to go into blaming mode, but I'm so sad and so so angry....

terrig said:

morningsong said:

True.

But I think we're passed whether or not it was an actual overdose. Most, if not all, are wondering why at this vulnerable stage he was alone. IF, any of this is true, then he wasn't being resistant to help. So I can say I'm perplexed. Someone has a death scare less than a week ago, they're willing to admit they are in over they're head, you take them to the pharmacy to get, whatever, and you leave them in a big azzed building by themselves. Nope, not in the trying to be nice or understanding mode.

I'm trying not to go into blaming mode, but I'm so sad and so so angry....

I can respect that.

CherryMoon57 said:

PeteSilas said:

I'll say this, if you aren't feeling well you don't want to be around a million people, you don't want to talk, you don't want to be asked questions, you just want to be left alone. Even if he did have some of his people around, who's to say any of them had enough sense to be any good. People can be pretty useless and stupid sometimes, maybe that's how he felt.

If someone needs urgent medical attention, and it sound like it was officially the case, then it should not have anything to do with Prince's wishes. Certain things in life should be prioritised and when it comes to medical matters they usually are, in particular if the patient's life is at risk and not well enough to make their own rational decision. He had already gone to hospital and should have had special medical assistance of any sort from that point on. I know it is too late now, but I need to vent my thoughts on this. Prince was a very professional man and put a lot of effort into anything he did, I just wish someone did the same for him when it came to providing the help that he needed so much.

I understand that but we aren't talking about joe blow, we are talking about someone who's worst nightmare/fate worse than death would be in a hospital, sick, helpless, paparazzie sneaking by to take pictures, people calling him off the hook. Also, who in the hell would order a hospitalization to a man like Prince? Did he have any family who could institutionalize him legally? Any one appointed in that capacity? I'd say we have to blame some of this on the toxicity and nastiness of our society.

morningsong said:

hollywooddove said:

Of course everything is painted as a smoking gun right now,

perhaps it's all even true.

But still, we are NOT 100% sure he died of an accidental overdose.

The breadcrumbs lead there for sure,

BUT still, it could have been something else.

AND even if it was an accidental overdose, we aren't talking about someone who was getting high.

We are talking about something entirely different all together.

Opiods build a tolerance, and we have all been reading up.

Doctors should have more sense than to let someone run wild on this stuff.

What a freaking waste.

IF that young man made a flight from Cali help, at least he tried.

True.

But I think we're passed whether or not it was an actual overdose. Most, if not all, are wondering why at this vulnerable stage he was alone. IF, any of this is true, then he wasn't being resistant to help. So I can say I'm perplexed. Someone has a death scare less than a week ago, they're willing to admit they are in over they're head, you take them to the pharmacy to get, whatever, and you leave them in a big azzed building by themselves. Nope, not in the trying to be nice or understanding mode.

I hope to God we never find out who drove him there...

terrig said:

morningsong said:

True.

But I think we're passed whether or not it was an actual overdose. Most, if not all, are wondering why at this vulnerable stage he was alone. IF, any of this is true, then he wasn't being resistant to help. So I can say I'm perplexed. Someone has a death scare less than a week ago, they're willing to admit they are in over they're head, you take them to the pharmacy to get, whatever, and you leave them in a big azzed building by themselves. Nope, not in the trying to be nice or understanding mode.

I'm trying not to go into blaming mode, but I'm so sad and so so angry....

terrig said:

morningsong said:

True.

But I think we're passed whether or not it was an actual overdose. Most, if not all, are wondering why at this vulnerable stage he was alone. IF, any of this is true, then he wasn't being resistant to help. So I can say I'm perplexed. Someone has a death scare less than a week ago, they're willing to admit they are in over they're head, you take them to the pharmacy to get, whatever, and you leave them in a big azzed building by themselves. Nope, not in the trying to be nice or understanding mode.

I'm trying not to go into blaming mode, but I'm so sad and so so angry....

I'm in GIVE US REAL ANSWERS MODE as well Terrig. Someone knows what happened.

JenniferJoy said:

It's gonna tear us all up if we continue to speculate about what could have/should have been done to prevent his tragic death. The plane incident after the ATL show was Prince's wake up call. It was truly a gift that he was able to be resuscitated and given a second chance. The fact that this Dr in CA didn't get the call from Prince's camp until the Wednesday night, six days after the OD, tells me that either Prince or his team did not truly recognize the urgency of the situation. If Prince did not wish to stay hospitalized or have staff available 24/7 during this critical period (cuz' we all know if he had wanted it *clap clap* it would’ve been done), who is ultimately responsible?

I think that many of us have always projected super human qualities to Prince. Perhaps he was guilty of this himself. In the end, I'm sorry to say, whatever transpired was his destiny. =(

a lot of it has to do with his always being alone really. He really didn't have much in the way of supportive family, ever. Kicked out on the streets, abandoned. Much like James Brown, it made him supercompetent and incredibly successful and built their characters, they also didn't know how to do things any other way. When you see human beings as unreliable to begin with, you aren't real eager to be at their mercy. I see it as a situation where he was between the devil and the deep blue sea. at least at this point, barring more info.