Avoid these lies. The papers say they may not know for weeks how he died. He didn't die by the way. He will always live. I'm pretending he never died.

PatrickS77 said:

nursev said:

I just hope some of the Nelson's are on duty to keep folks from trying to take pics of his body. I wouldnt be able to get pass that. I do not want to them to disrepect Prince like that.

Well. Tell that to the user "unique". He was quite happy posting MJ deathpics countless times, with no regards for anyone. Funny (and shocking) how quickly the tables can turn and Prince fans are facing the same tragedy.

I do remember that and it was a tragedy. I was saddened to see another human disrespect a person like that and I hope that we've learned from that and dont let it happen again.

2freaky4church1 said:

Avoid these lies. The papers say they may not know for weeks how he died. He didn't die by the way. He will always live. I'm pretending he never died.

They are not saying how he died. They are stating facts about last week.

But I'm glad he will always live on with you.

nursev said:

Trickology said:

4everyours said:

Just to provide some extensively trained medical perspective here, but of course without knowing all of the specifics of this case. However, this whole thing doesn't sound right. Percocet is an oral agent and if he left ATL pretty soon after the end of the concert, he would had had to taken the whole freaking bottle, or at least quite a bit to have had such an effect on him. But, also, when a patient comes to the ED and one of their issues is a decreased level of consciousness and they may have taken even the prescribed amount of pain meds like this, it is very common to give them a dose of Narcan, reversal agent, just to see if that helps "wake them up". It has no real side effects so it is used very commonly just to see if it helps with the situation. But there are other reasons someone might be weak and/or have a decreased level of consciousness. Furthermore, in regards to his ultimate death, can't believe I am even having to write that, ugh, again, if someone does OD on narcotics, they die from respiratory suppression which then builds up carbon dioxide in our blood which then results in respiratory arrest and death. So, that is why people who die like that are usually in bed or some kind of sedentary place. But to die in an elevator seems to me like what we call "sudden death" which is usually more related to cardiac arrhythmias, pulmonary embolus (blood clot in lung), or heart attack. But narcotic OD in someone able to go to the elevator just doesn't pass my sniff test. Now, maybe he was taking these meds and then had been taking a bunch of over the counter stuff and some weird cross reaction occurred which caused a fatal heart arrhythmia, but pure OD, not on board with that. Now, as a fan who is truly devastated and heart broken over all of this, I have to say, WTF? I want to know who the dipshits were that were at PP and when did they get there or where they there all night, etc. ? And if he had been sick, then why in the fuck are they leaving him alone? Ok, that is my grief stricken fan rant!! But the other stuff above, I hope this stuff I wrote was clear and maybe helps someone have a better perspective on things.

Im going to say something you probably won't agree with. It is HIGHLY LIKELY HIGHLY PROBABLE that Prince was addicted to Percocet. The sole reason being his alleged medical issue regarding his hip surgery. If the pain was that bad, you are DAMN RIGHT he would seek whatever to numb that pain. He probably did take a high dose of it because he wanted the pain to go away.

Many people on here and other forums have said countless times, Prince was facing torturous pain due to this hip issue and people just shrugged it off "Tee hee hee he's spritely, he's never been better"

I think it is very likely Prince likely had to deal with the last 5 years with a increasingly high dose of pain medication. He was just coping, like we all would be if we were in his shoes.

4everyours said:

Trickology said:

Im going to say something you probably won't agree with. It is HIGHLY LIKELY HIGHLY PROBABLE that Prince was addicted to Percocet. The sole reason being his alleged medical issue regarding his hip surgery. If the pain was that bad, you are DAMN RIGHT he would seek whatever to numb that pain. He probably did take a high dose of it because he wanted the pain to go away.

Many people on here and other forums have said countless times, Prince was facing torturous pain due to this hip issue and people just shrugged it off "Tee hee hee he's spritely, he's never been better"

I think it is very likely Prince likely had to deal with the last 5 years with a increasingly high dose of pain medication. He was just coping, like we all would be if we were in his shoes.

You are missing my point. Regardless of his possible need for Percocet due to hip pain, people who die from narcotic ODs are again, usually found in bed or some kind of sedentary position because, AGAIN, death comes from respiratory depression which results in resp arrest. Plus, this is all preceded by sedation. So, this does not follow the pattern of someone in an elevator as that indicates sudden death, not a prolonged process of resp suppression and the arrest. Unless this happened in bed and someone drug him to the elevator, dropped off in it and left him. So, I have no idea whether or not he had a pain medication dependence, I am just saying this does not sound like a death from narcotic OD.

I don't beleive anyone here is claiming they think they know how or why he died.

JustErin said:

4everyours said:

You are missing my point. Regardless of his possible need for Percocet due to hip pain, people who die from narcotic ODs are again, usually found in bed or some kind of sedentary position because, AGAIN, death comes from respiratory depression which results in resp arrest. Plus, this is all preceded by sedation. So, this does not follow the pattern of someone in an elevator as that indicates sudden death, not a prolonged process of resp suppression and the arrest. Unless this happened in bed and someone drug him to the elevator, dropped off in it and left him. So, I have no idea whether or not he had a pain medication dependence, I am just saying this does not sound like a death from narcotic OD.

I don't beleive anyone here is claiming they think they know how or why he died.

Wait and see. Due to his hip trouble I'd say painkillers are not off the table. Wouldn't diminish his life nor legacy one way or another.

[Edited 4/22/16 18:16pm]

4everyours said:

Just to provide some extensively trained medical perspective here, but of course without knowing all of the specifics of this case. However, this whole thing doesn't sound right. Percocet is an oral agent and if he left ATL pretty soon after the end of the concert, he would had had to taken the whole freaking bottle, or at least quite a bit to have had such an effect on him. But, also, when a patient comes to the ED and one of their issues is a decreased level of consciousness and they may have taken even the prescribed amount of pain meds like this, it is very common to give them a dose of Narcan, reversal agent, just to see if that helps "wake them up". It has no real side effects so it is used very commonly just to see if it helps with the situation. But there are other reasons someone might be weak and/or have a decreased level of consciousness. Furthermore, in regards to his ultimate death, can't believe I am even having to write that, ugh, again, if someone does OD on narcotics, they die from respiratory suppression which then builds up carbon dioxide in our blood which then results in respiratory arrest and death. So, that is why people who die like that are usually in bed or some kind of sedentary place. But to die in an elevator seems to me like what we call "sudden death" which is usually more related to cardiac arrhythmias, pulmonary embolus (blood clot in lung), or heart attack. But narcotic OD in someone able to go to the elevator just doesn't pass my sniff test. Now, maybe he was taking these meds and then had been taking a bunch of over the counter stuff and some weird cross reaction occurred which caused a fatal heart arrhythmia, but pure OD, not on board with that. Now, as a fan who is truly devastated and heart broken over all of this, I have to say, WTF? I want to know who the dipshits were that were at PP and when did they get there or where they there all night, etc. ? And if he had been sick, then why in the fuck are they leaving him alone? Ok, that is my grief stricken fan rant!! But the other stuff above, I hope this stuff I wrote was clear and maybe helps someone have a better perspective on things.

Thank you so much for your insight and the bolded part is what's breaking my heart too.

GottaLetitgo said:

Scavengers, parasites. No disrespect to MJ and Whitney but I don't think this was on that level whatever it was. They want to make the tie-in so bad, that Harvey Levin who runs TMZ is insufferable. Fox News was eating it up and Harvey kept saying things like he wanted to make sure all of his sources were good but he kept dropping nasty hints, saying but not saying. I think it is sad if even a little bit of what they are saying is true but they are castign so many aspersions...just trying to see what will stick.

The ONLY good thing TMZ has done so far is call out Justin Beiber for making a stupid comment by tweet that disrespected Prince, whether intentional or not. Just when I was actually starting to enjoy JB's music again...

I totally agree. I feel like the "drug overdose" label sells and they're looking for a reason. Totally tasteless.

4everyours said:

This is why TMZ is among the worst of what social media and technology has produced in our society. Young, inexperienced, disrespectful excuses for professionals that form their existence on corrupted morality and exploitation. The people of color associated with it are the gross stereotypical caricatures that are used as willing Uncle Toms providing shields from the exploitative and cleverly disguised racial insensitivity it passes off as journalism. The images and messages that is pollutes the media are detrimental to the visage of African Americans. The homosexual agenda that it promotes is so stilted and distroted with mutated cultural bias that it makes them illegitimate for either side of the debate. They are simpy indoctrinating young people with a blatant and wreckles abandon - and the most harrowing thing is that no one calls them on it.

They are not worthy of having the name of Prince come out of their mouths and they are proving it.

PatrickS77 said:

nursev said:

I just hope some of the Nelson's are on duty to keep folks from trying to take pics of his body. I wouldnt be able to get pass that. I do not want to them to disrepect Prince like that.

Well. Tell that to the user "unique". He was quite happy posting MJ deathpics countless times, with no regards for anyone. Funny (and shocking) how quickly the tables can turn and Prince fans are facing the same tragedy.

I hurt back then too. I'm revisiting it all over again and It's bloody horrible. Again.

babynoz said:

4everyours said:

Just to provide some extensively trained medical perspective here, but of course without knowing all of the specifics of this case. However, this whole thing doesn't sound right. Percocet is an oral agent and if he left ATL pretty soon after the end of the concert, he would had had to taken the whole freaking bottle, or at least quite a bit to have had such an effect on him. But, also, when a patient comes to the ED and one of their issues is a decreased level of consciousness and they may have taken even the prescribed amount of pain meds like this, it is very common to give them a dose of Narcan, reversal agent, just to see if that helps "wake them up". It has no real side effects so it is used very commonly just to see if it helps with the situation. But there are other reasons someone might be weak and/or have a decreased level of consciousness. Furthermore, in regards to his ultimate death, can't believe I am even having to write that, ugh, again, if someone does OD on narcotics, they die from respiratory suppression which then builds up carbon dioxide in our blood which then results in respiratory arrest and death. So, that is why people who die like that are usually in bed or some kind of sedentary place. But to die in an elevator seems to me like what we call "sudden death" which is usually more related to cardiac arrhythmias, pulmonary embolus (blood clot in lung), or heart attack. But narcotic OD in someone able to go to the elevator just doesn't pass my sniff test. Now, maybe he was taking these meds and then had been taking a bunch of over the counter stuff and some weird cross reaction occurred which caused a fatal heart arrhythmia, but pure OD, not on board with that. Now, as a fan who is truly devastated and heart broken over all of this, I have to say, WTF? I want to know who the dipshits were that were at PP and when did they get there or where they there all night, etc. ? And if he had been sick, then why in the fuck are they leaving him alone? Ok, that is my grief stricken fan rant!! But the other stuff above, I hope this stuff I wrote was clear and maybe helps someone have a better perspective on things.

Thank you so much for your insight and the bolded part is what's breaking my heart too.

me too

4everyours said:

Just to provide some extensively trained medical perspective here, but of course without knowing all of the specifics of this case. However, this whole thing doesn't sound right. Percocet is an oral agent and if he left ATL pretty soon after the end of the concert, he would had had to taken the whole freaking bottle, or at least quite a bit to have had such an effect on him. But, also, when a patient comes to the ED and one of their issues is a decreased level of consciousness and they may have taken even the prescribed amount of pain meds like this, it is very common to give them a dose of Narcan, reversal agent, just to see if that helps "wake them up". It has no real side effects so it is used very commonly just to see if it helps with the situation. But there are other reasons someone might be weak and/or have a decreased level of consciousness. Furthermore, in regards to his ultimate death, can't believe I am even having to write that, ugh, again, if someone does OD on narcotics, they die from respiratory suppression which then builds up carbon dioxide in our blood which then results in respiratory arrest and death. So, that is why people who die like that are usually in bed or some kind of sedentary place. But to die in an elevator seems to me like what we call "sudden death" which is usually more related to cardiac arrhythmias, pulmonary embolus (blood clot in lung), or heart attack. But narcotic OD in someone able to go to the elevator just doesn't pass my sniff test. Now, maybe he was taking these meds and then had been taking a bunch of over the counter stuff and some weird cross reaction occurred which caused a fatal heart arrhythmia, but pure OD, not on board with that. Now, as a fan who is truly devastated and heart broken over all of this, I have to say, WTF? I want to know who the dipshits were that were at PP and when did they get there or where they there all night, etc. ? And if he had been sick, then why in the fuck are they leaving him alone? Ok, that is my grief stricken fan rant!! But the other stuff above, I hope this stuff I wrote was clear and maybe helps someone have a better perspective on things.

The first sentence invalidates the entire post for me.

lrn36 said:

This is supposedly the last picture of Prince leaving a pharmacy the day before he passed.

Seeing the pics of him going to Walgreen's kinda makes sense now. I wondered why he would be going to Walgreen's himself and not just sending somebody else to do it, but if he had a pill habit they would've seen it and possibly gossiped about it. (Pharmacists are bound by law to keep your prescriptions private, but a hired errand runner isn't.)

SoulAlive said:

This story is eerily similiar to Michael Jackson's death

I'd have to disagree. MJ paid Conrad Murray to do whatever the hell he (MJ) wanted. MJ said he just wanted to sleep, and had it in his head that Propofol was the way to do that. We all know now that no anesthesia gives you rest or REM sleep. It simply puts you unconscious. MJ was addicted to prescription drugs since that Pepsi commercial accident in 1983 or so (or '84?). The addiction got worse and worse, and multiple interventions took place. I mean, MJ even called Propofol his "milk". This is a grown man, acting like a baby, with pee pads on his bed, under anesthesia for the sake of sleeping.

While having experimented with X, and drinking a bit more than normal in the mid-late 90s, Prince has never been in that state. He's never had a personal doctor that just administers drugs like that, at will (especially something as potent as Propofol. Nor has he had a seriously crippling drug addiction like MJ did. Frankly, I blame some, not all, of it on his JW beliefs. While they aren't necessarily against doctors, they do have certain objections aspects of medical care that can be debilitating to the patient.

As much as I love MJ, and miss him terribly, I'll still call a spade a spade. I do think the Percocet story with Prince might have some legs to it though. I mean, the toxicology report will put my assumtpions, and everyone else's, to rest very soon. Six weeks is roughly his birthday. Wouldn't that be a trip, to have the report come out on his birthday?

TrivialPursuit said:

At his age and years of wear and tear on his body, it's hard to say what was going on with him, but doing a show where he was going to be sitting down for most of the show, he probably wasn't going to let ALLEGED physical problems get in the way of performing.

I'm sure he didn't want anyone worrying about him.

SoulAlive said:

It saddens me to say this,but I think the TMZ story is probably truthful Prince's camp said he had a flu,but it appears that there was so much more going on here

SoulAlive said:

This story is eerily similiar to Michael Jackson's death

TrivialPursuit said:

keenly said:

keenly said:

I hate big Pharma.

Just as my own theory, and applying the 80/20 rule, I've long said that I personally believe 80% of the population isn't sick. They just think they are. We are inundated with drug ads on television (yet a cigarette ad is somehow worse - and no, I have never smoked in my life), and it's almost a brainwashing. "If your toenail is slightly thick and it needs to be trimmed, ask your doctor about NailEz. Side effects might include looking like a douche, being a whiny bitch, self-indulgence, and joy at the sound of your own voice at parties meant for other people".

Sometimes I think it's en vogue to have allergies, or have this ailment, or that condition. I've seen people sit down together and compare medications they've been prescribed, or see who can better the other with diagnoses. It's almost like some club everyone wants to be in, just to belong to something.

I just wanna grab people by the shirt collar, and tell them "You're not sick, you're bored. Turn off your goddamn computer, and go take a walk. Choose a vegetable instead of slab of ham slathered in brown sugar and death." I'm no vegetarian, but I do try to, at least, go with the rule of covering your plate with 2/3 vegetables, and 1/3 meat; just to kind of watch what I eat. Big pharma has made people think they need a pill for every single thing wrong with them, when most times peopel are just babies.

Sure, there are real conditions that people suffer from that might need some help. But I'm almost 50, and have yet to ever have a prescription for anything, other than some ear drops when I was a freshman in high school.

The power of suggestion is strong with this one.

Genesia said:

keenly said:

I hate big Pharma.

Yeah! What do we need pain medication for? People should just tough that shit out.

Prince is dead because of pain meds.

CANNABIS is the answer.

lrn36 said:

This is supposedly the last picture of Prince leaving a pharmacy the day before he passed.

I would hate to be a famous person.A routine trip to Walgreens would be recorded on someone's cellphone camera That would drive me crazy.

TMZ reported that he was pacing,sweating and walking back and forth,implying that he was a druggie who was anxious for his "fix",smh.